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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:10:53 +0100, Ted wrote:
The instructions with my new Ryobi strimmer tell me not to mix more petrol/oil that I can use within 30 days...Anyone tell my why this is and if it really matters to a couple of months.. Ryobi are American, I think thier "gas" must be different to our petrol as you quite often see that warning and you can buy "gas conditioners" to prevent it. I can't say I've ever had a problem with oil/fuel mix after being in the fuel tank (thus not 100% sealed) of my Ryobi strimmer. Even over winter. Make sure it's well mixed in the first place and slosh the old stuff about in the tank in case it has settled (but I don't think it would). -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
I can't say I've ever had a problem with oil/fuel mix after being in the fuel tank (thus not 100% sealed) of my Ryobi strimmer. Even over winter. Ditto with my Ryobi strimmer. I've left mixed fuel in it over Winter and it doesn't seem to have had any detrimental effects and it still runs with the old fuel anyway. I just top it up as necessary with pre-mixed 2 stroke. -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:52:11 +0200, David in Normandy wrote:
Ditto with my Ryobi strimmer. I've left mixed fuel in it over Winter and it doesn't seem to have had any detrimental effects and it still runs with the old fuel anyway. I just top it up as necessary with pre-mixed 2 stroke. I got my Ryobi last year. It was never easy to start then and would not start at all this year (left with fuel in over winter). I drained all the old fuel out and put new in - it started ! Could be I'm doing something wrong - any ideas ? -- Regards, Hugh Jampton |
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Hugh Jampton wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:52:11 +0200, David in Normandy wrote: Ditto with my Ryobi strimmer. I've left mixed fuel in it over Winter and it doesn't seem to have had any detrimental effects and it still runs with the old fuel anyway. I just top it up as necessary with pre-mixed 2 stroke. I got my Ryobi last year. It was never easy to start then and would not start at all this year (left with fuel in over winter). I drained all the old fuel out and put new in - it started ! Could be I'm doing something wrong - any ideas ? The only problem I did have starting mine turned out to be the spark plug. For a while it was temperamental to start and to keep running, finally it wouldn't start at all. On removing the spark plug I discovered the ceramic bit had broken and was loose. New spark plug and it was fine. Maybe your spark plug ceramic has cracked like mine did? -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:50:53 +0200, David in Normandy wrote:
The only problem I did have starting mine turned out to be the spark plug. For a while it was temperamental to start and to keep running, finally it wouldn't start at all. On removing the spark plug I discovered the ceramic bit had broken and was loose. New spark plug and it was fine. Maybe your spark plug ceramic has cracked like mine did? I did think that maybe it was the spark plug but was unable to get to it :-( A cover needs to be removed and I don't have the correct allen key. As a test I tried to start it again today. Primed it 7 times as per the instructions and it wouldn't start. Left it an hour or two and tried again (without priming). It started. Perhaps it doesn't need so much priming ? -- Regards, Hugh Jampton |
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Hugh Jampton wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:50:53 +0200, David in Normandy wrote: The only problem I did have starting mine turned out to be the spark plug. For a while it was temperamental to start and to keep running, finally it wouldn't start at all. On removing the spark plug I discovered the ceramic bit had broken and was loose. New spark plug and it was fine. Maybe your spark plug ceramic has cracked like mine did? I did think that maybe it was the spark plug but was unable to get to it :-( A cover needs to be removed and I don't have the correct allen key. As a test I tried to start it again today. Primed it 7 times as per the instructions and it wouldn't start. Left it an hour or two and tried again (without priming). It started. Perhaps it doesn't need so much priming ? Sounds like you are flooding it maybe? Better to err on the side of less priming. You can always give it another push if necessary. Once flooded you would need to wait for the petrol to evaporate before it will start. -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:19:10 +0200, David in Normandy wrote:
Sounds like you are flooding it maybe? Better to err on the side of less priming. You can always give it another push if necessary. Once flooded you would need to wait for the petrol to evaporate before it will start. I think that's probably the problem. A few more tests me thinks. Thanks for your help David. -- Regards, Hugh Jampton |
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:57:02 +0100, Hugh Jampton wrote:
