"Peter James" wrote in message
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Roy Bailey wrote:


Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)

But the whole point of the Scrooge character, in Dickens' "Christmas
Carol", was that he reformed and celebrated Christmas with the rest of
the trolls.
He rejoined the mainstream of silly spending, false jollification and
hypocritical mainstream christianity.
I remember from the days of my youth, a comedian called Tom Lehrer who
wrote and sang a Christmas song, which included the immortal lines;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSlpCBek1_M

stuart noble wrote in
:


As long as you live 7 years after implementing said plan. I think the
statistics suggest that most don't.

stuart noble, hello

What "said plan" are you refering to if implemented, and which statistics
suggest most don't? do what?
What don't do what? after my 7 years?

Talk about confused. I am.

Work this one out if you can,
Happy new year to you, stuart.

Baz

In message , Baz
wrote

What are BOGOFs &c ?

It's where are supermarket inflate the price of an item by 100% and then
offer Buy One and Get One Free. Most BOGOF items can be purchased for
half the price elsewhere (but not usually in the MAJOR competing
supermarkets at the same time) . The biggest rip-off at the major
supermarkets is BOGOFs on fruit and vegetables where the price is raised
by x3 or x4 before the "free" offer.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , Baz
wrote

What are BOGOFs &c ?

It's where are supermarket inflate the price of an item by 100% and then
offer Buy One and Get One Free. Most BOGOF items can be purchased for half
the price elsewhere (but not usually in the MAJOR competing supermarkets
at the same time) . The biggest rip-off at the major supermarkets is
BOGOFs on fruit and vegetables where the price is raised by x3 or x4
before the "free" offer.
--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

Special Offer a pack of two 400grm packs of McVitie's Chocolate Digestive
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2 x 70 cl of named Whisky cheaper per Litre than a Litre bottle ;-((

Mike

Who reads the small print ;-)




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Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
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On Dec 26, 2:16*pm, Baz wrote:
Gopher wrote :





In message , Baz
writes
harry wrote in
:

The answer is simple. You do your shopping a week early and don't go
near the place around Christmas. *Can't understand these people who
leave it all to the last minute. Are they stupid or just got short
memories?

Unfortunatly it's not that simple, at least not this year as milk(even
uht), bread etc.and even petrol/diesel have been very hard to get due
to the snow, so we have had to take any opportunity to get these
items. The day I was trapped in the Tesco car park I was getting these
articles as we were simply desperate for petrol.
Our shopping does not alter for Christmas otherwise I WOULD do it
early, but yes I take your point.

Baz
As Harold Macmillan said "Events dear boy, events!" Perhaps it should
have been "Planning for events dear boy etc." It's not as if it's
unexpected :-))

Regardless - I hope you and yours have an enjoyable holiday; have a
great break and a peaceful and healthy New Year.

Thanks for the history lesson:-)

Not everyone has a horse and cart or public transport, and even if they
did, on our frozen roads recently how would they get a-b.

It could be that Mr Macmillan did not know how to store petrol legally in
this century, or at least forgot to let you know.

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/k...40NEW%20nov07%
20petrolhome.pdf

Mr Macmillan would be proud of me for planing ahead with my legal storage
of petrol.

After that, yes, I should have bought an extra freezer which I can't
afford and put it in a place I havn't room for and put in it some panic
buys that I havn't got the petrol to go and buy

Norman Tebbit once said "on your bike"(only joking)

Without going on too much about this, my family often live hand to mouth,
we don't earn too much though we have to have 2 cars for our jobs and
have put all our investement into the house. We have given up loads of
our passions just to keep up with the increasing cost of paying for the
flaming *place. It was easy at first and we were paying it off as fast as
we could and just as well we did too.

Baz- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You certainly want to pay it off as fast as poss. Interest rates are
bound to go up soonish. You often see free freezers on these
"freecycle" sites.
However you should examine your freezer contents carefully. They can
soon get filled with trash. The main reason for big freezer capacity
is if you grow your own veg/fruit/etc. You need to use freezer stuff
in rotation, difficult if it's a chest type.

