Phil Cook wrote:
Rusty Hinge wrote:

When there's a test match, one of my neighbours mows his substantial lawn.

Without fail.

Wanna bet on that? :-)

I'm sure I could bribe him...

--
Rusty

Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
Neighbours?
theme tune
All you need is **&$£&! neighbours!
/tune

Same neighbour that got my very elderly cat put down. Cat had never put
her
foot outside for years, 25 yrs old. but when she was outside looking for
me when I got hospital emergency admission she was collected up by
someone passing by, put down before I could rescue her.
I was gutted.
There's a law against that.

Too late. Already done, thanks to the RSPCA.

Maybe for the cat, but if the deed wasn't too long ago, It's not too
late to take action against the RSPCA.

Officious lot of %$£&!s need keeping in line

I was thrilled when I found out after a week out for me in hospital she'd
been taken to a vet, I expected to collect her from there and bring her
home.
No.
The RSPCA pay for a vet to see her and because she is old they put her down,
despite my own vet seeing her all the time and she is being treated.
This is not the first time I've had issues with the RSPCA.
My goats - well, if you see one limping -do help me to catch it, RSPCA!

Has the RSPCA shooting season opened yet?

I believe you can't hunt them with hounds now.

Officially.

--
Rusty

cineman wrote:
"Jake" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:05:10 +0100, "Ian B"
wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:
"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:28:08 -0700, harry wrote:

Dismantled the compost heap yesterday and found about thirty grass
snake eggs. It least that's what I assume they are as we have
grass snakes, they regularly clear out my pond of tadpoles. I've
put them in my propagator in some damp compost. Waiting to see what
happens.
The police arrest you for an offence under the Wildlife and
Countryside act? ISTR that they are protected.
Since the compost heap has already been dismantled (or he wouldn't
have found the eggs which he could have no idea were there) I think
harry has done his best for them by doing what he has.
I don't expect the W&C Act exists to punish people who accidentally
find grass snake eggs in their compost heap while dismantling it.
I'd be so thrilled if I had grass snake eggs in *my* compost heap, I
doubt it as I've never seen a grass snake in my garden but hey, I
rarely dismantle my heap, it's 100 yds away so perhaps they are there
without me seeing them? I really enjoyed reading harry's post about
this and I hope he gets some baby grass snakes hatching out in his
propagator
Just hope there's no RSPCA inspectors, or the type of people who like
phoning them up, reading this newsgroup...


Ian

Or get pro-active and phone the RSPCA and say they've been found in
the compost heap and ask what to do. Place your bets on (1) sorry, we
have no inspectors in your area so cannot help you but would you like
to make a donation? (2) put them back in the (non-existent) compost
heap and would you like to make a dontation? (3) you shouldn't have
dismantled your compost heap in case there were eggs in it but would
you like to make a donation? (4) sorry, we're too busy with squirrel
killers at the moment and would you like to make a donation to
squirrel rescue? or (5) doh??? but would you like to make a donation
anyway?

I wonder what newly hatched grass snakes eat. If it helps, I've
actually got some newly hatched tadpoles in my pond and another lot of
eggs which still have tiny wriggling things in them. Only found them
when I started (and suddenly stopped) clearing out some overgrown
vegetation at the back. Never know tadpoles this late before!


Those eggs with wriggly things in are most likely newt eggs, have some
baby newts in my pond which havew only just gor legs, this seems to be very
late.

Your quoting isn't working

--
Rusty

Jake wrote:

Nope. They's deffo tadpoles though the ones that haven't hatched don't
seem to be getting anywhere. I also have newts (so know the
difference) - round here they have a late summer suicidal streak. I
catch them running across the lawn, rescue them from the cat and
return them to the pond. Two minutes later and they're running across
the lawn again.

This time of year they don't live in ponds.

If left alone, they run around to the front of the
house and down the road where they jump into a gully and are
(presumably) never seen again.

Soon, they'll be crawling under things as a nice damp place that
attracts creepy-crawly treats, and where they'll spend the winter.

