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The smallholder site, states that you can take cuttings from raspberry,
redcurrant, blackcurrant and gooseberry and plant in a trench. Does anyone
know when is the best time of year for south coast. TIA.
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The smallholder site, states that you can take cuttings from raspberry,
redcurrant, blackcurrant and gooseberry and plant in a trench. Does anyone
know when is the best time of year for south coast. TIA.
http://www.thesmallholder.co.uk/index.htm


I wouldn't think raspberries were either possible, or worth doing. I've
come across similar claims, but it's much better to take the underground
runners and plant those. Keep them moist and they never fail.

Otherwise, the others are just about foolproof.

Just take a cutting and poke it in somewhere - just try to stop it rooting.

Some of them are alleged to take better from half-ripened green wood -
jostaberry/worcesterberry, but I've found that any cutting of currants,
gooseberries or allied species/varieties will take in moist soil.

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The smallholder site, states that you can take cuttings from raspberry,
redcurrant, blackcurrant and gooseberry and plant in a trench. Does
anyone
know when is the best time of year for south coast. TIA.
http://www.thesmallholder.co.uk/index.htm


I wouldn't think raspberries were either possible, or worth doing. I've
come across similar claims, but it's much better to take the underground
runners and plant those. Keep them moist and they never fail.

Otherwise, the others are just about foolproof.

Just take a cutting and poke it in somewhere - just try to stop it
rooting.

Some of them are alleged to take better from half-ripened green wood -
jostaberry/worcesterberry, but I've found that any cutting of currants,
gooseberries or allied species/varieties will take in moist soil.

Thanks Rusty, there's no shortage of material, as it's the allotment next
door. I assume early Spring, a few weeks after the parent plants are growing
strongly.

She's also offered loganberry, that has spread about 12 feet along wires.
Can't say I've tasted these before, so fingers crossed for a reasonable
summer.




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Thanks Rusty, there's no shortage of material, as it's the allotment next
door. I assume early Spring, a few weeks after the parent plants are
growing
strongly.


Do it now! Best time is autumn.

She's also offered loganberry, that has spread about 12 feet along wires.
Can't say I've tasted these before, so fingers crossed for a reasonable
summer.


Ah, they propagate by the tip of the cane rooting, as per bramble. If
any of last years canes are touching the ground, especially at the ends,
but sometimes at a side-shoot, you may find rooted bits.

Cuttings don't take, IME.

If none, ask if you can peg down the end of a cane when it has nearly
stopped growing.

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Do it now! Best time is autumn.

She's also offered loganberry, that has spread about 12 feet along wires.
Can't say I've tasted these before, so fingers crossed for a reasonable
summer.


Ah, they propagate by the tip of the cane rooting, as per bramble. If
any of last years canes are touching the ground, especially at the ends,
but sometimes at a side-shoot, you may find rooted bits.

Cuttings don't take, IME.

If none, ask if you can peg down the end of a cane when it has nearly
stopped growing.


Thanks Rusty, I'll make a start ASAP.







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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message
The message from "Bertie Doe" contains these words:

Thanks Rusty, there's no shortage of material, as it's the allotment next
door. I assume early Spring, a few weeks after the parent plants are
growing
strongly.


Do it now! Best time is autumn.

She's also offered loganberry, that has spread about 12 feet along wires.
Can't say I've tasted these before, so fingers crossed for a reasonable
summer.


Ah, they propagate by the tip of the cane rooting, as per bramble. If
any of last years canes are touching the ground, especially at the ends,
but sometimes at a side-shoot, you may find rooted bits.

Cuttings don't take, IME.

If none, ask if you can peg down the end of a cane when it has nearly
stopped growing.

I popped into one of those warehouse DIY places yesterday, for some plumbing
bits. I had a nose in the gardening section and spotted about 100 raspberry
"plants". Each plant (£6) consisted of a soft poly pot (about 3 litres of
soil) with EXACTLY 10 stems on each plant. Each stem approx 200mm.

Question : Is this one plant or 10 canes? If it's 10 canes then this is good
value at 60p per cane. If it's a plant, then it's expensive. I couldn't
detect any movement from the stems, which might suggest its a single plant -
unless the stems/canes were cut last year, popped into a poly pot of soil,
canes rooted to form a plant. In which case, they can be untangled.

Too long a Q at the gardening check-out, so couldn't enquire. The varieties
FWIW : Malling General Leo, Malling Jewel, Glen Prosen and Glen Clova.

Bertie


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I popped into one of those warehouse DIY places yesterday, for some
plumbing bits. I had a nose in the gardening section and spotted about
100 raspberry "plants". Each plant (£6) consisted of a soft poly pot
(about 3 litres of soil) with EXACTLY 10 stems on each plant. Each
stem approx 200mm.

Question : Is this one plant or 10 canes? If it's 10 canes then this
is good value at 60p per cane. If it's a plant, then it's expensive. I
couldn't detect any movement from the stems, which might suggest its a
single plant - unless the stems/canes were cut last year, popped into
a poly pot of soil, canes rooted to form a plant. In which case, they
can be untangled.


I'd bet safe money that they would be 10 rooted canes. The cost and your
description says so.
Also, its fairly standard practice to sell raspberry plants in GCs in
bunches of say, 5 or 10 canes.
Last year I bought a total of 30 canes from 4 different garden centres
and nurseries and they all retailed bunches tied this way.

pp.




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Bertie Doe wrote:

Too long a Q at the gardening check-out, so couldn't enquire. The varieties
FWIW : Malling General Leo, Malling Jewel, Glen Prosen and Glen Clova.


In my experience Leo is one of the best tasting commercial rasperries, but
I've found it susceptible to disease. Malling Jewel is a good cropper, but
fruit taste is a bit bland. I've not (knowingly) tasted the 2 glens
mentioned.



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