I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

How many of you get married in church with Gods blessing but never actually
go to church afterwards?

Most of you.

How many of you have been Christened or have had your child Christened? and
actually been back to church to say thanks in that special way that the
vicar does?

Not many of you.

These are my thoughts and welcome or not, the truth.
Baz

"Baz" wrote in message
...
I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

How many of you get married in church with Gods blessing but never
actually
go to church afterwards?

Most of you.

How many of you have been Christened or have had your child Christened?
and
actually been back to church to say thanks in that special way that the
vicar does?

Not many of you.

These are my thoughts and welcome or not, the truth.
Baz

Greetings Baz

All you have to do is ask those followers 'Who or what is God?'

Have a nice holiday period. Enjoy yourself.

By the way, if anyone comes up with a satisfactory answer, let me know.

Mike



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Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
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In article ,
Baz wrote:
I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

I recommend that you do what I do - celebrate the feast of the midwinter
solistice - Christmas is just a relabelling of an ancient festival :-)

The really objectionable thing is Tesco.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 13:27:08 +0000 (GMT), wrote:

In article ,
Baz wrote:
I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

I recommend that you do what I do - celebrate the feast of the midwinter
solistice - Christmas is just a relabelling of an ancient festival :-)

The really objectionable thing is Tesco.

How many once went Xmas shopping in Tesco and vowed never to go there
again.

I have never ever been to Tesco for christmas shopping, or much other
shopping either!

Alan


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Martin

On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:34:37 +0100, Martin wrote:

How many once went Xmas shopping in Tesco and vowed never to go there
again.

Not as bad as Ikea on Boxing Day, it wasn't my idea.

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Cheers
Dave.

BAH! HUMBUG!

On 24/12/2010 13:26, Baz wrote:
I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

How many of you get married in church with Gods blessing but never actually
go to church afterwards?

Most of you.

How many of you have been Christened or have had your child Christened? and
actually been back to church to say thanks in that special way that the
vicar does?

Not many of you.

These are my thoughts and welcome or not, the truth.
Baz

When your thoughts become "the truth", you're as bad as they are. Time
to put on a silly hat and start waving incense about.

Xmas is a civic duty without which the economy would collapse, and life
as we know it would come to an end. I ignore it, and it goes away. It's
only three months after all.

"stuart noble" wrote in message
...
On 24/12/2010 13:26, Baz wrote:
I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

How many of you get married in church with Gods blessing but never
actually
go to church afterwards?

Most of you.

How many of you have been Christened or have had your child Christened?
and
actually been back to church to say thanks in that special way that the
vicar does?

Not many of you.

These are my thoughts and welcome or not, the truth.
Baz

When your thoughts become "the truth", you're as bad as they are. Time to
put on a silly hat and start waving incense about.

Xmas is a civic duty without which the economy would collapse,


and have you seen what the FTSE has ended up at ?????????????

Have a Happy Holiday

Mike

"It's only three months after all." Is that all? It seems longer ;-)

Xmas is a civic duty without which the economy would collapse,


and have you seen what the FTSE has ended up at ?????????????

I have now

Have a Happy Holiday

Won't be easy :-)

In message , 'Mike'
wrote

"It's only three months after all." Is that all? It seems longer ;-)

On Monday Tesco will be selling Easter eggs and chocolate rabbits.

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Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 15:58:24 +0000, Alan wrote:

In message , 'Mike'
wrote

"It's only three months after all." Is that all? It seems longer ;-)

On Monday Tesco will be selling Easter eggs and chocolate rabbits.

They do that all the year round.
--

Martin


Christmas stuff being replaced by Fireworks and Guy Fawkes faces as we speak
;-)

Mike


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Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
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It looks like it!

I don't go to church, but that does not stop me enjoying Christmas.

Can't remember whether I have been to a church wedding or not, but does it
matter?

One of my children was christened!

You should have gone to Asda!

"Baz" wrote in message
...
I never go to church to worship God.
I have never attended a church wedding.
My children have not been christened.
I have been trapped in a Tesco car park for 3 hours yesterday getting
essentials due to christmas shoppers.

When will this nightmare end?

How many of you get married in church with Gods blessing but never
actually
go to church afterwards?

Most of you.

How many of you have been Christened or have had your child Christened?
and
actually been back to church to say thanks in that special way that the
vicar does?

Not many of you.

These are my thoughts and welcome or not, the truth.
Baz

In answer to your question - no, you are not.

I'm an atheist, so the religious message of Christmas is irrelevant to
me.

I am not mercenary, so the crass commercialism of Christmas and its
encouragement of acquisitiveness in children is repugnant to me.

What really annoys me about the whole charade is that it starts around
August and gets worse. People do things in the name of Christmas which
would (or should) result in them being sectioned at any other time.
Wearing a Santa hat should be made a capital offence! You cannot switch
on a TV or radio, or open a newspaper or magazine, without having the
whole business thrust down your throat. Yet by Boxing Day or the day
after it is forgotten; it is as if it had never existed. Until next
August, of course!

I agree that we should have a celebration of the turn of the year when
the days start getting longer (21 Dec) and eat and drink well to keep up
our spirits and keep us warm, but I wish people would keep a sense of
proportion.

Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)
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Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.

Roy Bailey wrote in news:$ysl6uF1
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In answer to your question - no, you are not.

I'm an atheist, so the religious message of Christmas is irrelevant to
me.

I am not mercenary, so the crass commercialism of Christmas and its
encouragement of acquisitiveness in children is repugnant to me.

What really annoys me about the whole charade is that it starts around
August and gets worse. People do things in the name of Christmas which
would (or should) result in them being sectioned at any other time.
Wearing a Santa hat should be made a capital offence! You cannot switch
on a TV or radio, or open a newspaper or magazine, without having the
whole business thrust down your throat. Yet by Boxing Day or the day
after it is forgotten; it is as if it had never existed. Until next
August, of course!

I agree that we should have a celebration of the turn of the year when
the days start getting longer (21 Dec) and eat and drink well to keep up
our spirits and keep us warm, but I wish people would keep a sense of
proportion.

Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)

I agree with most of your arguements, and they are sound.
I am not an atheist but I feel personally a fraud to celebrate any
religious festivals for the reason that I don't support my church as I
should if I were to participate in its events.

A good example of what I am ranting about is "Hatch Match Dispatch" and in
between most of us never visit the church.

I can't find the correct word for it but hypocrisy will do for me in the
meantime.

Baz

On 25/12/2010 12:13, Roy Bailey wrote:
In answer to your question - no, you are not.

I'm an atheist, so the religious message of Christmas is irrelevant to me.

I am not mercenary, so the crass commercialism of Christmas and its
encouragement of acquisitiveness in children is repugnant to me.

In that sense it really is the spawn of the devil. Filling a child's
head with Father Xmas, and then chastising them for being badly behaved
on the day, is nothing short of child abuse IMO.


What really annoys me about the whole charade is that it starts around
August and gets worse. People do things in the name of Christmas which
would (or should) result in them being sectioned at any other time.
Wearing a Santa hat should be made a capital offence! You cannot switch
on a TV or radio, or open a newspaper or magazine, without having the
whole business thrust down your throat. Yet by Boxing Day or the day
after it is forgotten; it is as if it had never existed. Until next
August, of course!

I find Japanese films a good antidote at this time of year.

I agree that we should have a celebration of the turn of the year when
the days start getting longer (21 Dec) and eat and drink well to keep up
our spirits and keep us warm, but I wish people would keep a sense of
proportion.

A bit of joy you mean? Steady on mate, this is England.

Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)