Usually, they'll return to the same pond in the spring to spawn.
--
Rusty

David WE Roberts wrote:

I found about 50 newts and 100 frogs burried in the sludge at the bottom
of the pond.
I had no idea that there were so many there.
It wasn't the mating season.

So I am now sceptical when people say that they only come to water to mate.
Toads, yes, but not frogs and newts.

In dry weather they'll make for a pond. Otherwise they find a nice damp
spot to lurk during the day.

At present, my garden is heaving and hopping with frogs, toads and
newts. The nearest pond is three doors away.

--
Rusty

Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Derek Turner" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:28:08 -0700, harry wrote:

Dismantled the compost heap yesterday and found about thirty grass
snake
eggs. It least that's what I assume they are as we have grass snakes,
they regularly clear out my pond of tadpoles. I've put them in my
propagator in some damp compost. Waiting to see what happens.
The police arrest you for an offence under the Wildlife and Countryside
act? ISTR that they are protected.
Since the compost heap has already been dismantled (or he wouldn't have
found the eggs which he could have no idea were there) I think harry has
done his best for them by doing what he has.
I don't expect the W&C Act exists to punish people who accidentally find
grass snake eggs in their compost heap while dismantling it.
I found a dead grass-snake on the road the other day. This is the first
sign of them I've seen in the locality, and I've been here since the
mid-'seventies.

I'd be so thrilled if I had grass snake eggs in *my* compost heap, I
doubt it as I've never seen a grass snake in my garden but hey, I rarely
dismantle my heap, it's 100 yds away so perhaps they are there without me
seeing them?
I really enjoyed reading harry's post about this and I hope he gets some
baby grass snakes hatching out in his propagator
So do I.

I suppose they couldn't be snails' eggs, though?

NO!! I hope someone knows the difference between grass snail eggs and snail
eggs!

Grass snails? Coo!

But snails' eggs are pretty large, especially the Roman snail, which
seems o be taking hold in some places - presumably where there's no garlic.

--
Rusty

I don't think it is just dry weather. Yes, frogs do like a pond if it's hot and dry; one of our ponds is slow to warm in spring, so they don't use it for spawning. But in a hot summer, they edge is ringed with frogs. This year it has been neither hot nor dry, but we still have frogs in the main pond and in a sink full of water down the veg area, as well as in all the usual places like amongst the strawberries.

Newts are also still in the pond - though also amongst the strawberries and under flowerpots.

I wonder whether some frogs and newts hunt near a pond and therefore use the pond as a base, whereas others find they need to go further afield, so have to find a different hiding place?

Newts, of course, spawn later than frogs, and seem to spend longer in the pond in the process. (I think they time their mating to ensure a ready supply of young frog tadpoles for food ;-) )

In message , Rusty Hinge
writes
Jake wrote:

Nope. They's deffo tadpoles though the ones that haven't hatched don't
seem to be getting anywhere. I also have newts (so know the
difference) - round here they have a late summer suicidal streak. I
catch them running across the lawn, rescue them from the cat and
return them to the pond. Two minutes later and they're running across
the lawn again.

This time of year they don't live in ponds.

If left alone, they run around to the front of the
house and down the road where they jump into a gully and are
(presumably) never seen again.

Soon, they'll be crawling under things as a nice damp place that
attracts creepy-crawly treats, and where they'll spend the winter.

Usually, they'll return to the same pond in the spring to spawn.

I get toads crawling under the minute gap under my garage door to find
somewhere cosy.
Sadly the favourite hiding place they find is under the tyres of my car.
On more than one occasion I have found a flattened and dried specimen
when the car is not in the garage.

I can hardly look under each wheel like a N Ireland politician, can I?

They used to live in a log pile a few years back, until I used the last
logs, so now I am building a habitat with thick branch prunings.
--
Gordon H
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In message , Rusty Hinge
writes
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote

I suppose they couldn't be snails' eggs, though?
NO!! I hope someone knows the difference between grass snail eggs
and snail eggs!

Grass snails? Coo!

