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On 16 Nov, 18:39, "Spider" wrote:
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Spider wrote:

Incidentally, I have also grown the hardy types - C. hederifoium and
C.coum - from seed (intentionally, rather than by accident!) with great
success. I have a terrific C.hederifolium with truly gorgeous leaves,
and
the tuber is now the size of a small saucer. Masses of flower. I can
recommend it most enthusiastically to anyone who loves cyclamen, but
resents
the cost of a flowering-size tuber. Fresh seed is best, but I started
with
bought dried seed, so it is do-able.

Oh, yes - and, if they like the position, they will naturalise into
a carpet. I have such a carpet in a bed that is in the rain shadow
of the eaves - few weeds grow, but the C. coum loves it. They will
also grow under conifers, where few other things will.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Yes, I have found that, too, Nick. They're little treasures. They don't
seem to take *too* long from seed to flowering size, either .. although
there's only one or two flowers to start with. Quite enough to get one
hooked, I find :~)

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If anybody wants good hardy cyclamen, in good condition at reasonable
prices, they could do much worse than Anne & Les Cordes at
http://www.hederifolium.co.uk/
They're nice people to deal with as well. Sadly for the moment demand
has outstripped supply and they're only offering C. hederifolium at
present 'til they've rebuilt their stocks of the other species.

Rod

Thanks, Rod. Added that one to my list :~)

Spider

If anybody wants good hardy cyclamen, in good condition at reasonable
prices, they could do much worse than Anne & Les Cordes at
http://www.hederifolium.co.uk/
They're nice people to deal with as well. Sadly for the moment demand
has outstripped supply and they're only offering C. hederifolium at
present 'til they've rebuilt their stocks of the other species.

Rod

Thanks, Rod. Added that one to my list :~)

Spider




Is there an easy way to tell if a cyclamen is hardy or non-hardy without the
frost-test.
I've recently planted up 20 in large pots.


mark

mark writes
Is there an easy way to tell if a cyclamen is hardy or non-hardy
without the
frost-test.
I've recently planted up 20 in large pots.

If it's large, it's indoor only.

If it's small:
If it's just labelled 'cyclamen', it probably will not survive the
winter outside, although they can survive quite a long time in the
middle of cities in the S of England. Similarly if you bought them in a
bedding plant-style pack of 6.

If it's labelled 'Cyclamen hederifolium' or 'Cyclamen coum', it's hardy.

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Kay

"K" wrote in message
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mark writes
Is there an easy way to tell if a cyclamen is hardy or non-hardy without
the
frost-test.
I've recently planted up 20 in large pots.

If it's large, it's indoor only.

If it's small:
If it's just labelled 'cyclamen', it probably will not survive the winter
outside, although they can survive quite a long time in the middle of
cities in the S of England. Similarly if you bought them in a bedding
plant-style pack of 6.

If it's labelled 'Cyclamen hederifolium' or 'Cyclamen coum', it's hardy.



Oh dear!

No labels.
Some came from a car boot, 4/£3
The rest from a plant auction, held every Monday.
Some have quite small flowers, the rest slightly bigger flowers. The large
plants with large flowers, I didn't get, as they were going for £1.50 each,
way too pricey
for me!


mark

mark

On 2009-11-19 23:19:05 +0000, "mark" said:


"K" wrote in message
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mark writes
Is there an easy way to tell if a cyclamen is hardy or non-hardy without
the
frost-test.
I've recently planted up 20 in large pots.

If it's large, it's indoor only.

If it's small:
If it's just labelled 'cyclamen', it probably will not survive the winter
outside, although they can survive quite a long time in the middle of
cities in the S of England. Similarly if you bought them in a bedding
plant-style pack of 6.

If it's labelled 'Cyclamen hederifolium' or 'Cyclamen coum', it's hardy.



Oh dear!

No labels.
Some came from a car boot, 4/£3
The rest from a plant auction, held every Monday.
Some have quite small flowers, the rest slightly bigger flowers. The large
plants with large flowers, I didn't get, as they were going for £1.50 each,
way too pricey
for me!

If you do a Google image search on the species Kay mentioned, you might
get an idea from the leaves and flowers there. It sounds as if you've
bought garden ones if the flowers are small.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics.
South Devon

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Sacha wrote:

If you do a Google image search on the species Kay mentioned, you might
get an idea from the leaves and flowers there. It sounds as if you've
bought garden ones if the flowers are small.

Small flowered C. persica ones are quite common, too, and those are
the ones that are NOT hardy.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

writes
In article ,
Sacha wrote:

If you do a Google image search on the species Kay mentioned, you might
get an idea from the leaves and flowers there. It sounds as if you've
bought garden ones if the flowers are small.

Small flowered C. persica ones are quite common, too, and those are
the ones that are NOT hardy.

Yes, that's what my best guess would be. They're all over the garden
centres a this time of year as they make good early winter container
plants, but where I am they die off as it gets really cold and wet
during january. In London they seem to survive all winter in
windowboxes.
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Kay

On 2009-11-20 11:29:18 +0000, said:

In article ,
Sacha wrote:

If you do a Google image search on the species Kay mentioned, you might
get an idea from the leaves and flowers there. It sounds as if you've
bought garden ones if the flowers are small.

Small flowered C. persica ones are quite common, too, and those are
the ones that are NOT hardy.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Very good point, Nick. The image search might help to pin that down.
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Sacha

Hi Mark, do your cyclamen have scented flowers, if so they could be Cyclamen
'Miracle' which is a dwarf, hardy (certainly down here in Cornwall) variety of which I sell a couple or three thousand every year at boot sales (£1 each or any 6 for £5) they start flowering in August and are often still in flower in April, and yes they are very prone to the dreaded vine weevil. I might add that I don't grow them, I buy them in from a local nursery in flower and they always give me a superb end to my plant selling season.
Best Wishes Lannerman.