Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture at www.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day


Andy

On May 13, 8:08*am, "Andy" wrote:
Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture atwww.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day

Andy

I can't see why you can't still sow grass seed, this showery weather
is just right for it.
Also you might want to think about having a website with paid
advertising on it, I doubt the benifits people would look kindly at
that, they would term it as earned income.

On May 13, 8:08*am, "Andy" wrote:
Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture atwww.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day

Andy

Seed's better - sow it now. It's been way too dry until now and you'll
have grass in a couple of weeks if the weather stays like this.

Rod

Dave Hill wrote:
I can't see why you can't still sow grass seed, this showery weather
is just right for it.

If you've got showery weather, can you post some to me, please?

"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On May 13, 8:08 am, "Andy" wrote:
Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed and
to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture atwww.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day

Andy

I can't see why you can't still sow grass seed, this showery weather
is just right for it.
Also you might want to think about having a website with paid
advertising on it, I doubt the benifits people would look kindly at
that, they would term it as earned income.


Hi Dave,

I had to laugh at this one... and you're right, so in the interest of
fairness I'll declare the £3.61 the site has made

Andy

"Rod" wrote in message
...
On May 13, 8:08 am, "Andy" wrote:
Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed and
to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture atwww.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day

Andy

Seed's better - sow it now. It's been way too dry until now and you'll
have grass in a couple of weeks if the weather stays like this.

Rod


Hi Rod,

Here's the rub... The ground where the lawn is going to be is still very
stony and needs a layer of topsoil (turf wouldn't), but due to lack of
funds, I can't afford said topsoil. So, with this in mind I decided to buy a
sieve and use it to remove the stones from the excavated soil... but... the
current damp weather has made the soil impossible to sieve!

Andy

On May 14, 8:53*am, "Andy" wrote:
"Rod" wrote in message

...





On May 13, 8:08 am, "Andy" wrote:
Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed and
to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture atwww.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day

Andy

Seed's better - sow it now. It's been way too dry until now and you'll
have grass in a couple of weeks if the weather stays like this.

Rod

Hi Rod,

Here's the rub... The ground where the lawn is going to be is still very
stony and needs a layer of topsoil (turf wouldn't), but due to lack of
funds, I can't afford said topsoil. So, with this in mind I decided to buy a
sieve and use it to remove the stones from the excavated soil... but... the
current damp weather has made the soil impossible to sieve!

Andy- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have to tell you Andy that if I sieved the soil in my garden free of
stones there'd be nothing left. Is it possible to fork it over to the
depth of a small border fork and then rake.? If it's that stony you
ought to be able to do that even if it is a bit damp. By carefully
raking with a light touch (takes a bit of practice) you should be able
to 'lose' a lot of stones under the fine tilth you're creating and
just remove the bigger ones. I take it we are on domestic lawns here,
not fine playing surfaces which are a different game altogether. Then
treading over your area after the first raking and then raking again
with a bit of general fertilizer added should be OK for a general
purpose lawn. Don't buy expensive or very cheap seed. The normal
domestic lawn seed should contain a high proportion of dwarf Ryegrass,
don't panic, this isn't the great big broad leaved fast growing
Ryegrass that farmers use, it's been bred and selected for good
colour, drought resistance and compact slow growth - it's also hard
wearing.
Please remember, a lawn is a community of mainly grasses (plants) so
you need good drainage and a reasonably firm but permeable rootzone,
you don't need to get it hard enough to drive a truck on - nothing
will grow well on that. I'm watching that happening across the road
from me and he's a guy who doesn't welcome advice :~# so it's a good
spectator sport at least.
Oh - and turf needs a good 'seedbed' as well contrary to general
opinion.

Rod

"Rod" wrote in message
...
On May 14, 8:53 am, "Andy" wrote:
"Rod" wrote in message

...





On May 13, 8:08 am, "Andy" wrote:
Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat regards sowing a new lawn from seed
and
to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Get the full picture atwww.mygardenproject.co.uk/lawn.php

Have a great day

Andy

Seed's better - sow it now. It's been way too dry until now and you'll
have grass in a couple of weeks if the weather stays like this.

Rod

Hi Rod,

Here's the rub... The ground where the lawn is going to be is still very
stony and needs a layer of topsoil (turf wouldn't), but due to lack of
funds, I can't afford said topsoil. So, with this in mind I decided to
buy a
sieve and use it to remove the stones from the excavated soil... but...
the
current damp weather has made the soil impossible to sieve!

