All UK stock must be removed from shops by the end of 30/5/10.

So if you use this product (I do and love it) then get some quick.

"Racquel Darrian" .(y)uk wrote in message
...
All UK stock must be removed from shops by the end of 30/5/10.

So if you use this product (I do and love it) then get some quick.

You can still use it until 31/05/11.

Looks like it's supply of the bifenthrin insecticide component which has
been revoked; the myclobutanil fungicide component is still available under
several names. In fact, the supply revocation affects all pyrethrins.

--

Jeff

Jeff Layman wrote:
"Racquel Darrian" .(y)uk wrote in
message ...
All UK stock must be removed from shops by the end of 30/5/10.

So if you use this product (I do and love it) then get some quick.

You can still use it until 31/05/11.

Looks like it's supply of the bifenthrin insecticide component which
has been revoked; the myclobutanil fungicide component is still
available under several names. In fact, the supply revocation
affects all pyrethrins.

It seems that basically they're gradually banning every useful chemical
discovered since woad, to turn us all "organic" whether we like it or not. I
know these sandal wearers mean well, but so did Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

Some day soon we're going to have to "round up" the lot of them and shoot
them, aren't we?



Ian

"Ian B" wrote in message
...
Jeff Layman wrote:
"Racquel Darrian" .(y)uk wrote in
message ...
All UK stock must be removed from shops by the end of 30/5/10.

So if you use this product (I do and love it) then get some quick.

You can still use it until 31/05/11.

Looks like it's supply of the bifenthrin insecticide component which
has been revoked; the myclobutanil fungicide component is still
available under several names. In fact, the supply revocation
affects all pyrethrins.

It seems that basically they're gradually banning every useful chemical
discovered since woad, to turn us all "organic" whether we like it or not.
I know these sandal wearers mean well, but so did Hitler, Stalin and Pol
Pot.

Some day soon we're going to have to "round up" the lot of them and shoot
them, aren't we?



Ian


I think Glyph sate will come under the hammer one day soon. Luckily I have
quite a stock of Rose Clear 3 and Sodium Chlorate to keep me going in my
garden.

On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:

"Ian B" wrote in message
...
Jeff Layman wrote:
"Racquel Darrian" .(y)uk wrote in
message ...
All UK stock must be removed from shops by the end of 30/5/10.

So if you use this product (I do and love it) then get some quick.

You can still use it until 31/05/11.

Looks like it's supply of the bifenthrin insecticide component which
has been revoked; the myclobutanil fungicide component is still
available under several names. In fact, the supply revocation
affects all pyrethrins.

It seems that basically they're gradually banning every useful
chemical discovered since woad, to turn us all "organic" whether we
like it or not. I know these sandal wearers mean well, but so did
Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

Some day soon we're going to have to "round up" the lot of them and
shoot them, aren't we?



Ian


I think Glyph sate will come under the hammer one day soon.

because?


Luckily I
have quite a stock of Rose Clear 3 and Sodium Chlorate to keep me going
in my garden.

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:

"Ian B" wrote in message
...
Jeff Layman wrote:
"Racquel Darrian" .(y)uk wrote in
message ...
All UK stock must be removed from shops by the end of 30/5/10.

So if you use this product (I do and love it) then get some quick.

You can still use it until 31/05/11.

Looks like it's supply of the bifenthrin insecticide component which
has been revoked; the myclobutanil fungicide component is still
available under several names. In fact, the supply revocation
affects all pyrethrins.

It seems that basically they're gradually banning every useful
chemical discovered since woad, to turn us all "organic" whether we
like it or not. I know these sandal wearers mean well, but so did
Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot.

Some day soon we're going to have to "round up" the lot of them and
shoot them, aren't we?



Ian


I think Glyph sate will come under the hammer one day soon.

because?


Luckily I
have quite a stock of Rose Clear 3 and Sodium Chlorate to keep me going
in my garden.

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.

" wrote in message
...
On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:
(snip)

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.


There are many ordinary household chemicals used to unblock drains which do
the same thing, a lot more quickly, effectively, and _very_ permanently.
And they have come onto the market in the last few years!

The reason that most of these pesticides are banned is lack of information.
Many tests are required to show that they cause no, or minimal and
acceptable, harm, even if they have been on sale for years. Anecdotal
"proof" of harmlessness is not acceptable to the Regulatory Authorities; the
tests have to be done in a specific way, which is very expensive to perform.
The profit from older products (such as Rose Clear 3) will be less than it
costs to do these tests, so the manufacturers are caught, as our American
friends say "Between a rock and a hard place". That is the way most of
these products are forced off the market.

--

Jeff

On 31/05/10 18:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:
(snip)

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.


There are many ordinary household chemicals used to unblock drains which
do the same thing, a lot more quickly, effectively, and _very_
permanently. And they have come onto the market in the last few years!

The reason that most of these pesticides are banned is lack of
information. Many tests are required to show that they cause no, or
minimal and acceptable, harm, even if they have been on sale for years.
Anecdotal "proof" of harmlessness is not acceptable to the Regulatory
Authorities; the tests have to be done in a specific way, which is very
expensive to perform. The profit from older products (such as Rose Clear
3) will be less than it costs to do these tests, so the manufacturers
are caught, as our American friends say "Between a rock and a hard
place". That is the way most of these products are forced off the market.


