Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so ago.

http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7

It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
and throwing it away every year.

Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
have not been chopped to put it in a pot).

Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.

In message , john hamilton
writes
Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so ago.

http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7

It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
and throwing it away every year.

Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
have not been chopped to put it in a pot).

Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.



From that pic it looks like it might be a Nordmann Fir, commonly sold
nowadays as they hang onto their needles better.

Don't know your locale, I'd suspect though that those from the DIY sheds
and garden centre Homebase etc. would be fine, or at least be hionest if
you ask and if you got home and weren't happy with it would refund
exchange.

I'd be rather more wary about buying one from the typical her now gone
in a week type sellers tyhat spring up.
--
Chris French

On Dec 13, 6:08*pm, "john hamilton"
wrote:
Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so ago.

http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7

It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
and throwing it away every year.

Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
have not been chopped to put it in a pot).

Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
reasonably priced nursery. * *Thanks for any advice.

Virtually all the potted ones are dug up and cropped.
Your only chance is to go to a tree nursery and buy one there. We
have a local place where you go out and dig up your own. You need to
take a large plastic sack. You then have the problem of getting it
into a pot yourself. We have ours out in the garden.

It is clearly a true fir, ie Abies spp. But confidently identifying conifers to species level on a single shot of the needles, when there are so many cultivars, is a bit tricky. As earlier poster says, Abies nordmanniana, Abies nordmanniana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is the most commonly used true fir for cut Christmas trees. But part of the reason for that is that it is fast growing, which is not actually ideal for pot cultivation. Which makes me wonder whether it might actually be though actually be Abies koreana, Abies koreana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia which is slower growing, or at least slow growing forms are commonly sold in garden centres. That is what I would actually recommend you buy for a pot cultivated fir tree, although you might find other nice slow-growing conifers for pot cultivation in good plant nurseries. You can also get beautful slow-growing cultivars of pine species which are suitable for pot cultivation - for example I used to have a dwarf cultivar of Scots pine which grew to 4 feet in 8 years and a beautiful shape, but it got destroyed in our house extension.

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writes

john hamilton;907523 Wrote:
Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or
so
ago.

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It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple
of
weeks
every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves
buying
one
and throwing it away every year.

Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots

have not been chopped to put it in a pot).

Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in
a
reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.

It is clearly a true fir, ie Abies spp. But confidently identifying
conifers to species level on a single shot of the needles, when there
are so many cultivars, is a bit tricky. As earlier poster says, Abies
nordmanniana, 'Abies nordmanniana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'
(http://tinyurl.com/y9ztavw) is the most commonly used true fir for cut
Christmas trees. But part of the reason for that is that it is fast
growing, which is not actually ideal for pot cultivation.

I don't imagine that will concern most places. They will sell what sells
and is cheap :-)


Certainly the ones in Homebase are labelled as Nordmanns (that might not
be what they are though, who knows), the also had Fraser fir and
'Norwegian Pine'

--
Chris French

Having looked again at your picture and compared it with our cut Nordmann at home, and some photos of Nordmanns, I'm inclined to the view that your photo is not a Nordmann. It just doesn't look right - Nordmanns seem to have a higher density of needles that pack into "cushions". It looks more like the picture of Fraser fir on Wikipedia. Abies fraseri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia But, as I say, identifying these things exactly from a photo is a problem. As far as I can tell, it might also be Silver fir, which is the "original" Christmas tree Abies alba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia among others.

"Norwegian pine" is a funny. Norway spruce Picea abies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is, of course, the most common kind of Christmas Tree in this country. That would be my first guess for what it is. The only species of pine which grows naturally in Norway is Pinus sylvestris, alias Scots pine. Scots Pine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Maybe it's a Scots pine they sourced from Norway, and were embarrassed about calling it Scots. There are nice dwarfed cultivars of Scots pine which would make a lovely conifer in a pot, if you didn't mind it being rather small to start with. Pinus mugo, which is a naturally dwarf pine that grows at high altitude in central and SW Europe, would also be nice - it also comes in many forms and cultivars.

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:08:33 -0000, "john hamilton"
wrote:

Some friends bought this tree that was grown in a pot, five years or so ago.

http://tinypic.com/r/wluj6b/7

It's brought into the house from outside in the garden for a couple of weeks
every christmas. Although it was a bit pricey initially it saves buying one
and throwing it away every year.

Would anyone be able to name this type of tree please and especially
grateful if anyone knows where to buy a *pot-grown* one. (i.e. the roots
have not been chopped to put it in a pot).

Ideally it could be purchased not too far from the North London area in a
reasonably priced nursery. Thanks for any advice.


It's hard to tell but it looks a bit like abies koreana. However that
has silvery undersides to the leaves which aren't apparent in your
picture.


Pam in Bristol