Andy- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have to tell you Andy that if I sieved the soil in my garden free of
stones there'd be nothing left. Is it possible to fork it over to the
depth of a small border fork and then rake.? If it's that stony you
ought to be able to do that even if it is a bit damp. By carefully
raking with a light touch (takes a bit of practice) you should be able
to 'lose' a lot of stones under the fine tilth you're creating and
just remove the bigger ones. I take it we are on domestic lawns here,
not fine playing surfaces which are a different game altogether. Then
treading over your area after the first raking and then raking again
with a bit of general fertilizer added should be OK for a general
purpose lawn. Don't buy expensive or very cheap seed. The normal
domestic lawn seed should contain a high proportion of dwarf Ryegrass,
don't panic, this isn't the great big broad leaved fast growing
Ryegrass that farmers use, it's been bred and selected for good
colour, drought resistance and compact slow growth - it's also hard
wearing.
Please remember, a lawn is a community of mainly grasses (plants) so
you need good drainage and a reasonably firm but permeable rootzone,
you don't need to get it hard enough to drive a truck on - nothing
will grow well on that. I'm watching that happening across the road
from me and he's a guy who doesn't welcome advice :~# so it's a good
spectator sport at least.
Oh - and turf needs a good 'seedbed' as well contrary to general
opinion.

Rod


Hi Rod,

Thanks for the advice. If you check out the Lawn page on the site, you'll
see that I have already turned over the soil with a fork and gently raked it
flat, but it's still too stony for my liking and I can imagine lying on
grass and feeling the stones underneath if I went ahead right now.

Is it possible to sow the grass seed onto the soil as it is and then sieve
soil directly on top of the seeds, burying them in say one inch of topsoil?


Andy

"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09:33 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat
regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Grass must be greening up nicely at this time of year.

http://www.mygardenproject.co.uk/data.php

According to your website you've already spent over £3,000 on materials
for the garden and you have a list of further items you would like other
people to donate, each item specified with its cost, furniture, lights and
parasol etc; the "donations" request list amounts to close to a further
£2000. Making a total of £4,871.04.

The good news is that being unemployed, you have plenty of time to rake
stones and prepare your very tiny lawn, and hand water it after seeding.
So go forth, and cast your seed upon the ground.

Janet

This just doesn't look right to me. This site was not designed by an
amateur. I for one would like to know the relationship between "Andy"
and "Creative Design". If, as" Andy" says in another post, he's only
got a few quid in donations, he's either an unemployed web designer
(and if he's designed this site he shouldn't be unemployed) or he's
got enough cash to pay someone to design the site or he's got some
really good friends. It's gotta be one of three.

Sorry but I think this is a commercial con trick.

""Commercial;""?

""Advertising""? on this gardening newsgroup/forum?

Never!!!!!!!!!!!

Would that/could that ........... be tolerated?

Would the 'owners' accept that?

In the words of one of the newsgroup's greatest trolls who has now departed
and off reputedly playing a Pink Oboe, ""I think not""


Mike





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....................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
....................................

On May 15, 7:19*pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message

...





On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09:33 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat
regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Grass must be greening up nicely at this time of year.

http://www.mygardenproject.co.uk/data.php

* According to your website you've already spent over £3,000 on materials
for the garden and you have a list of further items you would like other
people to donate, each item specified with its cost, furniture, lights and
parasol etc; the "donations" request list amounts to close to a further
£2000. *Making a total of £4,871.04.

*The good news is that being unemployed, you have plenty of time to rake
stones and prepare your very tiny lawn, and hand water it after seeding..
So go forth, and cast your seed upon the ground.

*Janet

This just doesn't look right to me. This site was not designed by an
amateur. I for one would like to know the relationship between "Andy"
and "Creative Design". If, as" Andy" says in another post, he's only
got a few quid in donations, he's either an unemployed web designer
(and if he's designed this site he shouldn't be unemployed) or he's
got enough cash to pay someone to design the site or he's got some
really *good friends. It's gotta be one of three.

Sorry but I think this is a commercial con trick.

""Commercial;""?

""Advertising""? on this gardening newsgroup/forum?

Never!!!!!!!!!!!

Would that/could that ........... be tolerated?

Would the 'owners' accept that?

In the words of one of the newsgroup's greatest trolls who has now departed
and off reputedly playing a Pink Oboe, ""I think not""

Mike

--

...................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
...................................- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read the full thread Mike, it's advertising on the OP's website.

