I left a message on another thread about this, after being told off by Mr R Hinge for viewing this newsgroup via Garden Banter. Please could someone tell me how to access urg? I've tried Googling it, but altho I get a home page it won't let me proceed. MY ISP is aol - don't know whether that's a problem.
P.S. I found Garden Banter by accident and am wondering why it is so infra dig. The posts from other parts of the world are often informative and sometimes very amusing.

Here I am, replying to myself. I've tried twice to get a response to this. Please don't tick me off or write snotty comments when I mention something I've seen elsewhere on GardenBanter if none of you urglers is prepared to give me guidance on how to access urg other than via GB.

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Janet Conroy;823492 Wrote:
I left a message on another thread about this, after being told off by
Mr R Hinge for viewing this newsgroup via Garden Banter. Please could
someone tell me how to access urg? I've tried Googling it, but altho I
get a home page it won't let me proceed. MY ISP is aol - don't know
whether that's a problem.
P.S. I found Garden Banter by accident and am wondering why it is so
infra dig. The posts from other parts of the world are often
informative and sometimes very amusing.

Here I am, replying to myself. I've tried twice to get a response to
this. Please don't tick me off or write snotty comments when I mention
something I've seen elsewhere on GardenBanter if none of you urglers is
prepared to give me guidance on how to access urg other than via GB.





You need a news reader, normally a computer will come with one as part of
the email package, go to tools accounts and look under the "News" tag,
however some of the free to use readers are better at getting rid of spam
messages I use MicroPlanet Gravity which was a free down load.
Then you need to subscribe to the newsgroup, UK rec gardening in this
case. again your ISP may have this listed and you can subscribe for free
or you can buy annual subscription from outfits like News.Individual.


--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

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from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

again your ISP may have this listed and you can subscribe for free
or you can buy annual subscription from outfits like News.Individual.

Nope - not AOL any longer.

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Rusty
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from Martin contains these words:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:23:43 GMT, Rusty_Hinge

wrote:

The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

again your ISP may have this listed and you can subscribe for free
or you can buy annual subscription from outfits like News.Individual.

Nope - not AOL any longer.

Why can't an AOL subscriber buy a subscription from news.individual.net ?

I was referring to the 'your ISP', but I have a sort-of dim memory of
someone complaining that they couldn't get access to Usenet through AOL.

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Rusty
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On Nov 26, 9:42*pm, Janet Conroy Janet.Conroy.
wrote:
Janet Conroy;823492 Wrote:

I left a message on another thread about this, after being told off by
Mr R Hinge for viewing this newsgroup via Garden Banter. *Please could
someone tell me how to access urg? *I've tried Googling it, but altho I
get a home page it won't let me proceed. *MY ISP is aol - don't know
whether that's a problem.

AOL is a problem but I doubt it is preventing you using Google groups.

P.S. I found Garden Banter by accident and am wondering why it is so
infra dig. *The posts from other parts of the world are often
informative and sometimes very amusing.

Here I am, replying to myself. *I've tried twice to get a response to
this. *Please don't tick me off or write snotty comments when I mention
something I've seen elsewhere on GardenBanter if none of you urglers is
prepared to give me guidance on how to access urg other than via GB.

GardenBanter effectively steals the discussions taking place on a pre-
existing Usenet group
uk.rec.gardening
Some people find this incredibly annoying and take it out on posters
from GB whose content is reflected onto Usenet.

You should be able to access urg via Google groups even if you don't
have a proper newsreader.

http://groups.google.com/
and specific for urg.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.gardening/topics
or this particular thread
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.re...6c49e93ebe662#

Google groups is also a bit infra-dig but it is useful when you are
mobile and not at a machine that has direct Usenet news access.
Increasingly ISPs are pulling Usenet servers offline as not cost
effective (ie profitable).

Regards,
Martin Brown

Thank you for both replies. I will have a go.

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from Martin Brown contains these words:

Google groups is also a bit infra-dig but it is useful when you are
mobile and not at a machine that has direct Usenet news access.
Increasingly ISPs are pulling Usenet servers offline as not cost
effective (ie profitable).

Since the Zetgods use Usenet, I am reliably informed that as long it
remains under the same management/ownership, the news server is secure,
if not sacred.

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Rusty
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Janet Conroy writes

Janet Conroy;823492 Wrote:
I left a message on another thread about this, after being told off
by
Mr R Hinge for viewing this newsgroup via Garden Banter. Please
could
someone tell me how to access urg? I've tried Googling it, but altho
I
get a home page it won't let me proceed. MY ISP is aol - don't know
whether that's a problem.
P.S. I found Garden Banter by accident and am wondering why it is so
infra dig.

I don't like gardenbanter because it is enhancing (1) its own reputation
by using stuff I've posted to urg without asking my permission.
(1) matter of opinion, of course. It might well be better off without my
posts!

The posts from other parts of the world are often
informative and sometimes very amusing.

There are newsgroups from all over the world accessible with a
newsreader - including all the newsgroups you see on gardenbanter!

Here I am, replying to myself. I've tried twice to get a response to
this. Please don't tick me off or write snotty comments when I mention
something I've seen elsewhere on GardenBanter if none of you urglers is
prepared to give me guidance on how to access urg other than via GB.

There's no problem with your continuing to access urg via gardenbanter
if you can cope with the inconvenience, but just remember that accessing
urg is what you are doing, and that most of us don't use gardenbanter,
so when you talk about things elsewhere on the gardenbanter site it
means nothing to us.



--
Kay

Janet Conroy wrote:

Here I am, replying to myself. I've tried twice to get a response to
this. Please don't tick me off or write snotty comments when I mention
something I've seen elsewhere on GardenBanter if none of you urglers is
prepared to give me guidance on how to access urg other than via GB.

As others have said, you need to be able to use a newsreader. I have
just followed the instructions he-
http://news.aioe.org/spip.php?article77
to set up a (free) account with nntp.aioe.org - you do not have to
register with them at all.

I then downloaded their group list, found uk.rec.gardening and posted
this reply. Took about 10-15 minutes.
If you don't have Thunderbird (a free email and news client), you could
download it, or alternatively set up Outlook Express (which I suspect
already lurks on your machine) but I have no information on how to use
that program.

Good to see someone wanting to get away from the webpage stuff - good luck.

On 27 Nov, 12:06, geo wrote:
or alternatively set up Outlook Express (which I suspect
already lurks on your machine) but I have no information on how to use
that program.

If you want to use OE, go and find OE quotefix, and wrap it roundf
OE. It fixes the top-posting behaviour and also sorts out some other
shortcomings.

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

Janet Conroy wrote:

Here I am, replying to myself. I've tried twice to get a response to
this. Please don't tick me off or write snotty comments when I mention
something I've seen elsewhere on GardenBanter if none of you urglers is
prepared to give me guidance on how to access urg other than via GB.

As others have said, you need to be able to use a newsreader. I have
just followed the instructions he-
http://news.aioe.org/spip.php?article77
to set up a (free) account with nntp.aioe.org - you do not have to
register with them at all.

I then downloaded their group list, found uk.rec.gardening and posted
this reply. Took about 10-15 minutes.
If you don't have Thunderbird (a free email and news client), you could
download it, or alternatively set up Outlook Express (which I suspect
already lurks on your machine) but I have no information on how to use
that program.

Good to see someone wanting to get away from the webpage stuff - good luck.

Sorry that arrived multiple times - the first post via nntp.aioe.org did not
appear to get out so I repeated the exercise with a second free news server.
Anyway - the point is it only takes a few minutes to do...

Geo

Using news groups is ok IF it's only one or two of them, if, as I do, you subscribe to quite a lot then it becomes almost a full time occupation to read all of the posts. Since in most cases only about 40% of posts have any interest to anyone person, the time, effort and trouble becomes too much and the whole thing implodes. Most of the sites I receive in digest form via 2 or 3 emails a day which means I can at least pick out the posts of interest to me from the digest headers. The beauty of garden banter is that the forum layout enables me to see at a glance what is new, what interests me, and above all I don't have to wade through yards of quotes from the start of the thread trying to find the one line reply buried in there somewhere, in a forum you don't need to use quotes to show what you are talking about as the thread has a title that tells you. /rant. :-)

Blimey - I seem to have gone from no response to a deluge in an instant. I was OK with the first couple of replies but now I'm blinded by all the techy stuff. I will try to do the newsgroup thing, but I'm still unclear as to why GardenBanter is so hated by some posters. Is it because you have paid some cash to access a kosher newsgroup?