But snails' eggs are pretty large, especially the Roman snail, which
seems o be taking hold in some places - presumably where there's no
garlic.

I can't tell the difference, but I don't see any grass snakes here.
I do see snails' eggs, which are white and about 3/16" diameter.
I pour boiling water over them...
--
Gordon H
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"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
Neighbours?
theme tune
All you need is **&$£&! neighbours!
/tune

Same neighbour that got my very elderly cat put down. Cat had never put
her
foot outside for years, 25 yrs old. but when she was outside looking
for me when I got hospital emergency admission she was collected up by
someone passing by, put down before I could rescue her.
I was gutted.
There's a law against that.

Too late. Already done, thanks to the RSPCA.

Maybe for the cat, but if the deed wasn't too long ago, It's not too late
to take action against the RSPCA.

Officious lot of %$£&!s need keeping in line

I was thrilled when I found out after a week out for me in hospital she'd
been taken to a vet, I expected to collect her from there and bring her
home.
No.
The RSPCA pay for a vet to see her and because she is old they put her
down, despite my own vet seeing her all the time and she is being
treated.
This is not the first time I've had issues with the RSPCA.
My goats - well, if you see one limping -do help me to catch it, RSPCA!

Has the RSPCA shooting season opened yet?

I believe you can't hunt them with hounds now.

The vet they took her to defends his position. Of course he does, he is paid
by them.
She was dehydryated - of course she was - she'd been shut out of my house by
my neighbour unable to get to her rehydration fluid which she needed as she
had kidney problems.
It's pointless to take action against the RSPCA now, a year later but I
agree with my friend who says "I would not give the RSPCA the drippings of
my nose"

I probably should have had her microchipped but I hadn't as she never went
out for years until then, even so it would not have helped, I was not
contactable, I was in hospital and by the time I got out it was too late.
My younger cat is microchipped but it will not work for him either in those
circumstances.

Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
Neighbours?
theme tune
All you need is **&$£&! neighbours!
/tune

Same neighbour that got my very elderly cat put down. Cat had
never put her
foot outside for years, 25 yrs old. but when she was outside
looking for me when I got hospital emergency admission she was
collected up by someone passing by, put down before I could
rescue her. I was gutted.
There's a law against that.

Too late. Already done, thanks to the RSPCA.

Maybe for the cat, but if the deed wasn't too long ago, It's not too
late to take action against the RSPCA.

Officious lot of %$£&!s need keeping in line

I was thrilled when I found out after a week out for me in hospital
she'd been taken to a vet, I expected to collect her from there and
bring her home.
No.
The RSPCA pay for a vet to see her and because she is old they put
her down, despite my own vet seeing her all the time and she is
being treated.
This is not the first time I've had issues with the RSPCA.
My goats - well, if you see one limping -do help me to catch it,
RSPCA!

Has the RSPCA shooting season opened yet?

I believe you can't hunt them with hounds now.

The vet they took her to defends his position. Of course he does, he
is paid by them.
She was dehydryated - of course she was - she'd been shut out of my
house by my neighbour unable to get to her rehydration fluid which
she needed as she had kidney problems.
It's pointless to take action against the RSPCA now, a year later but
I agree with my friend who says "I would not give the RSPCA the
drippings of my nose"

I probably should have had her microchipped but I hadn't as she never
went out for years until then, even so it would not have helped, I
was not contactable, I was in hospital and by the time I got out it
was too late. My younger cat is microchipped but it will not work for
him either in those circumstances.

I told this story to my sister today- she worked many years in dog rescue
for a charity. She was horrified, then she asked "what about the two week
holding period?"

She said it's general practise in rescue work for any animal to be held for
at least two weeks before any such decision is made; and certainly there
should be attempts to contact an owner. With the owner in hospital, this
should never have happened. She was utterly appalled.

(She has little time for the RSPCA either, having had numerous contacts with
them during her dog rescue work).


Ian

"Ian B" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
Neighbours?
theme tune
All you need is **&$£&! neighbours!
/tune

Same neighbour that got my very elderly cat put down. Cat had
never put her
foot outside for years, 25 yrs old. but when she was outside
looking for me when I got hospital emergency admission she was
collected up by someone passing by, put down before I could
rescue her. I was gutted.
There's a law against that.

