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I have two Ceanothus shrubs, the leaves on both of which have turned
completely brown. Are they probably dead, presumably because of the cold,
or is there anything that likely can be done to save them?


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I have two Ceanothus shrubs, the leaves on both of which have turned
completely brown. Are they probably dead, presumably because of the cold,
or is there anything that likely can be done to save them?

Be patient. Many shrubs will produce new shoots from the wood when the
weather warms up, include some which are less hardy than Ceanothus.
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:07:31 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote:

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from "Syke" contains these words:

I have two Ceanothus shrubs, the leaves on both of which have turned
completely brown. Are they probably dead, presumably because of the cold,
or is there anything that likely can be done to save them?


Wait and see. I have two; the prostrate one has been badly browned a
(it's in a low, sheltered corner of the garden where freezing air
collects and covers the bush).
I shall give it until at least June to see if it puts out new growth.
The tall one ( "Italian Skies", I think) is completely exposed to icy
east wind from Siberia but is unharmed, leaves green. That gives me
hope that the stems of the prostrate one have also withstood the cold
of this winter and it's just the leaves that have been damaged

Janet


GQT said that they are VERY short lived. Mine lasted less than 10 years, my husbands' one
is hanging on after 17 yrs. They were both the same variety.

What do other people think? Is this true?

Kath
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:32:28 +0000, Kath
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:07:31 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote:

The message
from "Syke" contains these words:

I have two Ceanothus shrubs, the leaves on both of which have turned
completely brown. Are they probably dead, presumably because of the cold,
or is there anything that likely can be done to save them?


Wait and see. I have two; the prostrate one has been badly browned a
(it's in a low, sheltered corner of the garden where freezing air
collects and covers the bush).
I shall give it until at least June to see if it puts out new growth.
The tall one ( "Italian Skies", I think) is completely exposed to icy
east wind from Siberia but is unharmed, leaves green. That gives me
hope that the stems of the prostrate one have also withstood the cold
of this winter and it's just the leaves that have been damaged

Janet


GQT said that they are VERY short lived. Mine lasted less than 10 years, my husbands' one
is hanging on after 17 yrs. They were both the same variety.

What do other people think? Is this true?

Kath


How short is short? There is a Ceanothus in my garden that was already
fully grown when I moved in. That was 25 years ago so I would think
the Ceanothus is at least 30 years old. I've no idea which species it
is. It's deciduous, blue flowers and shiny leaves.

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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:32:28 +0000, Kath
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 00:07:31 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote:

The message
from "Syke" contains these words:

I have two Ceanothus shrubs, the leaves on both of which have turned
completely brown. Are they probably dead, presumably because of the cold,
or is there anything that likely can be done to save them?

Wait and see. I have two; the prostrate one has been badly browned a
(it's in a low, sheltered corner of the garden where freezing air
collects and covers the bush).
I shall give it until at least June to see if it puts out new growth.
The tall one ( "Italian Skies", I think) is completely exposed to icy
east wind from Siberia but is unharmed, leaves green. That gives me
hope that the stems of the prostrate one have also withstood the cold
of this winter and it's just the leaves that have been damaged

Janet


GQT said that they are VERY short lived. Mine lasted less than 10 years, my husbands' one
is hanging on after 17 yrs. They were both the same variety.

What do other people think? Is this true?

Kath


How short is short? There is a Ceanothus in my garden that was already
fully grown when I moved in. That was 25 years ago so I would think
the Ceanothus is at least 30 years old. I've no idea which species it
is. It's deciduous, blue flowers and shiny leaves.

Steve


I would say 10-15 years is average, being a chapperal plant from
california they would normally be burnt by fire before that age!

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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:47:02 +0000, Sacha wrote:

On 2010-03-07 12:06:35 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
said:

On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:32:28 +0000, Kath
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GQT said that they are VERY short lived. Mine lasted less than 10
years, my husbands' one
is hanging on after 17 yrs. They were both the same variety.

What do other people think? Is this true?

Kath


How short is short? There is a Ceanothus in my garden that was already
fully grown when I moved in. That was 25 years ago so I would think
the Ceanothus is at least 30 years old. I've no idea which species it
is. It's deciduous, blue flowers and shiny leaves.

Steve


They don't like being cut back hard, so perhaps that has somehow
shortened some lives?


Mine just gets a trim. The dead flowers are removed by trimming down
to the next branch junction. That often results in more flowers. It is
about ten foot high.

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They don't like being cut back hard, so perhaps that has somehow
shortened some lives?



Speaking of which, how do you train a ceanothus that's growing away from
a hedge over a path? It's not shaded by the hedge but it is rapidly
growing forwards rather than more upright. It's not the prostrate one
and only about 5 years old.
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Tie it to a post? I seem to have experience of them being very
rambunctious and ready to take on the universe!



Not sure that would look too artistic! I wondered if i could cut the
most annoying branches back a bit or would you get a lot of die back
with this shrub?
It's got a lot of growth anyway, so it wouldn't look too unbalanced,
however most books say not to prune ceanothus, is that because those
branches won't regrow or because something more dire will happen?

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