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Grapevine help - careless pruning
Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and
that is to cut into growing wood. Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Rob G
wrote: I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Well they use 'super Glue' to stop bleeding in hospital. www.lincolnfuchsiasociety.info |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Apr 3, 1:55*pm, Derek wrote:
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Rob G wrote: I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Well they use 'super Glue' to stop bleeding in hospital.www.lincolnfuchsiasociety.info Just leave it, it will stop on its own in a day or so. |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Rob G
wrote: Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob If some drastic solution is needed, try dripping some candle wax carefully on the end of the stem (if it's horizontal, have a knife handy to press the wax over the "wound" before it sets). The wax should stay on long enough to seal the stem end but then break off naturally. Only warning is that you need to make sure that wax doesn't get onto buds/growing shoots - for a second or so it's very hot! |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On 04/03/2011 12:57 PM, Rob G wrote:
Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Cauterize. I've done it with a red-hot poker from the fire, does the trick although advisable to proceed with caution... -E |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
Rob G wrote:
Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Just for the future grapevines ideally should be pruned early January, but no later than mid February, as you can see why. |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On 03/04/2011 11:57, Rob G wrote:
Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob If the diameter of the branch is big enough, use a hose (jubilee) clip and tighten until the sap stops. The vessels leaking the sap are just below the bark, and compressing them with a clip shouldl stop the flow. -- Jeff |
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I'm rather worried about my grapevine seeming to start coming to life now after the mild March. There is still a risk of nasty frosts. |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Apr 3, 5:00*pm, Frank Booth Snr wrote:
Rob G wrote: Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. *Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Just for the future grapevines ideally should be pruned early January, but no later than mid February, as you can see why. Umm - I did say I knew not to do it, but was trimming back some old wood and got this little piece wrong. |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Apr 3, 5:37*pm, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 03/04/2011 11:57, Rob G wrote: Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. *Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob If the diameter of the branch is big enough, use a hose (jubilee) clip and tighten until the sap stops. *The vessels leaking the sap are just below the bark, and compressing them with a clip shouldl stop the flow. -- Jeff Unfortunately the branch is only some 6mm dia and now only 6mm long. My father was no gardener and had to employ the jubilee clip trick when he had to try and deal with a long un-maintained vine when they moved house once. If needs be and it won't stop, I'll cut further back up the spur to do that - in fact I don't really need to cut, just apply the jubilee clip, tighten and accept the loss of the spur. In 24 hours it's lost 120cc of fluid. Rob |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Apr 4, 11:59*am, Rob G wrote:
On Apr 3, 5:37*pm, Jeff Layman wrote: On 03/04/2011 11:57, Rob G wrote: Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. *Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob If the diameter of the branch is big enough, use a hose (jubilee) clip and tighten until the sap stops. *The vessels leaking the sap are just below the bark, and compressing them with a clip shouldl stop the flow. -- Jeff Unfortunately the branch is only some 6mm dia and now only 6mm long. My father was no gardener and had to employ the jubilee clip trick when he had to try and deal with a long un-maintained vine when they moved house once. If needs be and it won't stop, I'll cut further back up the spur to do that - in fact I don't really need to cut, just apply the jubilee clip, tighten and accept the loss of the spur. In 24 hours it's lost 120cc of fluid. Rob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I wonder if you can make Grape sap wine the same as you can make Birch saop wine http://www.rivercottage.net/recipes/...birch-sap-wine |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On 04/04/2011 11:59, Rob G wrote:
On Apr 3, 5:37 pm, Jeff wrote: On 03/04/2011 11:57, Rob G wrote: Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob If the diameter of the branch is big enough, use a hose (jubilee) clip and tighten until the sap stops. The vessels leaking the sap are just below the bark, and compressing them with a clip shouldl stop the flow. -- Jeff Unfortunately the branch is only some 6mm dia and now only 6mm long. My father was no gardener and had to employ the jubilee clip trick when he had to try and deal with a long un-maintained vine when they moved house once. If needs be and it won't stop, I'll cut further back up the spur to do that - in fact I don't really need to cut, just apply the jubilee clip, tighten and accept the loss of the spur. In 24 hours it's lost 120cc of fluid. Rob Why not use Jeff's great idea, but apply a tight plant twist instead? -- Spider from high ground in SE London gardening on clay |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Apr 3, 11:57*am, Rob G wrote:
Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. *Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob Just to close this off and report for anyone else finding this thread. Many thanks to those that contributed. After about three days the dripping really ceased, but in that time some 200cc of fluid were lost. It's now 6 days since my carelessness and I took off the tightly wrapped finder stall and some self bonding tape and all was dry. I doubt really if my attempts at stemming the flow had any influence - this was predicted ! The 'twig' I cut was only some 6mm in diameter - if it had been larger no doubt the fluid flow would have been more extensive and I think the hose clip 'tourniquet' would have been required. Rob |
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Grapevine help - careless pruning
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 14:34:42 -0700 (PDT), Rob G
wrote: On Apr 3, 11:57*am, Rob G wrote: Can some one tell me what to do with what I know I must never do and that is to cut into growing wood. *Careless I know and I've been maintaining two vine plants for over 10 years, but how do I stop it leaking watery sap at really rather an alarming rate ? I've tried CA glue, and special rubbery electrical tape to no avail. Rob Just to close this off and report for anyone else finding this thread. Many thanks to those that contributed. After about three days the dripping really ceased, but in that time some 200cc of fluid were lost. It's now 6 days since my carelessness and I took off the tightly wrapped finder stall and some self bonding tape and all was dry. I doubt really if my attempts at stemming the flow had any influence - this was predicted ! The 'twig' I cut was only some 6mm in diameter - if it had been larger no doubt the fluid flow would have been more extensive and I think the hose clip 'tourniquet' would have been required. Just heard GQT on Radio 4 dealing with this very subject. The gist seemed to be a) don't worry, or b) prune vines in November -- which I took to mean while they're fully dormant, so I can't see why December wouldn't be OK. Undamaged vines will sometimes drip sap from the tips of leaves: that's not a worry, either. -- Mike. |
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