On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:53:54 +0100
Ed ex@directory wrote:

Sorry... I should have said that I live in East Herts in the UK..

In that case you need an armed guard - if you can find one you trust.
Anywhere south of Lancaster is 'Here be Dragons' land where everyone is
a potential tea leaf. :-)

R.

David Rance wrote:
Rain is promised for this
afternoon but French forecasts are so inaccurate in this area (the
Suisse Normande) that I'll believe it when I see it!

David

We just stepped out of the front door to take the dogs a walk and the
skies opened, drowning us. As you say it is impossible to rely on the
weather forecasts here; they often seem no better than guess work.

I also like the luxury of stepping out of the house and straight into a
large garden. It is so convenient. I grow most of our own veg too. I
just wish the weeks didn't come up and go to seed so damn quick. There
is a variety of grass that comes from nowhere and sets seed while it is
only a couple of inches high. Similarly another weed with little yellow
flowers - I must look up it's name.

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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, David in Normandy wrote:

David Rance wrote:
Rain is promised for this afternoon but French forecasts are so
inaccurate in this area (the Suisse Normande) that I'll believe it
when I see it!

We just stepped out of the front door to take the dogs a walk and the
skies opened, drowning us. As you say it is impossible to rely on the
weather forecasts here; they often seem no better than guess work.

By contrast, here the mist is clearing and we have a lovely sunny day.
How long before your rain reaches us, I wonder. Can't quite remember
where you are, David, but our postcode is 14690.

I also like the luxury of stepping out of the house and straight into a
large garden. It is so convenient. I grow most of our own veg too. I
just wish the weeks didn't come up and go to seed so damn quick.

Shows you're getting older! I have the same problem.

There is a variety of grass that comes from nowhere and sets seed
while it is only a couple of inches high. Similarly another weed with
little yellow flowers - I must look up it's name.

What gets me is that grass here grows twice as fast - literally - as it
does in Reading.

David

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writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:06:19 +0100, Ed ex@directory wrote:

On 14/04/09 17:32, Pam Moore wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:14:08 +0100, Ed ex@directory wrote:

Got my new shed now on the allotment and am well pleased with it and use
it to store my tools (spade, fork, hoe, rake, etc.) and all the other
small bits and pieces that are essential for gardening work.

But should I lock the shed door with the key when I leave? Or just
leave it unlocked with the wheelbarrow upturned against it?

What do people here usually do?

Ed

I share a shed with a friend who has a metal "locker" inside which he
padlocks. It is an old changing-rooms type locker. Things in the
outer part are of less interest to theives (wellies etc!) than the
tools inside the locker. Previously people came with bolt cutters and
cut through a pretty substantial padlock. It really depends on your
area and the security of your site. We do better now our site has a
strong metal fence round it.

Pam in Bristol

Wow.. Pam, that sounds interesting idea.. a locker in the shed!!

But tell me this.. you have high perimeter fencing about you're
allotment site?

Ed (East Herts, UK)

Yes, the fencing is the sort they put round schools now.

Pam in Bristol

David Rance wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, David in Normandy wrote:

David Rance wrote:
Rain is promised for this afternoon but French forecasts are so
inaccurate in this area (the Suisse Normande) that I'll believe it
when I see it!

We just stepped out of the front door to take the dogs a walk and the
skies opened, drowning us. As you say it is impossible to rely on the
weather forecasts here; they often seem no better than guess work.

By contrast, here the mist is clearing and we have a lovely sunny day.
How long before your rain reaches us, I wonder. Can't quite remember
where you are, David, but our postcode is 14690.

I also like the luxury of stepping out of the house and straight into
a large garden. It is so convenient. I grow most of our own veg too. I
just wish the weeks didn't come up and go to seed so damn quick.

Shows you're getting older! I have the same problem.

There is a variety of grass that comes from nowhere and sets seed
while it is only a couple of inches high. Similarly another weed with
little yellow flowers - I must look up it's name.

What gets me is that grass here grows twice as fast - literally - as it
does in Reading.

David


We are near Vire. It is bright and sunny here too now.
The weather forecasts often contradict one anther too on different
television channels. One says thunder storms this afternoon and the
other says cloud / rain.

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"David in Normandy" wrote in message
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Ed wrote:

I like having the shed . It means I can leave all my tools and stuff
there and I can sit inside if there a bit of rain. So, I can then just
cycle up there on my push bike and not need take the car .

Ed (Herts, UK).


In the end it is a gamble. Depending on the amount of theft and vandalism
in your particular allotment. You have to weigh up the value of your
tools, which ones to keep there and the convenience of not carrying them
all the time... and be prepared to buy replacements if they get stolen.

