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Mystery flowers
Thanks Sacha for the picture
Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f..._and_white.jpg I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. |
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On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill said:
Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f..._and_white.jpg I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) It's a weird one. At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming the flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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;-) It's a weird one. At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I
noticed the dying off petals at the base. There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming the flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Sorry Sacha there was no leaves, just a bunch of flowers and as you rightly assume they are now in the compost. The flowers were bought by my son for his mother so when I see him again I will ask from where they came and will go to said place armed with camera (assuming it's not too far, he travels quite long distances) Wally |
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On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill said: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...n=view¤t.... I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming the flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Ahem, my old eyes could be deceiving me, but somehow I don't think they are Dahlias or Chrysanthemums. There's one flower to the right showing some of the calyx or rather one or two sepals, which don't look anything like those of hybrid Dahlias and are too long for Chrysanths. I'll stick my neck out and suggest they may be Ranunculus. Wincing as I press send button .... ooouc... |
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On 2009-07-07 21:05:04 +0100, DaveP said:
On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill sa id: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...n=view¤t. .. I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming the flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Ahem, my old eyes could be deceiving me, but somehow I don't think they are Dahlias or Chrysanthemums. There's one flower to the right showing some of the calyx or rather one or two sepals, which don't look anything like those of hybrid Dahlias and are too long for Chrysanths. I'll stick my neck out and suggest they may be Ranunculus. Wincing as I press send button .... ooouc... ! Which one, David? I always think of those rather nice 'fat' ones with large petals when I think of Ranunculus. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 2009-07-07 21:03:30 +0100, "Wally" said:
;-) It's a weird one. At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming the flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Sorry Sacha there was no leaves, just a bunch of flowers and as you rightly assume they are now in the compost. The flowers were bought by my son for his mother so when I see him again I will ask from where they came and will go to said place armed with camera (assuming it's not too far, he travels quite long distances) Wally Yes, that would certainly help - ask him to buy her some more. ;-) Lovely thing to do. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill said: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...n=view¤t.... I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming th e flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Could it be Dahlia but put in a vase with red colouring? I know a florist who used to put colour in the water to give a different aspect to the flower?? Judith |
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On 2009-07-07 22:29:10 +0100, Judith in France
said: On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill sa id: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...n=view¤t. .. I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming th e flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Could it be Dahlia but put in a vase with red colouring? I know a florist who used to put colour in the water to give a different aspect to the flower?? Judith Could be. I remember at school seeing white carnations stood in blue ink to turn the flower blue. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On 7 July, 22:42, Sacha wrote:
On 2009-07-07 22:29:10 +0100, Judith in France said: On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill sa id: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...?action=view¤t. .. I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming th e flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Could it be Dahlia but put in a vase with red colouring? *I know a florist who used to put colour in the water to give a different aspect to the flower?? Judith Could be. *I remember at school seeing white *carnations stood in blue ink to turn the flower blue. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Standing the flowers in Dye tends to colour the whole flower, cutting immature flowers and leting them develop in water esp in poor light can result in the centres failing to develop their true colour. I still think Mid June is early for dahlias. David Hill |
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Sacha wrote:
*I'll stick my neck out and suggest they may be Ranunculus. *Wincing as I press send button .... *ooouc... ! Which one, David? *I always think of those rather nice 'fat' ones with large petals when I think of Ranunculus. I've seen variants of the hybrid R. asiaticum with narrow petals although they weren't as full as those in the pic. Maybe it isn't, but I've had a look at the calyx arrangement of several Dahlias since my last post and at no stage stage do the sepals appear free and open out as in the pic. They overlap to form a tube at the base of the petals and because of that I cannot see how those in the pic can be Dahlias, even if the petals suggest they are. |
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On Jul 7, 11:05*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On 7 July, 22:42, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 22:29:10 +0100, Judith in France said: On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill sa id: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysanth or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stems are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the other hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...?action=view¤t. .. I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assuming th e flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Could it be Dahlia but put in a vase with red colouring? *I know a florist who used to put colour in the water to give a different aspect to the flower?? Judith Could be. *I remember at school seeing white *carnations stood in blue ink to turn the flower blue. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Standing the flowers in Dye tends to colour the whole flower, cutting immature flowers and leting them develop in water esp in poor light can result in the centres failing to develop their true colour. I still think Mid June is early for dahlias. David Hill Mine are barely showing through the soil but this is normal for here, August is a good time here for Dahlia. Judith |
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On 2009-07-08 08:10:21 +0100, Judith in France
said: On Jul 7, 11:05*pm, Dave Hill wrote: On 7 July, 22:42, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 22:29:10 +0100, Judith in France said: On Jul 7, 7:35*pm, Sacha wrote: On 2009-07-07 18:45:47 +0100, Dave Hill k sa id: Thanks Sacha for the picture Like others I am sure that the flowers had been dyed, as to Chrysan th or dahlia then the best way to tell is by the stems, Chrysanth stem s are more woody than dahlia stems. I aminclined to think they were Chrysanths as it is a little early for dahlias, though there are some comming into flower, but on the othe r hand it is also a bit out of season for chrysanth blooms. I have posted the picture onto a dahlia site to see what comments I get from there. http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/f...?action=view¤t. .. I'll end now as it is getting uncomfortable sitting on this fence. David Hill Abacus Nurseries. ;-) *It's a weird one. *At first I thought 'silk flowers' until I noticed the dying off petals at the base. *There's authentic and there's ridiculous!! *If the OP can send a pic of a leaf - assumin g th e flowers aren't in the bin - that would help a lot. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon Could it be Dahlia but put in a vase with red colouring? *I know a florist who used to put colour in the water to give a different aspec t to the flower?? Judith Could be. *I remember at school seeing white *carnations stood in b lue ink to turn the flower blue. -- Sachawww.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Standing the flowers in Dye tends to colour the whole flower, cutting immature flowers and leting them develop in water esp in poor light can result in the centres failing to develop their true colour. I still think Mid June is early for dahlias. David Hill Mine are barely showing through the soil but this is normal for here, August is a good time here for Dahlia. Judith Our Dahlia excelsa (from David Hill) are up and growing very tall and are in flower. D. Engelhardt's Matador, which is the most fabulous colour with bronze foliage, is just about to flower and D. The Bishop of Llandaff is open and busily showing off in the long border. Even D. imperialis which goes to about 17' in the garden and more in the greenhouse, has a not-fully-grown cutting flowering in the greenhouse. Mind you, compared to yours, our winters are sub-tropical! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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snip Standing the flowers in Dye tends to colour the whole flower, cutting immature flowers and leting them develop in water esp in poor light can result in the centres failing to develop their true colour. I still think Mid June is early for dahlias. David Hill Mine are barely showing through the soil but this is normal for here, August is a good time here for Dahlia. Judith Our Dahlia excelsa (from David Hill) are up and growing very tall and are in flower. D. Engelhardt's Matador, which is the most fabulous colour with bronze foliage, is just about to flower and D. The Bishop of Llandaff is open and busily showing off in the long border. Even D. imperialis which goes to about 17' in the garden and more in the greenhouse, has a not-fully-grown cutting flowering in the greenhouse. Mind you, compared to yours, our winters are sub-tropical! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon I have to take care here cos I don't wish to offend anyone in suggesting that they came from the local supermarket, nothing wrong in that I like flowers wherever they come from. I had a bunch of similar flowers, they were plain white when fresh, I put them on a rather cool window sill and over a few days they changed colour and ended up with a pink tinge, I thought it was the cold which would not apply in this case but who knows what happens to these flowers before we buy them. kate |
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