Too late. Already done, thanks to the RSPCA.

Maybe for the cat, but if the deed wasn't too long ago, It's not too
late to take action against the RSPCA.

Officious lot of %$£&!s need keeping in line

I was thrilled when I found out after a week out for me in hospital
she'd been taken to a vet, I expected to collect her from there and
bring her home.
No.
The RSPCA pay for a vet to see her and because she is old they put
her down, despite my own vet seeing her all the time and she is
being treated.
This is not the first time I've had issues with the RSPCA.
My goats - well, if you see one limping -do help me to catch it,
RSPCA!

Has the RSPCA shooting season opened yet?

I believe you can't hunt them with hounds now.

The vet they took her to defends his position. Of course he does, he
is paid by them.
She was dehydryated - of course she was - she'd been shut out of my
house by my neighbour unable to get to her rehydration fluid which
she needed as she had kidney problems.
It's pointless to take action against the RSPCA now, a year later but
I agree with my friend who says "I would not give the RSPCA the
drippings of my nose"

I probably should have had her microchipped but I hadn't as she never
went out for years until then, even so it would not have helped, I
was not contactable, I was in hospital and by the time I got out it
was too late. My younger cat is microchipped but it will not work for
him either in those circumstances.

I told this story to my sister today- she worked many years in dog rescue
for a charity. She was horrified, then she asked "what about the two week
holding period?"

She said it's general practise in rescue work for any animal to be held
for at least two weeks before any such decision is made; and certainly
there should be attempts to contact an owner. With the owner in hospital,
this should never have happened. She was utterly appalled.

(She has little time for the RSPCA either, having had numerous contacts
with them during her dog rescue work).


Ian


http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/cash...obs-34461.aspx

Would have snipped all of the dross above but nobody seems to bother.

Off topic

Public conversations which should be email

It all seems to go on this site now.

What do we all think of the coalition?

How have you done on September's Premium Bonds?




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Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
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"Ian B" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
Neighbours?
theme tune
All you need is **&$£&! neighbours!
/tune

Same neighbour that got my very elderly cat put down. Cat had
never put her
foot outside for years, 25 yrs old. but when she was outside
looking for me when I got hospital emergency admission she was
collected up by someone passing by, put down before I could
rescue her. I was gutted.
There's a law against that.

Too late. Already done, thanks to the RSPCA.

Maybe for the cat, but if the deed wasn't too long ago, It's not too
late to take action against the RSPCA.

Officious lot of %$£&!s need keeping in line

I was thrilled when I found out after a week out for me in hospital
she'd been taken to a vet, I expected to collect her from there and
bring her home.
No.
The RSPCA pay for a vet to see her and because she is old they put
her down, despite my own vet seeing her all the time and she is
being treated.
This is not the first time I've had issues with the RSPCA.
My goats - well, if you see one limping -do help me to catch it,
RSPCA!

Has the RSPCA shooting season opened yet?

I believe you can't hunt them with hounds now.

The vet they took her to defends his position. Of course he does, he
is paid by them.
She was dehydryated - of course she was - she'd been shut out of my
house by my neighbour unable to get to her rehydration fluid which
she needed as she had kidney problems.
It's pointless to take action against the RSPCA now, a year later but
I agree with my friend who says "I would not give the RSPCA the
drippings of my nose"

I probably should have had her microchipped but I hadn't as she never
went out for years until then, even so it would not have helped, I
was not contactable, I was in hospital and by the time I got out it
was too late. My younger cat is microchipped but it will not work for
him either in those circumstances.

I told this story to my sister today- she worked many years in dog rescue
for a charity. She was horrified, then she asked "what about the two week
holding period?"

She said it's general practise in rescue work for any animal to be held
for at least two weeks before any such decision is made; and certainly
there should be attempts to contact an owner. With the owner in hospital,
this should never have happened. She was utterly appalled.

