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GW have lost the plot.
Gardeners' World these days is for armchair gardeners
not hands-on gardeners . Things started with Monty Don. He seems to have recovered nicely judging from his recent appearance on The One Show so I feel free to comment, but dear old Monty was to gardening what an art Historian is to Art - someone who appreciates but cannot do it himself.I used to wince at his digging efforts - raising his spade high into the air then driving it down at the soil. It's a wonder he has any toes left . He would also straddle a trench instead if getting into it - a sure way to a double hernia or a slipped disc. When it came to Great Gardens of the World he was a Master. His encyclopedic knowledge enabled him to discuss on equal terms with the Great and the Good in the world of horticulture Definitely armchair viewing and very good to. His successors have followed in the same vein. But where are the Geoff Hamiltons and the Anne Swithinbanks and their ilk these days? People who simply wished to teach. With Geoff I felt he was in my garden with me,(and he always had his ' little project for the week'). while Ann, an ingenuous girl who never aspired to Garden Goddess status, all she wanted to do was teach, was most painstaking in her demonstrations Many others of the old school left a legacy which has been ignored. Each year there must be many thousands of newbies who have got their first garden , people wo do not know the rudiments of gardening who would appreciate an introduction to hands on gardening from hands on tutors. I have cultivated my modest garden for 58 years and I'm still learning. Auntie Beeb has let us down. Sam |
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GW have lost the plot.
"sam" wrote in message om... Gardeners' World these days is for armchair gardeners not hands-on gardeners . Things started with Monty Don. He seems to have recovered nicely judging from his recent appearance on The One Show so I feel free to comment, but dear old Monty was to gardening what an art Historian is to Art - someone who appreciates but cannot do it himself.I used to wince at his digging efforts - raising his spade high into the air then driving it down at the soil. It's a wonder he has any toes left . He would also straddle a trench instead if getting into it - a sure way to a double hernia or a slipped disc. When it came to Great Gardens of the World he was a Master. His encyclopedic knowledge enabled him to discuss on equal terms with the Great and the Good in the world of horticulture Definitely armchair viewing and very good to. His successors have followed in the same vein. But where are the Geoff Hamiltons and the Anne Swithinbanks and their ilk these days? People who simply wished to teach. With Geoff I felt he was in my garden with me,(and he always had his ' little project for the week'). while Ann, an ingenuous girl who never aspired to Garden Goddess status, all she wanted to do was teach, was most painstaking in her demonstrations Many others of the old school left a legacy which has been ignored. Each year there must be many thousands of newbies who have got their first garden , people wo do not know the rudiments of gardening who would appreciate an introduction to hands on gardening from hands on tutors. I have cultivated my modest garden for 58 years and I'm still learning. Auntie Beeb has let us down. Sam I'll agree with all of that but regret that I think GW has had it's time and should be laid to rest. There are so many other better channels of information available 24/7 and active gardening groups which allow real face to face contact. There is nothing difficult about ordinary gardening which is probably why it is supposedly the No 1 hobby in the UK and once you wish to go beyond the ordinary plants GW could never be expected to succeed. I can remember getting bored by the programme when I was a very young kid-I mean how many times do I need to see Percy Thrower demonstrate bloody Geranium cuttings:-) |
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GW have lost the plot.