As a test I tried to start it again today. Primed it 7 times as per the instructions and it wouldn't start. Left it an hour or two and tried again (without priming). It started. You need to become as one with your two stroke... They can be right bar stewards to start from cold. You need to learn what produces the quickest start for your particular engine in relation to priming, choke setting(s), pulls, attempts to fire, short run then stop etc. I pretty sure I or someone else has previously posted a blow by blow account of how to start a 2 stroke that was pretty accurate and reliable. Try google in this group or possibly uk.d-i-y. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message ... Dave Liquorice wrote: I can't say I've ever had a problem with oil/fuel mix after being in the fuel tank (thus not 100% sealed) of my Ryobi strimmer. Even over winter. Ditto with my Ryobi strimmer. I've left mixed fuel in it over Winter and it doesn't seem to have had any detrimental effects and it still runs with the old fuel anyway. I just top it up as necessary with pre-mixed 2 stroke. In hot weather you can find the petrol evaporates and leaves the oil behind to gum up the works, or at least change the fuelil ratio, cauing smoke, poor running etc. I use the strimmer, then empty it out into the petrol can that I also use for a 4 stroke engine. The oil content isn't enough to cause problems so far. Steve |
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shazzbat wrote:
In hot weather you can find the petrol evaporates and leaves the oil behind to gum up the works, or at least change the fuelil ratio, cauing smoke, poor running etc. That maybe explains why I don't have a problem with storing fuel in mine. The strimmer is kept in the corner of a very cold, North facing garage. -- David in Normandy. To e-mail you must include the password FROG on the subject line, or it will be automatically deleted by a filter and not reach my inbox. |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:49:16 +0200, David in Normandy wrote:
That maybe explains why I don't have a problem with storing fuel in mine. The strimmer is kept in the corner of a very cold, North facing garage. Over winter I'd agree but my strimmer only gets use about once a month during the summer, the garage then can be quite warm. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote:
Ryobi are American, I think thier "gas" must be different to our petrol as you quite often see that warning and you can buy "gas conditioners" to prevent it. They're actually Japanese, I think. Lots of "house brand" tools are identical to Ryobi. My 2-cycle mix runs the "Toro" (but built by Ryobi) strimmer and a Stihl chain saw, and is at least a year old. Never a problem with it, and it has gotten older than that in the past before I needed to make another 2-gallon batch. Fuel stabilizer isn't a bad idea for machines stored over winter, but I've never used it with the 2-cycle things. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
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On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:52:19 -0400, Gary Woods wrote:
Ryobi are American, They're actually Japanese, I think. You've made me dig. From http://www.ryobitools.com/community/about_us: "TTI's powerful brand portfolio includes Milwaukee®, AEG® and Ryobi® power tools and accessories, Ryobi® and Homelite® outdoor products, and Hoover®, Dirt Devil® and Vax® floor care appliances. Our products are distributed through major home centers and retailers, full-line tool distributors and other channels worldwide." The parent is Techtronic Industries Co. Ltd. listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange and a bit more digging on http://www.ttigroup.com, strongly indicates that the head office is in Hong Kong. The AGM and the following EGM to approve the issuance of about US$50 million in unlisted and unsecured convertable bonds in two phases was held in Hong Kong. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 8 jun, 00:03, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:52:19 -0400, Gary Woods wrote: Ryobi are American, They're actually Japanese, I think. * You've made me dig. Fromhttp://www.ryobitools.com/community/about_us: "TTI's powerful brand portfolio includes Milwaukee®, AEG® and Ryobi® power tools and accessories, Ryobi® and Homelite® outdoor products, and Hoover®, Dirt Devil® and Vax® floor care appliances. Our products are distributed through major home centers and retailers, full-line tool distributors and other channels worldwide." The parent is Techtronic Industries Co. Ltd. listed on the Hong Kong stock exchange and a bit more digging onhttp://www.ttigroup.com, strongly indicates that the head office is in Hong Kong. The AGM and the following EGM to approve the issuance of about US$50 million in unlisted and unsecured convertable bonds in two phases was held in Hong Kong. -- Cheers Dave. I fear this answer might get lost "among the trees" but here goes. Here in Belgium I buy Aspen fuel for 2-stroke engines. It is alkalyte petrol - whatever that means - and claims to be eco- and health- friendly. It also has the following advantages: it burns very clean with safe, almost odourless exhaust, it does not "decay" when left in the fuel tank or its own plastic container and, above all, even the most mis-used engines start when fueled with Aspen, spark plug and air filter are OK. The down-side is that it is rather expensive . . . Here's a UK link www.aaoil.co.uk PS I have no commercial axe to grind. |
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