(She has little time for the RSPCA either, having had numerous contacts
with them during her dog rescue work).


It worked like this: some kind person picked her up from my front garden
looking for me, phoned the RSPCA, who told them to take her a vet (paid by
them, as I said)
There was no holding period anywhere.

I searched to find what happened when I got home because she was missing.
It took a while to find out. Thing is my own vet was treating her for the
multiple difficulties she had at aged 25. He is very ethical, and if he
thought she needed to be destroyed (that's what it was) he would have told
me.
I was horrified by what was done, but not really surprised.
That's the RSPCA. Ask them to come out to a badger run over. Maybe.
Probably not.
They prefer to kill my cat who lived wild for years and finally got into her
one true home.

I will never forgive them, ever.

On 1 Sep, 19:58, "Christina Websell"
wrote:
"Ian B" wrote in message

...



Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
Neighbours?
* *theme tune
All you need is **&$£&! neighbours!
* */tune

Same neighbour that got my very elderly cat put down. *Cat had
never put her
foot outside for years, 25 yrs old. but when she was outside
looking for me when I got hospital emergency admission she was
collected up by someone passing * by, put down before I could
rescue her. I was gutted.
There's a law against that.

Too late. *Already done, thanks to the RSPCA.

Maybe for the cat, but if the deed wasn't too long ago, It's not too
late to take action against the RSPCA.

Officious lot of %$£&!s need keeping in line

I was thrilled when I found out after a week out for me in hospital
she'd been taken to a vet, I expected to collect her from there and
bring her home.
No.
The RSPCA pay for a vet to see her and because she is old they put
her down, despite my own vet seeing her all the time and she is
being treated.
This is not the first time I've had issues with the RSPCA.
My goats - well, if you see one limping -do help me to catch it,
RSPCA!

Has the RSPCA shooting season opened yet?

I believe you can't hunt them with hounds now.

The vet they took her to defends his position. Of course he does, he
is paid by them.
She was dehydryated - of course she was - she'd been shut out of my
house by my neighbour unable to get to her rehydration fluid which
she needed as she had kidney problems.
It's pointless to take action against the RSPCA now, a year later but
I agree with my friend who says "I would not give the RSPCA the
drippings of my nose"

I probably should have had her microchipped but I hadn't as she never
went out for years until then, even so it would not have helped, I
was not contactable, I was in hospital and by the time I got out it
was too late. My younger cat is microchipped but it will not work for
him either in those circumstances.

I told this story to my sister today- she worked many years in dog rescue
for a charity. She was horrified, then she asked "what about the two week
holding period?"

She said it's general practise in rescue work for any animal to be held
for at least two weeks before any such decision is made; and certainly
there should be attempts to contact an owner. With the owner in hospital,
this should never have happened. She was utterly appalled.

(She has little time for the RSPCA either, having had numerous contacts
with them during her dog rescue work).

It worked like this: *some kind person picked her up from my front garden
looking for me, phoned the RSPCA, who told them to take her a vet (paid by
them, as I said)
There was no holding period anywhere.

I searched to find what happened when I got home because she was missing.
It took a while to find out. Thing is my own vet was treating her for the
multiple difficulties she had at aged 25. *He is very ethical, and if he
thought she needed to be destroyed (that's what it was) he would have told
me.
I was horrified by what was done, but not really surprised.
That's the RSPCA. *Ask them to come out to a badger run over. *Maybe.
Probably not.
They prefer to kill my cat who lived wild for years and finally got into her
one true home.

I will never forgive them, ever.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's too many in charity work for who it's just a career these
days. Not interested in animal welfare.

Rusty Hinge wrote:
Christina Websell wrote:
"Rusty Hinge" wrote in message
...
[...]
I suppose they couldn't be snails' eggs, though?

NO!! I hope someone knows the difference between grass snail eggs
and snail eggs!

Grass snails? Coo!

But snails' eggs are pretty large, especially the Roman snail, which
seems o be taking hold in some places - presumably where there's no
garlic.

What happened about snail caviar? Was it just a passing thing?

--
Mike.