On 24 Oct, 19:00, "rupert" wrote:
"sam" wrote in message om... Gardeners' World these days is for armchair gardeners not hands-on gardeners . Things started with Monty Don. He seems to have recovered nicely judging from his recent appearance on The One Show so I feel free to comment, but dear old Monty was to gardening what an art Historian is to Art - someone who appreciates but cannot do it himself.I used to wince at his digging efforts - raising his spade high into the air then driving it down at the soil. It's a wonder he has any toes left . He would also straddle a trench instead if getting into it - a sure way to a double hernia or a slipped disc. When it came to Great Gardens of the World he was a Master. His encyclopedic knowledge *enabled him to discuss *on equal terms with the Great and the Good in the world of horticulture Definitely armchair viewing and very good to. His successors have followed in the same vein. But where are the Geoff Hamiltons and the Anne Swithinbanks and their ilk these days? People who simply wished to teach. With Geoff *I felt he was in my garden with me,(and he always had his ' little project for the week'). while Ann, an ingenuous girl who never aspired to Garden Goddess status, all she wanted to do was teach, was most painstaking in her demonstrations Many others of the old school left a legacy which has been ignored. Each year there must be many thousands of newbies who have got their first garden , people wo do not know the rudiments of gardening who would appreciate an introduction to hands on gardening from hands on tutors. I have cultivated my modest garden for 58 years and I'm still learning. Auntie Beeb has let us down. Sam I'll agree with all of that but regret that I think GW has had it's time and should be laid to rest. There are so many other better channels of information available 24/7 and active gardening groups which allow real face to face contact. There is nothing difficult about ordinary gardening which is probably why it is supposedly the No 1 hobby in the UK and once you wish to go beyond the ordinary plants GW could never be expected to succeed. I can remember getting bored by the programme when I was a very young kid-I mean how many times do I need to see Percy Thrower demonstrate bloody Geranium cuttings:-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'd like to see a total change and have Carol Klein as the presenter, geting away from the present mish mash of people who may be good gardeners but havn't the personality to carry the prog. This jumping from person to person, and stupid things like the 30 min. fix, it looked more like something from CBeebies. David Hill |
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On Oct 24, 7:46*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On 24 Oct, 19:00, "rupert" wrote: "sam" wrote in message news:rNKdnXFhJfe5pn7XnZ2dnUVZ8oSdnZ2d@brightview. com... Gardeners' World these days is for armchair gardeners not hands-on gardeners . Things started with Monty Don. He seems to have recovered nicely judging from his recent appearance on The One Show so I feel free to comment, but dear old Monty was to gardening what an art Historian is to Art - someone who appreciates but cannot do it himself.I used to wince at his digging efforts - raising his spade high into the air then driving it down at the soil. It's a wonder he has any toes left . He would also straddle a trench instead if getting into it - a sure way to a double hernia or a slipped disc. When it came to Great Gardens of the World he was a Master. His encyclopedic knowledge *enabled him to discuss *on equal terms with the Great and the Good in the world of horticulture Definitely armchair viewing and very good to. His successors have followed in the same vein. But where are the Geoff Hamiltons and the Anne Swithinbanks and their ilk these days? People who simply wished to teach. With Geoff *I felt he was in my garden with me,(and he always had his ' little project for the week'). while Ann, an ingenuous girl who never aspired to Garden Goddess status, all she wanted to do was teach, was most painstaking in her demonstrations Many others of the old school left a legacy which has been ignored. Each year there must be many thousands of newbies who have got their first garden , people wo do not know the rudiments of gardening who would appreciate an introduction to hands on gardening from hands on tutors. I have cultivated my modest garden for 58 years and I'm still learning. Auntie Beeb has let us down. Sam I'll agree with all of that but regret that I think GW has had it's time and should be laid to rest. There are so many other better channels of information available 24/7 and active gardening groups which allow real face to face contact. There is nothing difficult about ordinary gardening which is probably why it is supposedly the No 1 hobby in the UK and once you wish to go beyond the ordinary plants GW could never be expected to succeed. I can remember getting bored by the programme when I was a very young kid-I mean how many times do I need to see Percy Thrower demonstrate bloody Geranium cuttings:-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'd like to see a total change and have Carol Klein Is she the one with the rather distracting wolfish voice that suggests she's already smoked about 50 ciggs, and that was just before breakfast? as the presenter, geting away from the present mish mash of people who may be good gardeners but havn't the personality to carry the prog. This jumping from person to person, and stupid things like the 30 min. fix, it looked more like something from CBeebies. David Hill |
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GW have lost the plot.