On Dec 26, 2:26*pm, hugh ] wrote:
In message , Baz
writes



Gopher wrote in
:

In message , Baz
writes
harry wrote in
:

The answer is simple. You do your shopping a week early and don't go
near the place around Christmas. *Can't understand these people who
leave it all to the last minute. Are they stupid or just got short
memories?

Unfortunatly it's not that simple, at least not this year as milk(even
uht), bread etc.and even petrol/diesel have been very hard to get due
to the snow, so we have had to take any opportunity to get these
items. The day I was trapped in the Tesco car park I was getting these
articles as we were simply desperate for petrol.
Our shopping does not alter for Christmas otherwise I WOULD do it
early, but yes I take your point.

Baz
As Harold Macmillan said "Events dear boy, events!" Perhaps it should
have been "Planning for events dear boy etc." It's not as if it's
unexpected :-))

Regardless - I hope you and yours have an enjoyable holiday; have a
great break and a peaceful and healthy New Year.

Thanks for the history lesson:-)

Not everyone has a horse and cart or public transport, and even if they
did, on our frozen roads recently how would they get a-b.

It could be that Mr Macmillan did not know how to store petrol legally in
this century, or at least forgot to let you know.

http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/k...40NEW%20nov07%
20petrolhome.pdf

Mr Macmillan would be proud of me for planing ahead with my legal storage
of petrol.

After that, yes, I should have bought an extra freezer which I can't
afford and put it in a place I havn't room for and put in it some panic
buys that I havn't got the petrol to go and buy

Norman Tebbit once said "on your bike"(only joking)

Without going on too much about this, my family often live hand to mouth,
we don't earn too much though we have to have 2 cars for our jobs and
have put all our investement into the house. We have given up loads of
our passions just to keep up with the increasing cost of paying for the
flaming *place. It was easy at first and we were paying it off as fast as
we could and just as well we did too.

Baz

And when you get old and frail they'll take it off you to pay for your
care.
--
hugh
"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, Or who said it, Even if
I have said it, Unless it agrees with your own reason And your own
common sense." Buddha- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

True, the socialist *******s will do just that.

On Dec 26, 2:42*pm, Baz wrote:
harry wrote :



Hah. We throw away virtually nothing. * My wife has a shopping list.
You see people going round the stores just chucking things in the
basket at random. Clueless!
If we get low on an item at home she has a list on the wall. *The only
extras we might buy are non-perishable BOGOFs &c.
Peelings go on compost, birds get scraps, still got veg out of the
garden too.

harry,
What are BOGOFs &c ?

You are lucky to still get veg out of your garden.

ALL my hardy(winter) veg are rotting or rotten, even parsnip.

Yes chucking things in the basket at random...done that.
But I was a very young uninformed father then and it took my mother in the
supermarket to educate me about the ins and outs of it all.

20 years on and I am still one of the worst, but my OH knows a bit more
now.

Baz

Buy One Get One Free. BOGOF.
You need to dig up your root crops & wash & dry & and store them in
sand/peat in the garage or somewhere frost free. This keeps them from
wizening up. Look out for free plastic stacking crates for this
purpose.
Or you can leave them in the ground & cover with straw/leaves/compost
etc.


Other stuff can be cooked or blanched & frozen. Fruit, beans, rhubarb
etc.
My wife turns stuff into soups, divides into portions, freezes & puts
in plastic bags which live in the freezer. (Tomatoes Celery etc.)
You have to be selective what you grow if you have only limited space/
time. Grow the expensive stuff. Potatos &c may be satisfying but they
are cheap to buy.

Buy One Get One Free. BOGOF.
You need to dig up your root crops & wash & dry & and store them in
sand/peat in the garage or somewhere frost free. *This keeps them from
wizening up. Look out for free plastic stacking crates for this
purpose.
Or you can leave them in the ground & cover with straw/leaves/compost
etc.

