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Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.
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Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such as
I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have more
than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather difficult to
get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we moved to our
current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold to (ironically)
the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.
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Unable to help with exact answers, but http://www.plasticsbypost.net/ might
help with the plastic when you find what you want. They are very close to me
(walking distance to the garage a few doors away who did my MOT yesterday
......... that close) so if you want me to go and 'feel anything', give me a
shout.

Mike


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Many thanks Mike. I hope it won't be necessary to bug you but I do
appreciate the offer.

Cheers!
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Many thanks Mike. I hope it won't be necessary to bug you but I do
appreciate the offer.

Cheers!
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Many garden centres stock meter wide medium gauge poly on the roll that
would be suitable for your purpose.
About £5 per meter length.

I got some recently from

http://www.stapeleywg.com/

Regards
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com


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Many garden centres stock meter wide medium gauge poly on the roll that
would be suitable for your purpose.
About £5 per meter length.


That sounds exorbitant in the extreme - I got enough to cover my
greenhouse for not much more than that.

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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:23:39 GMT, Rusty_Hinge

wrote:
The message
from "Pete Stockdale" contains these words:

Many garden centres stock meter wide medium gauge poly on the roll that
would be suitable for your purpose.
About £5 per meter length.


That sounds exorbitant in the extreme - I got enough to cover my
greenhouse for not much more than that.


How big is your greenhouse?


Lean-to, beside garage, base (so, roof) about 8 ft × 13 ft
Long side, 13 ft × 7 ft
Short side, 8 ft × (8 ft, dropping to 7 ft.)

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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:15:26 +0000, Gopher wrote:

Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.


Try www.plasticsbypost.net They are in the IOW but I dealt with them
some years ago and they were OK.
You need it to be more than 1m wide though, don't you?
I made one when Geoff Hamilton originally made them. I still have the
piping. It's had all sorts of uses over the years. (builders'
merchants)

Pam in Bristol
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:15:26 +0000, Gopher wrote:

Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.


Try www.plasticsbypost.net They are in the IOW but I dealt with them
some years ago and they were OK.
You need it to be more than 1m wide though, don't you?
I made one when Geoff Hamilton originally made them. I still have the
piping. It's had all sorts of uses over the years. (builders'
merchants)

Pam in Bristol


Thanks to all for the help & suggestions. I have the piping left over
from the building of our new village hall in which I was involved.
Unfortunately the roof is slate and the walls stone so no suitable
plastic left around :-))

Thanks again!

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"Gopher" wrote in message
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Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such as
I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have more
than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather difficult to
get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we moved to our
current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold to (ironically)
the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.


a website with pictures and plans (that cost) if you want them. I did
without the plans.
rob
http://www.eartheasy.com/cloche.htm

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"Gopher" wrote in message
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Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago,
Toby Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe
to form the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised
beds such as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping
and have more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it
rather difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically
when we moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel
which I sold to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for
such a job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is
so wet I could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy
in the way of plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.


a website with pictures and plans (that cost) if you want them. I did
without the plans.
rob
http://www.eartheasy.com/cloche.htm


That's the sort of thing .... a bit smaller than I want ... and it has
handles, very posh :-))

Now I think I have the info and direction I need.

Many thanks

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"Gopher" wrote in message
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Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

Thanks.


a website with pictures and plans (that cost) if you want them. I did
without the plans.
rob
http://www.eartheasy.com/cloche.htm


That's the sort of thing .... a bit smaller than I want ... and it has
handles, very posh :-))

Now I think I have the info and direction I need.

Many thanks


I made one but didn't bother with the wooden uprights up rights. I simply
hammered together some old 4 x 2 into a rectangle, put a cross member at the
middle of the rectangle, drilled holes either side to ran the plastic hose
pipe in to & bent the pipe over in a "U" shape. All the bits cost me less
than $10. Plastic was whatever I had lying around, though it did deteriorate
after 12-18 months. Not uv stable.