If your tools do get stolen you may be lucky and find identical ones going
cheap on a car boot sale ;-)

one way around that is to buy cheap second hand tools. If they are worn they
may not be so attractive to a chancer and not a huge loss if pinched.

rob

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from Pam Moore contains these words:

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But tell me this.. you have high perimeter fencing about you're
allotment site?

Yes, the fencing is the sort they put round schools now.

Well, it doesn't keep the prisoner^h^h^h^kids in, do you expect it'll
keep them out?

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On 14/04/09 19:26, Pete C wrote:
Ed wrote:
On 14/04/09 18:13, Pete C wrote:
Ed wrote:
Got my new shed now on the allotment and am well pleased with it and
use it to store my tools (spade, fork, hoe, rake, etc.) and all the
other small bits and pieces that are essential for gardening work.

But should I lock the shed door with the key when I leave? Or just
leave it unlocked with the wheelbarrow upturned against it?

What do people here usually do?

Ed
There is no proper answer.........depends largely on the level of
vandalism in your area. Ask fellow plotholders about the history of
the site. I'll be putting up a shed on my plot in a couple of weeks,
and my intention atm is not to lock it. Atm, as I clear and dig over
the plot, I leave all my tools in a water barrel with a cover. So
far, so good. As for comments about 'why' a shed........ a pee bucket,
chair to
have a break if it rains, a camping stove and kettle for a
brew.........all very nice
Agree totally with you as to why have a shed!! Boil a pan of water,
pick some sweet corn cobs, plunge them straight in, cook n eat!!
Magic!!
Ed (East Herts, UK)

Oh Ed, you got me drooling now

Pete, you're welcome come visit !!

Ed

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
Got my new shed now on the allotment and am well pleased with it and use
it to store my tools (spade, fork, hoe, rake, etc.) and all the other
small bits and pieces that are essential for gardening work.

But should I lock the shed door with the key when I leave? Or just leave
it unlocked with the wheelbarrow upturned against it?

What do people here usually do?

Ed

Let me equivocate for other's knowledge. An allotment is in the public
domain. Like a parking lot in a public accesible retail store. You have an
enclosure in that parking lot that has your personal belonging, and you want
to know if you should lock it up... Yawn....
--
Dave
Dependency on large banks is undermining your, your children's, and
grandchildren's future. Stop hiding behind the numbers and politicians...

John Morrison wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:33:37 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
wrote:

Ed wrote:
Got my new shed now on the allotment and am well pleased with it and
use it to store my tools (spade, fork, hoe, rake, etc.) and all the
other small bits and pieces that are essential for gardening work.

But should I lock the shed door with the key when I leave? Or just
leave it unlocked with the wheelbarrow upturned against it?

What do people here usually do?

When I leave the house to go shopping etc. I always lock the shed.
I have two dogs that probably are a bit of a deterrent but my side
gates are also locked so that the gates can't be simply opened to
allow my dogs to escape and then close the gates again to block
reentry by my dogs.

My reasoning is that someone with only a handkerchief in their pocket
could gain entry to my back yard by climbing the fence and if the
garden shed is already open, they would then have immediate access to
a variety of tools and implements.

I cannot imagine how you will get any benefit from asking this
question here. How on earth would anybody be able to give you a
sensible answer?

There is often an amount of garbage in this newsgroup but I
considered the above to be a reasonable question.

What's next?

Should I invest in shares or property?
Should I join the local library or go to the pub?
Should I scratch my arse in church even if nobody is watching?
Can God see my arse even if nobody else can, does He know that it is
itchy, would He mind if I scratched?

Try alt.delphic.oracle

Thanks David,

In the five lines below "What's next?" you identified yourself.

Before going for the big guns of the ad hominem why not show how my point is
wrong. How could a stranger from anywhere in the world give sensible advice
in this case? Or is it a case of global democracy, the most people who know
nothing about it who vote the same way decide?

David

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"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
Got my new shed now on the allotment and am well pleased with it and use
it to store my tools (spade, fork, hoe, rake, etc.) and all the other
small bits and pieces that are essential for gardening work.

But should I lock the shed door with the key when I leave? Or just leave
it unlocked with the wheelbarrow upturned against it?

What do people here usually do?

Ed
Dave: Take Two

Let me (equivocate = use ambiguous language so as to conceal the truth
or avoid committing oneself) for other's knowledge. An allotment is in
the public
domain. Like a parking lot (IN?) a public accesible retail store. You
have an enclosure in that parking lot ((IN?) a public accesible retail
store) that has your personal belonging, and you want to know if you
should lock it up... Yawn....
-----

Huh?
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
Got my new shed now on the allotment and am well pleased with it and
use
it to store my tools (spade, fork, hoe, rake, etc.) and all the other
small bits and pieces that are essential for gardening work.