"aquachimp" wrote in message news:5a306bf2-ab89-4f21-8a3e- When it came to I'd like to see a total change and have Carol Klein Is she the one with the rather distracting wolfish voice that suggests she's already smoked about 50 ciggs, and that was just before breakfast? as the presenter, geting away from the present mish mash of people who may be good gardeners but havn't the personality to carry the prog. This jumping from person to person, and stupid things like the 30 min. fix, it looked more like something from CBeebies. That's the one - sounds as though she is sucking a plum ex Chorley way. Dreadful noise ! Give me good old West country Percy with his geranium cuttings anyday. Lovely tone and watchable ad infinitem ! Regards Pete www.thecanalshop.com |
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GW have lost the plot.
Martin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:27:53 -0000, "Pete Stockdale" wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message news:5a306bf2-ab89-4f21-8a3e- When it came to I'd like to see a total change and have Carol Klein Is she the one with the rather distracting wolfish voice that suggests she's already smoked about 50 ciggs, and that was just before breakfast? That's the one - sounds as though she is sucking a plum ex Chorley way. Dreadful noise ! Give me good old West Country Percy with his geranium cuttings anyday. Lovely tone and watchable ad infinitem ! I caught a bit of GW the other day where they dug up a clump of something for overwintering and then said take off such and such and proceded to do that stage insde one of those rubber/plasic buckets where the camera, and therefore the viewers, couldn't see it GRRRRRRRR Maybe they should shift GW to BBC 4, the channel for those who don't suffer from attention deficit and with average intelligence. Also the channel where you get the same programmes twice. Once at a normal time then repeated for insomniacs. -- Phil Cook http://www.therewaslight.co.uk |
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GW have lost the plot.
On 2009-10-25 14:05:19 +0000, Phil Cook said:
snip I caught a bit of GW the other day where they dug up a clump of something for overwintering and then said take off such and such and proceded to do that stage insde one of those rubber/plasic buckets where the camera, and therefore the viewers, couldn't see it GRRRRRRRR Ray's reaction to that bit was "why not cut off the top growth and *then* dig the thing up, making it much easier to find the roots". snip -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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GW have lost the plot.
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-10-25 14:05:19 +0000, Phil Cook said: snip I caught a bit of GW the other day where they dug up a clump of something for overwintering and then said take off such and such and proceded to do that stage insde one of those rubber/plasic buckets where the camera, and therefore the viewers, couldn't see it GRRRRRRRR Ray's reaction to that bit was "why not cut off the top growth and *then* dig the thing up, making it much easier to find the roots". snip -- Sacha I trust either Ray or Yourself have been in touch with Chris Denham as suggested, so that between you, you can produce a series of Gardening Programmes 'How it should be done'? -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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GW have lost the plot.
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:37:19 +0100, Martin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:16:56 +0000, Sacha wrote: On 2009-10-25 14:05:19 +0000, Phil Cook said: snip I caught a bit of GW the other day where they dug up a clump of something for overwintering and then said take off such and such and proceded to do that stage insde one of those rubber/plasic buckets where the camera, and therefore the viewers, couldn't see it GRRRRRRRR Ray's reaction to that bit was "why not cut off the top growth and *then* dig the thing up, making it much easier to find the roots". snip Which reminds me ... The husband of my daughter's neighbour cut the back half off my daughter's hedge rather than the top half which my daughter had agreed to remove. As long as he didn't cut off the bottom half! Pam in Bristol |
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GW have lost the plot.
"Martin" wrote in message
... Why aren't BBC 3 &4 on during the afternoon? -- Because during the day the same two channels are used for the BBC childrens' programmes. There isn't enough bandwidth available for both purposes, so they are time-shared. BTW There is nothing special about what is happening to GW. It is the same dumbing-down process being applied to most programmes on most channels. |
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GW have lost the plot.
It is the same dumbing-down process being applied to most programmes on most channels. Perhaps we're all being Americanised. mark |
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