The DEFRA website explains why Rose Clear 3 has been banned. DEFRA are
only responsible for the safety of agricultural/horticultural products,
which is why they have no power to ban drain cleaners etc.

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 31/05/10 18:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:
(snip)

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.


There are many ordinary household chemicals used to unblock drains which
do the same thing, a lot more quickly, effectively, and _very_
permanently. And they have come onto the market in the last few years!

The reason that most of these pesticides are banned is lack of
information. Many tests are required to show that they cause no, or
minimal and acceptable, harm, even if they have been on sale for years.
Anecdotal "proof" of harmlessness is not acceptable to the Regulatory
Authorities; the tests have to be done in a specific way, which is very
expensive to perform. The profit from older products (such as Rose Clear
3) will be less than it costs to do these tests, so the manufacturers
are caught, as our American friends say "Between a rock and a hard
place". That is the way most of these products are forced off the
market.


The DEFRA website explains why Rose Clear 3 has been banned. DEFRA are
only responsible for the safety of agricultural/horticultural products,
which is why they have no power to ban drain cleaners etc.


But surely if you got Jeyes Fluid in your eyes you would be in serious
trouble, isn't that used extensively as a gardening product?

On 01/06/10 09:59, Racquel Darrian wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 31/05/10 18:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:
(snip)

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.


There are many ordinary household chemicals used to unblock drains which
do the same thing, a lot more quickly, effectively, and _very_
permanently. And they have come onto the market in the last few years!

The reason that most of these pesticides are banned is lack of
information. Many tests are required to show that they cause no, or
minimal and acceptable, harm, even if they have been on sale for years.
Anecdotal "proof" of harmlessness is not acceptable to the Regulatory
Authorities; the tests have to be done in a specific way, which is very
expensive to perform. The profit from older products (such as Rose Clear
3) will be less than it costs to do these tests, so the manufacturers
are caught, as our American friends say "Between a rock and a hard
place". That is the way most of these products are forced off the
market.


The DEFRA website explains why Rose Clear 3 has been banned. DEFRA are
only responsible for the safety of agricultural/horticultural products,
which is why they have no power to ban drain cleaners etc.


But surely if you got Jeyes Fluid in your eyes you would be in serious
trouble, isn't that used extensively as a gardening product?

Is it sold/marketed as a pesticide/herbicide?

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 01/06/10 09:59, Racquel Darrian wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 31/05/10 18:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:
(snip)

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.


There are many ordinary household chemicals used to unblock drains
which
do the same thing, a lot more quickly, effectively, and _very_
permanently. And they have come onto the market in the last few years!

The reason that most of these pesticides are banned is lack of
information. Many tests are required to show that they cause no, or
minimal and acceptable, harm, even if they have been on sale for years.
Anecdotal "proof" of harmlessness is not acceptable to the Regulatory
Authorities; the tests have to be done in a specific way, which is very
expensive to perform. The profit from older products (such as Rose
Clear
3) will be less than it costs to do these tests, so the manufacturers
are caught, as our American friends say "Between a rock and a hard
place". That is the way most of these products are forced off the
market.


The DEFRA website explains why Rose Clear 3 has been banned. DEFRA are
only responsible for the safety of agricultural/horticultural products,
which is why they have no power to ban drain cleaners etc.


But surely if you got Jeyes Fluid in your eyes you would be in serious
trouble, isn't that used extensively as a gardening product?

Is it sold/marketed as a pesticide/herbicide?


Growmore is. If I rubbed it into your eyes I bet you would get permanent eye
damage? ;O)

On 01/06/10 18:25, Racquel Darrian wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 01/06/10 09:59, Racquel Darrian wrote:

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On 31/05/10 18:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
" wrote in message
...
On 30/05/10 11:38, Martin wrote:
On 30/05/10 10:17, Racquel Darrian wrote:
(snip)

Maybe there are good reasons for banning some of these popular weed
killers, that have nothing to do with organics.

The reason for the ban is that in concentrated form if it gets in the
eyes it can cause permanent damage to the cornea.


There are many ordinary household chemicals used to unblock drains
which
do the same thing, a lot more quickly, effectively, and _very_
permanently. And they have come onto the market in the last few years!

The reason that most of these pesticides are banned is lack of
information. Many tests are required to show that they cause no, or
minimal and acceptable, harm, even if they have been on sale for
years.
Anecdotal "proof" of harmlessness is not acceptable to the Regulatory
Authorities; the tests have to be done in a specific way, which is
very
expensive to perform. The profit from older products (such as Rose
Clear
3) will be less than it costs to do these tests, so the manufacturers
are caught, as our American friends say "Between a rock and a hard
place". That is the way most of these products are forced off the
market.


The DEFRA website explains why Rose Clear 3 has been banned. DEFRA are
only responsible for the safety of agricultural/horticultural products,
which is why they have no power to ban drain cleaners etc.


But surely if you got Jeyes Fluid in your eyes you would be in serious
trouble, isn't that used extensively as a gardening product?

Is it sold/marketed as a pesticide/herbicide?


Growmore is.

.... a fertiliser http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=451

If I rubbed it into your eyes I bet you would get permanent
eye damage? ;O)

LOL

I bet Growmore is rubbed on other places too with eye wateringly
disappointing results.