But should I lock the shed door with the key when I leave? Or just
leave
it unlocked with the wheelbarrow upturned against it?

What do people here usually do?

Ed
Dave: Take Two

Let me (equivocate = use ambiguous language so as to conceal the truth
or avoid committing oneself) for other's knowledge. An allotment is in
the public
domain. Like a parking lot (IN?) a public accesible retail store. You
have an enclosure in that parking lot ((IN?) a public accesible retail
store) that has your personal belonging, and you want to know if you
should lock it up... Yawn....
-----

Huh?
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

Maybe I should call you "Nancy"?

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Dave
April 16th, 2009 Day 1 post Tea Party.
This day in history occurred:
Nancy Pelosi response was undignified per her allegation that such are
funded by right wing money big money and attended exclusively by right wing
extremists.
White House staff indicated that officially not recognizing the nation-wide
gatherings in any fashion.
Some news reporters were found attempting to goad responses from attendees
at the gatherings with response not filling their (some news reporters) TV
political needs. Too bad for them.
Woebama in Mexico. 2nd amendment rights being pinged again. Ignoring
locking down the U.S/Mexico border again.
We thte people...
No political party or otherwise in that.
Locked signature to prevent subsequent historical revisionism.

In article ,
"Dioclese" NONE wrote:

April 16th, 2009 Day 1 post Tea Party.
This day in history occurred:
Nancy Pelosi response was undignified per her allegation that such are
funded by right wing money big money and attended exclusively by right wing
extremists.
White House staff indicated that officially not recognizing the nation-wide
gatherings in any fashion.
Some news reporters were found attempting to goad responses from attendees
at the gatherings with response not filling their (some news reporters) TV
political needs. Too bad for them.
Woebama in Mexico. 2nd amendment rights being pinged again. Ignoring
locking down the U.S/Mexico border again.
We thte people...
No political party or otherwise in that.
Locked signature to prevent subsequent historical revisionism.

Right-wing nut case,
the first Boston tea party was as much a farce as Michael Savages
reprise.

It was a well known fact that John Hancock had made his fortune through
smuggling Dutch tea, which was cheaper than East Indian tea. A commonly
forgotten fact is that East Indian prices were cut before the
introduction of the three pence tax, in effect making its price, even
with the tax, cheaper than Hancock¹s tea.
http://www.boston-tea-party.org/smug...n-Hancock.html

At least it looks like an exemplary year for nuts.

Good gardening.
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

In the UK an allotment is a parel of land rented, usually from local
government, (the council) usually by an individual. I have my plot of land.
In the UK the local authority is obliged in law by a number of 'enclosure
acts' to provide such land as may be neccessary in a particular area. This
is because of riots after the landed gentry enclosed the common land and
made it their own in the 1800's. Leaving poor people nowhere to graze their
animals or grow food for the table.

Allotments are usually collected together in a site managed by a committee,
and in any site there may be a handful of allotments or dozens. On my site
there are about 150 plots. each managed by an individual, or family or group
of friends. I have my own plot, with my own shed, as does the man next to me
and the couple next to him and the couple over the road. It is not the same
thing as a community garden. I farm my own plot as do the other allotment
holders on the site.

Go here to see the site that I have a plot on:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...03433&t=h&z=18

BTW I don't lock my shed, I just leave sharp and dangerous hazards and
manure lying around so that any thieving scrote or other class traitor will
hopefully injure themselves and catch something dreadful.

Baldymoon


I don't want to arrive at my grave in an attractive and well preserved body,
hopefully I will be skidding in
sideways, Gin and Tonic in one hand -- Cigar in the other screaming YAHAAAY!


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"Ed" ex@directory wrote in message
et...
On 14/04/09 17:41, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Ed" wrote ...
Got my new shed now on the allotment and

Meant to ask, what's an "allotment"?

Assuming you're in the U.S, you would probably call it a community
garden.

Steve

Thanks. Then I would definitely lock my shed.

In article ,
"Hamer Family" wrote:

In the UK an allotment is a parel of land rented, usually from local
government, (the council) usually by an individual. I have my plot of land.
In the UK the local authority is obliged in law by a number of 'enclosure
acts' to provide such land as may be neccessary in a particular area. This
is because of riots after the landed gentry enclosed the common land and
made it their own in the 1800's. Leaving poor people nowhere to graze their
animals or grow food for the table.

A dark day with the loss of the commons. A model that many counties
seem to mimic. (

Bill where is Chief Seattle ?

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Not all who wander are lost.
- J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973)