On 2009-06-06 11:09:28 +0100, michael said:

I cant avoid watching Gardeners World,since it seems part of our
Friday evening ritual.However,last night the programme was
awful.Making raised beds using a curved design,and requiring
individual timber pieces was just ridiculous.Also the silly 30 min
tasks got sillier this week with trying to make roof gardens over
sheds and guinea pig hutchs.In the spice bed plants were thrown in at
random,with few described.The only interesting thing was the sowing of
green seed for the propagating of primroses,but since primroses seed
themselves naturally,even this was hardly worth it.
The content now is awful,and I am afraid to say that I think the
series should be pulled.
Michael

Have you written to the Beeb? Viewer feedback is very important if you
want improvements!
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On Jun 6, 11:17*am, Sacha wrote:

Have you written to the Beeb? *Viewer feedback is very important if you
want improvements!

I do the GfK Media Survey almost daily. Obviously there has been a bad
reaction to the new GW as we were given an extra questionaire after
the first three episodes of the new series which in effect asked,
"What's wrong with it then?" So I told them! Let's hope it does some
good.

On 2009-06-06 13:24:00 +0100, moghouse said:

On Jun 6, 11:17*am, Sacha wrote:

Have you written to the Beeb? *Viewer feedback is very important if you
want improvements!

I do the GfK Media Survey almost daily. Obviously there has been a bad
reaction to the new GW as we were given an extra questionaire after
the first three episodes of the new series which in effect asked,
"What's wrong with it then?" So I told them! Let's hope it does some
good.

Good for you and can you give a link to that Survey, please?
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On Jun 6, 3:43*pm, Sacha wrote:

I do the GfK Media Survey almost daily. Obviously there has been a bad
reaction to the new GW as we were given an extra questionaire after
the first three episodes of the new series which in effect asked,
"What's wrong with it then?" *So I told them! *Let's hope it does some
good.

Good for you and can you give a link to that Survey, please?

Don't quite know how it works but I guess anyone can join:

should get you there. I have a different
link but that can only be used if you are a panel member.

On 2009-06-06 18:07:18 +0100, moghouse said:

On Jun 6, 3:43*pm, Sacha wrote:

I do the GfK Media Survey almost daily. Obviously there has been a bad
reaction to the new GW as we were given an extra questionaire after
the first three episodes of the new series which in effect asked,
"What's wrong with it then?" *So I told them! *Let's hope it does s
ome
good.

Good for you and can you give a link to that Survey, please?

Don't quite know how it works but I guess anyone can join:

should get you there. I have a different
link but that can only be used if you are a panel member.

Sorry but that's telling me it can't open the page.... ;-(
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On Jun 6, 6:18*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-06-06 18:07:18 +0100, moghouse said:

On Jun 6, 3:43*pm, Sacha wrote:

I do the GfK Media Survey almost daily. Obviously there has been a bad
reaction to the new GW as we were given an extra questionaire after
the first three episodes of the new series which in effect asked,
"What's wrong with it then?" *So I told them! *Let's hope it does s
ome
good.

Good for you and can you give a link to that Survey, please?

Don't quite know how it works but I guess anyone can join:

*

Sorry but that's telling me it can't open the page.... *;-(

It seemed to have got changed after I entered it - could be Big
Brother controlling us again. I have corrected it above. On the other
hand perhaps I am more special than I thought - I was invited to join
(probably because I give my opinion to all and sundry whether they
want it or not!)

On Jun 6, 10:38*pm, Martin wrote:

*

Sorry but that's telling me it can't open the page.... *;-(

It seemed to have got changed after I entered it - could be Big
Brother controlling us again. I have corrected it above.

If you really have it still doesn't work.

That's weird, it changed again! The word that distorts should read "
helpdesk" not "helpd..." But of course if you are not one of the
chosen ones.....!

On Jun 6, 11:49*pm, Martin wrote:

Here is the link, if you would like to join:

http://www.surveymedia.net/imm/index.php?Sr=594619"

Well thank goodness for these sophisticated townees. I just knew that
even on urg there would be one smart arse with sufficient savvy to
sort out the electrickery for us. Thank you, Martin to the rescue
again.

In the village, in which I began life, they had a saying: "Them
country boys they don't know narfin'!" I've been proving the veracity
of it ever since.

On 2009-06-07 10:32:21 +0100, moghouse said:

On Jun 6, 11:49*pm, Martin wrote:

Here is the link, if you would like to join:

http://www.surveymedia.net/imm/index.php?Sr=594619"

Well thank goodness for these sophisticated townees. I just knew that
even on urg there would be one smart arse with sufficient savvy to
sort out the electrickery for us. Thank you, Martin to the rescue
again.