"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On May 15, 7:19 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message

...





On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09:33 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat
regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Grass must be greening up nicely at this time of year.

http://www.mygardenproject.co.uk/data.php

According to your website you've already spent over £3,000 on materials
for the garden and you have a list of further items you would like other
people to donate, each item specified with its cost, furniture, lights
and
parasol etc; the "donations" request list amounts to close to a further
£2000. Making a total of £4,871.04.

The good news is that being unemployed, you have plenty of time to rake
stones and prepare your very tiny lawn, and hand water it after seeding.
So go forth, and cast your seed upon the ground.

Janet

This just doesn't look right to me. This site was not designed by an
amateur. I for one would like to know the relationship between "Andy"
and "Creative Design". If, as" Andy" says in another post, he's only
got a few quid in donations, he's either an unemployed web designer
(and if he's designed this site he shouldn't be unemployed) or he's
got enough cash to pay someone to design the site or he's got some
really good friends. It's gotta be one of three.

Sorry but I think this is a commercial con trick.

""Commercial;""?

""Advertising""? on this gardening newsgroup/forum?

Never!!!!!!!!!!!

Would that/could that ........... be tolerated?

Would the 'owners' accept that?

In the words of one of the newsgroup's greatest trolls who has now
departed
and off reputedly playing a Pink Oboe, ""I think not""

Mike

--

...................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
...................................- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Read the full thread Mike, it's advertising on the OP's website.

.................................................. ........................

Doesn't snip

Just sits back and waits ;-))))))

Kindest regards

Mike


--

....................................
It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
....................................

"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09:33 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat
regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Grass must be greening up nicely at this time of year.

http://www.mygardenproject.co.uk/data.php

According to your website you've already spent over £3,000 on materials
for the garden and you have a list of further items you would like other
people to donate, each item specified with its cost, furniture, lights and
parasol etc; the "donations" request list amounts to close to a further
£2000. Making a total of £4,871.04.

The good news is that being unemployed, you have plenty of time to rake
stones and prepare your very tiny lawn, and hand water it after seeding.
So go forth, and cast your seed upon the ground.

Janet

This just doesn't look right to me. This site was not designed by an
amateur. I for one would like to know the relationship between "Andy"
and "Creative Design". If, as" Andy" says in another post, he's only
got a few quid in donations, he's either an unemployed web designer
(and if he's designed this site he shouldn't be unemployed) or he's
got enough cash to pay someone to design the site or he's got some
really good friends. It's gotta be one of three.

Sorry but I think this is a commercial con trick.

Hi Jake,

Sorry to disappoint, but it's no trick.

I taught myself how to build websites, although the html Nazis will tell you
that my code is all wrong lol, and I really could do with a job right now
(Southampton UK).

Creative Design was a name that I came up with back in the days of the Amiga
and it's just the default settings I have at www.freeparking.co.uk where I
buy my domain names.

6 years ago I left my job as a car salesman to setup an online business
building high end PCs, but due to circumstances, run out of time and money,
you can take a look at www.microbuild.com

Glad you think my site looks professional, at least I've picked up some
skills along the way.

Let me know if you want to know anything else, I've nothing to hide.


Andy

"Janet" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Hi all,

I think that I've missed the boat
regards sowing a new lawn from seed and to
be honest, I would prefer to lay turf.... but.... being currently
unemployed
means that I don't have the funds to buy turf.

Grass must be greening up nicely at this time of year.

http://www.mygardenproject.co.uk/data.php

According to your website you've already spent over £3,000 on materials
for the garden and you have a list of further items you would like other
people to donate, each item specified with its cost, furniture, lights and
parasol etc; the "donations" request list amounts to close to a further
£2000. Making a total of £4,871.04.

The good news is that being unemployed, you have plenty of time to rake
stones and prepare your very tiny lawn, and hand water it after seeding.
So go forth, and cast your seed upon the ground.

Janet


Hi Janet,

There's a lot of things to buy in order to finish the project 100% but I'm
not holding my breath on those donations... but you never know.

I do have the time but not the money, which is very frustrating as I'm only
about £300 away from finishing the first phase (P1: Building, P2: Planting,
P3: Furnishing). I just need to get the lawn sorted, skip away the excess
soil then gravel the area between the decking and the beds/patio.

Andy

On Sun, 15 May 2011 20:03:28 +0100, "Andy"
wrote:



"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
.. .