Other stuff can be cooked or blanched & frozen. Fruit, beans, rhubarb
etc.
My wife turns stuff into soups, divides into portions, freezes & puts
in plastic bags which live in the freezer. (Tomatoes Celery etc.)
*You have to be selective what you grow if you have only limited space/
time. Grow the expensive stuff. *Potatos &c may be satisfying but they
are cheap to buy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Or you can store the traditional way. You can build small ones of
these too:-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_clamp

"stuart noble" wrote in message
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On 26/12/2010 14:48, Baz wrote:
] wrote in
:

And when you get old and frail they'll take it off you to pay for your
care.

No doubt.

But if you plan, and trust your family things can be all so different.
(hint hint)

Baz

As long as you live 7 years after implementing said plan. I think the
statistics suggest that most don't.

And what is the plan?

Alan

"harry" wrote in message
...
You certainly want to pay it off as fast as poss. Interest rates are
bound to go up soonish. You often see free freezers on these
"freecycle" sites.
However you should examine your freezer contents carefully. They can
soon get filled with trash. The main reason for big freezer capacity
is if you grow your own veg/fruit/etc. You need to use freezer stuff
in rotation, difficult if it's a chest type.



"Interest rates are bound to go up soonish. "

The sooner the better.
As a saver , I am sick of subsidising the lifestyle of mortgage payers and
bankers bonus unearners.

Pete

graham wrote:

"Peter James" wrote in message
news:1ju3lj5.npmm3b1dtbxkeN%pfjames2000@googlemail .com...
Roy Bailey wrote:


Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)

But the whole point of the Scrooge character, in Dickens' "Christmas
Carol", was that he reformed and celebrated Christmas with the rest of
the trolls.
He rejoined the mainstream of silly spending, false jollification and
hypocritical mainstream christianity.
I remember from the days of my youth, a comedian called Tom Lehrer who
wrote and sang a Christmas song, which included the immortal lines;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSlpCBek1_M
My hero! And I almost got the words right. Not bad for a time lapse of
50 years. Thanks for posting the URL for the song.

Peter

--
He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I
could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far
from being gruntled.
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 -1975

On 26/12/2010 17:10, Baz wrote:
stuart wrote in
:


As long as you live 7 years after implementing said plan. I think the
statistics suggest that most don't.

stuart noble, hello

What "said plan" are you refering to if implemented, and which statistics
suggest most don't? do what?
What don't do what? after my 7 years?

Talk about confused. I am.

Work this one out if you can,
Happy new year to you, stuart.

Baz



But if you plan, and trust your family things can be all so different.
(hint hint)


Sorry to be cryptic. I assumed you meant that you intended to give the
house away to family to avoid care charges and/or inheritance tax.
Either way the 7 year issue raises its ugly head.
Perhaps you should tell *us* what your plan is :-)
HNY to you too.

In article , Peter
James writes
Roy Bailey wrote:


Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)

But the whole point of the Scrooge character, in Dickens' "Christmas
Carol", was that he reformed and celebrated Christmas with the rest of
the trolls.
He rejoined the mainstream of silly spending, false jollification and
hypocritical mainstream christianity.
Yes, a shame he bottled out.

I wonder what he was on to see all those visions.

Roy.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.

"Roy Bailey" wrote in message
...
In article , Peter
James writes
Roy Bailey wrote:


Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)

But the whole point of the Scrooge character, in Dickens' "Christmas
Carol", was that he reformed and celebrated Christmas with the rest of
the trolls.
He rejoined the mainstream of silly spending, false jollification and
hypocritical mainstream christianity.
Yes, a shame he bottled out.

I wonder what he was on to see all those visions.

Roy.
--
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.


Too many Stellas ?

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Today, is the tomorrow, you were worrying about, yesterday.
....................................

In message , Roy Bailey
writes
In article , Peter
James writes
Roy Bailey wrote:


Roy (who lists Ebenezer Scrooge as one of his heroes!)

But the whole point of the Scrooge character, in Dickens' "Christmas
Carol", was that he reformed and celebrated Christmas with the rest of
the trolls.
He rejoined the mainstream of silly spending, false jollification and
hypocritical mainstream christianity.
Yes, a shame he bottled out.

I wonder what he was on to see all those visions.

Roy.
No need to wonder, Roy .... you're obviously on it too :-))

HNY!!!

--
Gopher .... I know my place!