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its own things for years and years before man set foot on the Planet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8O-E_GN0Kg -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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says... .... believe in all this Global warming crap when the world has been doing its own things for years and years before man set foot on the Planet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8O-E_GN0Kg What is it you don't believe, that the world is warming, or that people are responsible? I find it hard to believe that anyone could think a warming cycle is not in progress. So I am guessing you think its natural (despite the doubling of C02 in the atmosphere since I learnt the percentages at school) But then I once sailed with a fully paid up member of the Flat Earth society, the fact that as the ships navigator I relied on the Earth being round and used sperical trigonometry every day to determine our position was waved aside just like your arguments against global warming being manmade with nonsense science and dubious math. Unlike the polititions however I believe that it would be a lot better to reverse the rise in the worlds population drastically which is something we can do cheaply! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message What is it you don't believe, that the world is warming, or that people are responsible? The latter. 'Helping it along' as well if you like I find it hard to believe that anyone could think a warming cycle is not in progress. So I am guessing you think its natural (despite the doubling of C02 in the atmosphere since I learnt the percentages at school) The last Ice Age is passing away, therefore if the cold is going, what is coming to replace it? Global Warming. Climate Change. Happening all the time over many many MANY Thousands of years. Come back in 100,000 years and what will you find? CHANGE :-)) Change in everything. Will man be here? .................................................. ................. Kind regards -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
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Pridham writes So I am guessing you think its natural (despite the doubling of C02 in the atmosphere since I learnt the percentages at school) It hasn't doubled yet. The current level is about 385 ppm, up from 315 ppm 50 years ago. The pre-industrial level is around 280 ppm. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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"'Mike'" wrote ... .... believe in all this Global warming crap when the world has been doing its own things for years and years before man set foot on the Planet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8O-E_GN0Kg Certainly I believe in global warming, as a old gardener the evidence from my own garden is beyond dispute. The fact that we, man, have increased the CO2 content of the atmosphere significantly from the background level and also that gas acts like a blanket and causes warming is also beyond doubt. The current speed of warming is also unprecedented if I understand the figures correctly. My conclusion is that man is responsible for a proportion of the warming and that proportion will rise as we pump more CO2 into the atmosphere. My problem is with the politicians and their Tax policies. More CO2 is put into the atmosphere from Central Heating than cars, so why are they taxing cars on CO2 and not Central Heating? (or planes for that matter, they put the pollution directly in the worst place too) Most of the CO2 caused by a car is in it's manufacture, the scrappage scheme increases CO2! The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Each man should be allowed to father two children and each woman give birth to two children, ie 2 kids per couple, so the population slowly reduces due to illness, death before childbirth etc. Any more children and the state ignores them for benefit purposes, if a woman refuses to state the father it is also ignored for benefit purposes. Current rules about looking after children would still apply which might increase the number of children forced to be put up for adoption. It's quite easy really and would change a lot of things for the better. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:09:37 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote: "'Mike'" wrote ... .... believe in all this Global warming crap when the world has been doing its own things for years and years before man set foot on the Planet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8O-E_GN0Kg Certainly I believe in global warming, as a old gardener the evidence from my own garden is beyond dispute. The fact that we, man, have increased the CO2 content of the atmosphere significantly from the background level and also that gas acts like a blanket and causes warming is also beyond doubt. The current speed of warming is also unprecedented if I understand the figures correctly. My conclusion is that man is responsible for a proportion of the warming and that proportion will rise as we pump more CO2 into the atmosphere. My problem is with the politicians and their Tax policies. More CO2 is put into the atmosphere from Central Heating than cars, so why are they taxing cars on CO2 and not Central Heating? Cars are not essential. Most people in Northern Europe need to heat their homes. (or planes for that matter, they put the pollution directly in the worst place too the total for every plane in the world is 4% Stop heating green houses with natural gas? Stop air freighting plants and flowers from the tropics? Why stop airfreighting stuff when the total for every plane is only 4%? -- Martin |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from Martin contains these words: Cars are not essential. Most people in Northern Europe need to heat their homes. However, very few of us need to heat every room in the home at once. My prediction is that future generations will regard our generations' whole-house, empty room, absent-occupants heating habits and single-occupancy of vehicles, in the same light, as epidemic obesity and the throw-away society. A thoughtless greedy waste of finite resources, and the first and worst victims of it will be our own children. Unfortunately some of us have only one person to drive anywhere, like me! Janet |
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The from "Bob contains these words: The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Hardly! The Chinese policy has led to the killing of many unwanted girl children. Within one generation, it has led to a serious social imbalance (too many males, not enough partners for them); and there is also concern, among the Chinese, for the future social consequences of so many only-child males who have been spoiled rotten and brought up to think they are the centre of the universe. Janet Yes, of course I believe scientists. In the 1930s the human race was going to the dogs, because of bad breeding, as a result politicians of many countries took steps to stop it. Including the USA as well as Hitler's lot. Then in the 1970s the scientists predicted that a mini ice age was upon us. All those predictions, have with time, been proved, whether right or wrong I will leave you, dear reader, to decide. -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. |
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writes Janet Baraclough wrote: The from "Bob contains these words: The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Hardly! The Chinese policy has led to the killing of many unwanted girl children. Within one generation, it has led to a serious social imbalance (too many males, not enough partners for them); and there is also concern, among the Chinese, for the future social consequences of so many only-child males who have been spoiled rotten and brought up to think they are the centre of the universe. Janet Yes, of course I believe scientists. In the 1930s the human race was going to the dogs, because of bad breeding, as a result politicians of many countries took steps to stop it. Including the USA as well as Hitler's lot. Then in the 1970s the scientists predicted that a mini ice age was upon us. All those predictions, have with time, been proved, whether right or wrong I will leave you, dear reader, to decide. Actually, that is a myth. The (then weak) consensus in the scientific press, rather than the popular media, was for warming. http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...lobal-cooling- myth/ -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