In the village, in which I began life, they had a saying: "Them
country boys they don't know narfin'!" I've been proving the veracity
of it ever since.

Raymond's family from a small village in Essex had their own version of
that. Whenever anything broke down/went/wrong, they used to say "We'll
have to get a man in from London". ;-)
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On Jun 7, 11:50*am, Martin wrote:

Well thank goodness for these sophisticated townees. I just knew that
even on urg there would be one smart arse with sufficient savvy to
sort out the electrickery for us. Thank you, Martin to the rescue
again.

In the village, in which I began life, they had a saying: *"Them
country boys they don't know narfin'!" *I've been proving the veracity
of it ever since.

I was a country boy.

Does that mean you were an escapee or a traitor? I knew enough even as
a boy to hide the fact that I had a ridiculously high I.Q. People just
don't like that especially in a child!

On 6 June, 11:20, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:17:04 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-06-06 11:09:28 +0100, michael said:

I cant avoid watching Gardeners World,since it seems part of our
Friday evening ritual.However,last night the programme was
awful.Making raised beds using a curved design,and requiring
individual timber pieces was just ridiculous.Also the silly 30 min
tasks got sillier this week with trying to make roof gardens over
sheds and guinea pig hutchs.In the spice bed plants were thrown in at
random,with few described.The only interesting thing was the sowing of
green seed for the propagating of primroses,but since primroses seed
themselves naturally,even this was hardly worth it.
The content now is awful,and I am afraid to say that I think the
series should be pulled.
Michael

Have you written to the Beeb? *Viewer feedback is very important if you
want improvements!

Have you any evidence that the BBC takes notice of feedback? Most of the POV
programme is spent justifying what the public complain about.
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I have tried to write to the Beeb in the past but with very poor
response.I would be interested to know here whether gardeners on this
Google Group agree that this programme is the worst series ever of
Gardeners World.Given that we are a nation of gardeners,I am surprised
that the media generally aren't given many column inches to the very
poor standard of this programme.
Michael

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:50:50 +0200, Martin wrote:



Maybe something to do with GW personalities also writing gardening articles for
the press.

The Times commented
http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle6168285.ece

Written By Rosie who is one of the most insane people to write for the
british press at the moment. She's a serial house buyer who's
virtually penniless and has frequently written about being it ad
nauseum.
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On 2009-06-06 11:20:28 +0100, Martin said:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 11:17:04 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2009-06-06 11:09:28 +0100, michael said:

I cant avoid watching Gardeners World,since it seems part of our
Friday evening ritual.However,last night the programme was
awful.Making raised beds using a curved design,and requiring
individual timber pieces was just ridiculous.Also the silly 30 min
tasks got sillier this week with trying to make roof gardens over
sheds and guinea pig hutchs.In the spice bed plants were thrown in at
random,with few described.The only interesting thing was the sowing of
green seed for the propagating of primroses,but since primroses seed
themselves naturally,even this was hardly worth it.
The content now is awful,and I am afraid to say that I think the
series should be pulled.
Michael

Have you written to the Beeb? Viewer feedback is very important if you
want improvements!

Have you any evidence that the BBC takes notice of feedback? Most of the POV
programme is spent justifying what the public complain about.

Short of knowing the minutes of discussions taking place at the BBC, I
don't really see how one can be sure. But there is no doubt that when
several members of the public complained about the really awful
presenting and producing at Chelsea a few years ago, notice was taken
and things did improve. At present there's a lot of chat going on
about loud music being played over dialogue etc. and it's aroused a
certain amount of press interest, too. The point is that if nothing is
said, and no efforts are made to let them know what the public think
and want then we have only ourselves to blame. It's a bit like not
voting and then complaining about the governments we get, IMO!
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

On 2009-06-06 16:34:54 +0100, Martin said:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:23:00 +0100, Sacha wrote:
snip

The point is that if nothing is
said, and no efforts are made to let them know what the public think
and want then we have only ourselves to blame. It's a bit like not
voting and then complaining about the governments we get, IMO!

People ran some sort of e-mail campaign complaining about the way it was
impossible to read the credits and the pointless split screen at the end of the
programmes. On POV the BBC person responsible didn't agree with them
and nothing
changed. E-mail complaints to the BBC usually trigger standard replies which
are often irrelevant.

The amount of complaints must make a difference. One or two get nobody
anywhere but a steady stream or a concerted lump can hardly be
overlooked altogether. If they're sensible, they'll make sure that
they read this group and others like it from time to time. I fell
asleep during GW last night and Ray got so fed up he switched channels.
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon