...... ""recession"" hit you or is it all media hype?

Do you know anybody who has been hit by this ""recession""? HOW?



Mike

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'Mike' wrote:

..... ""recession"" hit you or is it all media hype?

Do you know anybody who has been hit by this ""recession""? HOW?



Mike


Can't sell our house at the moment - which I count as 'hit'.

Told by employers that due to the current economic climate there will be no
bonuses, pay rises, training, travel to any meetings which are not directly
revenue generating, long service awards etc. etc.

Yep - that feels like 'hit' to me.

Always assuming that the compulsory redundancies don't come my way.....

David W EEE Roberts wrote:
'Mike' wrote:

..... ""recession"" hit you or is it all media hype?

Do you know anybody who has been hit by this ""recession""? HOW?



Mike


Can't sell our house at the moment - which I count as 'hit'.

Told by employers that due to the current economic climate there will
be no bonuses, pay rises, training, travel to any meetings which are
not directly revenue generating, long service awards etc. etc.

Yep - that feels like 'hit' to me.

Always assuming that the compulsory redundancies don't come my
way.....

No pay increase, no Christmas bonus, and no overtime, however, voluntary
'extra' hours requested to be worked. I'm hit!
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Pete C
London UK

In article ,
Pete C wrote:

No pay increase, no Christmas bonus, and no overtime, however, voluntary
'extra' hours requested to be worked. I'm hit!

Do you have any evidence that the recession is the cause, rather than
merely an excuse?

Working in academia, I am accustomed to all of those, though we did
get a pay increase this year (to counteract bthe many years when we
didn't).



Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

What a stupid f***ing question. To suggest that what is happening is media hype is ignorance in the extreme. Try telling the tens of thousands of building trade workers who have been laid off in the last few months that it's media hype. We are in a recession, there is worse to come and no-one, even the original poster, will be immune.

Janet Conroy wrote:
What a stupid f***ing question. To suggest that what is happening is
media hype is ignorance in the extreme. Try telling the tens of
thousands of building trade workers who have been laid off in the last
few months that it's media hype. We are in a recession, there is worse
to come and no-one, even the original poster, will be immune.

If the f***ing building companies hadn't got greedy they wouldn't have
left with this problem in the first place.

Well, I own a roofing company, and - if you class installing copper ridge
on roofs as "building trade" - then, we're busier than ever.
Possibly because people are "extending" rather than moving house,
and want the older roof to look the same as the newer part...

I just wish we could get some better weather. The past "summer" was
not kind to us.

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AnneJ

"THAT" is what I mean. At grass roots level, .............. what recession?
and this is what I found at the meeting the other night, ............ what
recession?

Media driven which gives the big businesses the opportunity to get rid of
dross/re-structure/cut back production on someone else's back

Mike

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"Anne Welsh Jackson" wrote in message
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Well, I own a roofing company, and - if you class installing copper ridge
on roofs as "building trade" - then, we're busier than ever.
Possibly because people are "extending" rather than moving house,
and want the older roof to look the same as the newer part...

AnneJ

""Media""???????????????

Just picked this up from another site ....

...I work for an automotive manufacturer on the south coast. We have just hit
the headlines because of some changes to our production and temp staff
going. The media haven't reported the facts as they are. As far as they are
concerned its game over. Infact its not at all and we will still make more
cars next year than we did in 2007! The media are as guilty as the bankers
for the state we are in!.......

""Media""""?

Follow it of you like, "I" live in the real world and it is fine and rosy
:-))))))))))

Lost your job? Were you crap at it? Have you thought of working for
yourself? 24/7 :-((

Mike

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from Anne Welsh Jackson contains these words:
Janet Conroy wrote:

What a stupid f***ing question. To suggest that what is happening
is media hype is ignorance in the extreme. Try telling the tens of
thousands of building trade workers who have been laid off in the last
few months that it's media hype. We are in a recession, there is worse
to come and no-one, even the original poster, will be immune.

Well, I own a roofing company, and - if you class installing copper ridge
on roofs as "building trade" - then, we're busier than ever.
Possibly because people are "extending" rather than moving house,
and want the older roof to look the same as the newer part...

I just wish we could get some better weather. The past "summer" was
not kind to us.

I would have thought that roofs would have sold like hot cakes...

D&RF - er - Roof.