Then in the 1970s the scientists predicted that a mini ice age was upon us. All those predictions, have with time, been proved, whether right or wrong I will leave you, dear reader, to decide. Actually, that is a myth. The (then weak) consensus in the scientific press, rather than the popular media, was for warming. http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...lobal-cooling- myth/ It depends what time-scale you are talking about. I think most people that have looked into the matter believe that we are currently in an inter-glacial period, and are likely to enter a new ice-age within thousands of years. That doesn't conflict in any way with the belief that the earth is currently warming due to human activity. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote "Bob Hobden" contains these words: The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Hardly! The Chinese policy has led to the killing of many unwanted girl children. Within one generation, it has led to a serious social imbalance (too many males, not enough partners for them); and there is also concern, among the Chinese, for the future social consequences of so many only-child males who have been spoiled rotten and brought up to think they are the centre of the universe. That is because the Chinese, like a lot of countries believe that male heirs are the most important thing in their lives and they will just have to get over it or die out. Certainly, as it's going, there will be an even bigger reduction in people in China as there simply won't be the ladies to have the next generation. All good stuff for the environment IMO. As for spoiling their male heirs rotten and bringing them up like Gods, happens already with a number of peoples, Chinese, Indians, even some ethnic English families do it. Obviously a throwback but people will get over it eventually, they will have to. So often when I was at work the Indian ladies would say, "my husband does nothing in the house", to which I would reply "so what are you teaching your son and making him do? Ironing? Cooking? Cleaning? etc". To a person they just continued to perpetuate the problem. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Janet Baraclough" wrote "Bob Hobden" contains these words: The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Hardly! The Chinese policy has led to the killing of many unwanted girl children. Within one generation, it has led to a serious social imbalance (too many males, not enough partners for them); and there is also concern, among the Chinese, for the future social consequences of so many only-child males who have been spoiled rotten and brought up to think they are the centre of the universe. That is because the Chinese, like a lot of countries believe that male heirs are the most important thing in their lives and they will just have to get over it or die out. Certainly, as it's going, there will be an even bigger reduction in people in China as there simply won't be the ladies to have the next generation. All good stuff for the environment IMO. As for spoiling their male heirs rotten and bringing them up like Gods, happens already with a number of peoples, Chinese, Indians, even some ethnic English families do it. Obviously a throwback but people will get over it eventually, they will have to. So often when I was at work the Indian ladies would say, "my husband does nothing in the house", to which I would reply "so what are you teaching your son and making him do? Ironing? Cooking? Cleaning? etc". To a person they just continued to perpetuate the problem. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK If it's getting warmer in this country, why do so many pensioners die of hyperthermia? |
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:16:14 -0000, "Lofty"
wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Janet Baraclough" wrote "Bob Hobden" contains these words: The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Hardly! The Chinese policy has led to the killing of many unwanted girl children. Within one generation, it has led to a serious social imbalance (too many males, not enough partners for them); and there is also concern, among the Chinese, for the future social consequences of so many only-child males who have been spoiled rotten and brought up to think they are the centre of the universe. That is because the Chinese, like a lot of countries believe that male heirs are the most important thing in their lives and they will just have to get over it or die out. Certainly, as it's going, there will be an even bigger reduction in people in China as there simply won't be the ladies to have the next generation. All good stuff for the environment IMO. As for spoiling their male heirs rotten and bringing them up like Gods, happens already with a number of peoples, Chinese, Indians, even some ethnic English families do it. Obviously a throwback but people will get over it eventually, they will have to. So often when I was at work the Indian ladies would say, "my husband does nothing in the house", to which I would reply "so what are you teaching your son and making him do? Ironing? Cooking? Cleaning? etc". To a person they just continued to perpetuate the problem. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK If it's getting warmer in this country, why do so many pensioners die of hyperthermia? I'm sure you meant hypothermia, didn't you? There is a difference you know -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
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"®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:16:14 -0000, "Lofty" wrote: "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Janet Baraclough" wrote "Bob Hobden" contains these words: The root cause of CO2 is population, so why are we in this Country still paying people to have children? ( the Chinese alone are doing something about this and should be applauded) Hardly! The Chinese policy has led to the killing of many unwanted girl children. Within one generation, it has led to a serious social imbalance (too many males, not enough partners for them); and there is also concern, among the Chinese, for the future social consequences of so many only-child males who have been spoiled rotten and brought up to think they are the centre of the universe. That is because the Chinese, like a lot of countries believe that male heirs are the most important thing in their lives and they will just have to get over it or die out. Certainly, as it's going, there will be an even bigger reduction in people in China as there simply won't be the ladies to have the next generation. All good stuff for the environment IMO. As for spoiling their male heirs rotten and bringing them up like Gods, happens already with a number of peoples, Chinese, Indians, even some ethnic English families do it. Obviously a throwback but people will get over it eventually, they will have to. So often when I was at work the Indian ladies would say, "my husband does nothing in the house", to which I would reply "so what are you teaching your son and making him do? Ironing? Cooking? Cleaning? etc". To a person they just continued to perpetuate the problem. -- Regards Bob Hobden W.of London. UK If it's getting warmer in this country, why do so many pensioners die of hyperthermia? I'm sure you meant hypothermia, didn't you? There is a difference you know Please do not be so bloody pedantic! -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:16:14 -0000, "Lofty"
wrote: If it's getting warmer in this country, why do so many pensioners die of hyperthermia? So how many persioners die of hyperthermia? I don't think any do unless they get trapped in a Turkish Bath. |
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