Now however, here is the stunningly clever bit on my part. I do not bother
with any fancy fastening system for the plastic. If I want to secure the
plastic to the plastic pipe I use some of these:
http://www.godfrey-diy.co.uk/ironmon...m29004300.html
Spring tool clips. I simply leave the plastic a bit baggy & clip it down
with the spring clip. I can clip the plastic to any position on the pipes I
want. Stunningly simple by clever. And I thought of it all by myself.

rob

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"Gopher" wrote in message
news Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago,
Toby Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water
pipe to form the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for
raised beds such as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired
the piping and have more than enough wood for the lower frame but
am finding it rather difficult to get hold of the strong plastic
cover. Ironically when we moved to our current home there was an
ageing poly tunnel which I sold to (ironically) the estate agent
through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for
such a job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground
is so wet I could get on with making them - if only I knew what to
buy in the way of plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but
it seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very
welcome.

Thanks.

snip

I made one but didn't bother with the wooden uprights up rights. I
simply hammered together some old 4 x 2 into a rectangle, put a cross
member at the middle of the rectangle, drilled holes either side to ran
the plastic hose pipe in to & bent the pipe over in a "U" shape. All
the bits cost me less than $10. Plastic was whatever I had lying
around, though it did deteriorate after 12-18 months. Not uv stable.

Now however, here is the stunningly clever bit on my part. I do not
bother with any fancy fastening system for the plastic. If I want to
secure the plastic to the plastic pipe I use some of these:
http://www.godfrey-diy.co.uk/ironmon...-large/item290
04300.html
Spring tool clips. I simply leave the plastic a bit baggy & clip it
down with the spring clip. I can clip the plastic to any position on
the pipes I want. Stunningly simple by clever. And I thought of it all
by myself.

rob

Excellent! And I don't have to swing through Auckland to pick them up.
Who said the age of invention was dead :-))

Thanks again!
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:15:26 +0000, Gopher wrote:

Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.


You might be able to find it here
http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to...ry/garden-diy/


Many thanks Martin .... I've trawled through all 268 projects/tips etc.
but can't find it. But I _did_ find all kinds of useful things so have
bookmarked the site.

Thanks again.

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In message , Martin
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:15:26 +0000, Gopher wrote:

Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.


You might be able to find it here
http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to...ry/garden-diy/


Many thanks Martin .... I've trawled through all 268 projects/tips etc.
but can't find it. But I _did_ find all kinds of useful things so have
bookmarked the site.

Thanks again.

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This is a copy of one done by Geoff Hamilton and is in one of his books. I
have scanned it and put it on my photo site, but it won't go public for all
to see.
However the plastic looks very thin, he doesn't state the gauge. I will take
the book into plastics by post and see what they recommend and get details
for you. If you want a scan of the page, email me and I will forward it. all
lower case MiKeATrNeBa.Org.uk

Mike


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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:15:26 +0000, Gopher wrote:

Hello all,

Some may recall that on Gardeners World about 2 months or so ago, Toby
Wossisname made a type of cloche using flexible blue water pipe to form
the ribs of a very useful looking cloche - perfect for raised beds such
as I have for vegetable growing. I have acquired the piping and have
more than enough wood for the lower frame but am finding it rather
difficult to get hold of the strong plastic cover. Ironically when we
moved to our current home there was an ageing poly tunnel which I sold
to (ironically) the estate agent through whom we bought the house.

Does anyone have an idea as to the gauge of plastic necessary for such a
job. I want to make 3 of these cloches and while the ground is so wet I
could get on with making them - if only I knew what to buy in the way of
plastic sheeting.

I also tried to review the programme through the BBC I-player but it
seems to be past its sell by date now. Any help or advice very welcome.

You might be able to find it here
http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to...ry/garden-diy/


Many thanks Martin .... I've trawled through all 268 projects/tips etc.
but can't find it. But I _did_ find all kinds of useful things so have
bookmarked the site.

Thanks again.

--
Gopher .... I know my place!


This is a copy of one done by Geoff Hamilton and is in one of his books. I
have scanned it and put it on my photo site, but it won't go public for
all to see.
However the plastic looks very thin, he doesn't state the gauge. I will
take the book into plastics by post and see what they recommend and get
details for you. If you want a scan of the page, email me and I will
forward it. all lower case MiKeATrNeBa.Org.uk

Mike


I am led to believe that this http://www.myalbum.com/Photo-HWOU6QQX.jpg will
take you there

Fingers crossed

Mike




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