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Rusty
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In article ,
Pete C wrote:

No pay increase, no Christmas bonus, and no overtime, however,
voluntary 'extra' hours requested to be worked. I'm hit!

Do you have any evidence that the recession is the cause, rather than
merely an excuse?

Working in academia, I am accustomed to all of those, though we did
get a pay increase this year (to counteract bthe many years when we
didn't).

One client going bust on us......... for £32 Work is harder to
find........less of it, and what there is is auctioned...........sometimes
going for prices we can't buy materials for.
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Pete C
London UK

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wrote in message
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In article ,
Pete C wrote:

No pay increase, no Christmas bonus, and no overtime, however, voluntary
'extra' hours requested to be worked. I'm hit!

Do you have any evidence that the recession is the cause, rather than
merely an excuse?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

This is my feeling and quite a few I asked at a meeting the other night.
"An excuse" to weed out/ditch/re-organise etc etc on someone else's 'back'.
I don't personally know anyone, who knows of anyone who has been affected.
Oh yes plenty in the paper!!! ""Media hype""
Holiday bookings are going well.
Yes house sales are slow, but why? Because the purchase of a house is a big
thing, a great investment, a long term investment, therefore with the media
telling us there is a recession and people believing the media :-( then they
hold back.

Mike

'Mike' wrote:

You are lucky then, most of the suppliers to the automotive industry
like us are going onto a reduced working week after Christmas

On Dec 4, 9:53*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
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wrote in message

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In article ,
Pete C wrote:

No pay increase, no Christmas bonus, and no overtime, however, voluntary
'extra' hours requested to be worked. I'm hit!

Do you have any evidence that the recession is the cause, rather than
merely an excuse?

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

This is my feeling and quite a few I asked at a meeting the other night.
"An excuse" to weed out/ditch/re-organise etc etc on someone else's 'back'.
I don't personally know anyone, who knows of anyone who has been affected..
Oh yes plenty in the paper!!! ""Media hype""
Holiday bookings are going well.
Yes house sales are slow, but why? Because the purchase of a house is a big
thing, a great investment, a long term investment, therefore with the media
telling us there is a recession and people believing the media :-( then they
hold back.

Mike

Try telling that to the thousands of people who have already lost or
are about to lose their jobs, or those whose salaries are frozen, or
even cut back.
Recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth in
a country's GDP. That point was reached in Ireland before the Summer,
and more recently in your neck of the woods.
Retail sales are back - why do you think your gubmint has reduced VAT
to 15%? And why do you think so many of your retailers have
anticipated it in their pricing?
I wish the recession were mere media hype. The hype may well worsen
it - by making people more cautious with their spending - but it has
regrettably a very real foundation.
I know that Ireland is not the UK, but our economies are very closely
linked. A lot of folks I know who work in the building trade have
seen their working week shrink, and in some cases disappear entirely.
I'm not talking big time developers here, I'm talking small self-
employed tradesmen. Hell, even the commute to and from Dublin is
easier these days, what with fewer white vans and other commuters on
the road!!

Caít()

"Pete C" wrote in message
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David W EEE Roberts wrote:
'Mike' wrote:

..... ""recession"" hit you or is it all media hype?

Do you know anybody who has been hit by this ""recession""? HOW?



Mike


Can't sell our house at the moment - which I count as 'hit'.

Told by employers that due to the current economic climate there will
be no bonuses, pay rises, training, travel to any meetings which are
not directly revenue generating, long service awards etc. etc.

Yep - that feels like 'hit' to me.

Always assuming that the compulsory redundancies don't come my
way.....


That has just happened to my neighbour. He's hit.

Steve

shazzbat wrote:
"Pete C" wrote in message
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David W EEE Roberts wrote:
'Mike' wrote:

..... ""recession"" hit you or is it all media hype?

Do you know anybody who has been hit by this ""recession""? HOW?



Mike

Can't sell our house at the moment - which I count as 'hit'.

Told by employers that due to the current economic climate there will
be no bonuses, pay rises, training, travel to any meetings which are
not directly revenue generating, long service awards etc. etc.

Yep - that feels like 'hit' to me.

Always assuming that the compulsory redundancies don't come my
way.....

That has just happened to my neighbour. He's hit.

Steve



The term "hit" is interesting. We like to feel that this is an act of
god, or some kind of external, uncontrollable event. Shame for those
left standing up when the music stopped, but it ain't a tsunami