This just doesn't look right to me. This site was not designed by an
amateur. I for one would like to know the relationship between "Andy"
and "Creative Design". If, as" Andy" says in another post, he's only
got a few quid in donations, he's either an unemployed web designer
(and if he's designed this site he shouldn't be unemployed) or he's
got enough cash to pay someone to design the site or he's got some
really good friends. It's gotta be one of three.

Sorry but I think this is a commercial con trick.

Hi Jake,

Sorry to disappoint, but it's no trick.

I taught myself how to build websites, although the html Nazis will tell you
that my code is all wrong lol, and I really could do with a job right now
(Southampton UK).

Creative Design was a name that I came up with back in the days of the Amiga
and it's just the default settings I have at www.freeparking.co.uk where I
buy my domain names.

6 years ago I left my job as a car salesman to setup an online business
building high end PCs, but due to circumstances, run out of time and money,
you can take a look at www.microbuild.com

Glad you think my site looks professional, at least I've picked up some
skills along the way.

Let me know if you want to know anything else, I've nothing to hide.


Andy

Andy

I'll stand by what I said - the site (and the underlying code) is
beyond what I'd expect from an amateur so congrats on that. I know
about your PC building venture as it's easy to track domain
registrations if you know how and it was that link that led me to
believe this was a commercial thing - you know, driving traffic to a
site to get advertising benefits. Also the formal bits (T&C, privacy)
are a bit too formally worded for a "private" site.

The code isn't bad at all. I might do something differently but vive
la difference as they say.

Whilst I doubt you'll make much money from the site, it will hopefully
demonstrate to those out there that you can do it. And with the
ongoing shift from MS server platforms, PhP is a good skill to market.
Good luck with that. I think IT people are definitely preferable to
car salesmen!

As to the garden, you won't find donors here but you wil find loads of
advice if you need it.

Cheers

Jake

"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 May 2011 20:03:28 +0100, "Andy"
wrote:



"Jake" Nospam@invalid wrote in message
. ..

This just doesn't look right to me. This site was not designed by an
amateur. I for one would like to know the relationship between "Andy"
and "Creative Design". If, as" Andy" says in another post, he's only
got a few quid in donations, he's either an unemployed web designer
(and if he's designed this site he shouldn't be unemployed) or he's
got enough cash to pay someone to design the site or he's got some
really good friends. It's gotta be one of three.

Sorry but I think this is a commercial con trick.

Hi Jake,

Sorry to disappoint, but it's no trick.

I taught myself how to build websites, although the html Nazis will tell
you
that my code is all wrong lol, and I really could do with a job right now
(Southampton UK).

Creative Design was a name that I came up with back in the days of the
Amiga
and it's just the default settings I have at www.freeparking.co.uk where I
buy my domain names.

6 years ago I left my job as a car salesman to setup an online business
building high end PCs, but due to circumstances, run out of time and
money,
you can take a look at www.microbuild.com

Glad you think my site looks professional, at least I've picked up some
skills along the way.

Let me know if you want to know anything else, I've nothing to hide.


Andy

Andy

I'll stand by what I said - the site (and the underlying code) is
beyond what I'd expect from an amateur so congrats on that. I know
about your PC building venture as it's easy to track domain
registrations if you know how and it was that link that led me to
believe this was a commercial thing - you know, driving traffic to a
site to get advertising benefits. Also the formal bits (T&C, privacy)
are a bit too formally worded for a "private" site.

The code isn't bad at all. I might do something differently but vive
la difference as they say.

Whilst I doubt you'll make much money from the site, it will hopefully
demonstrate to those out there that you can do it. And with the
ongoing shift from MS server platforms, PhP is a good skill to market.
Good luck with that. I think IT people are definitely preferable to
car salesmen!

As to the garden, you won't find donors here but you wil find loads of
advice if you need it.

Cheers

Jake


Hi Jake,

Thanks for the comments. Just to give you some more info, I was posting all
my garden photos to my personal Facebook page and when I run out of money, I
thought 'why not put all those photos to good use?' which is why I built the
site (only took a month).

I was hoping that it would make some money towards the cost of completing
the project, but it seems that sites that rely on advertising have to have
loads of visitors (like 1,000s per day), so I've tried to do a bit of
organic SEO like Twitter/FB and a few garden forums but TBH I'm not getting
anywhere near the amount of visitors I need.

In the 3 months it has been live, the affiliate links have earned me
nothing, nobody has donated and I've only made £3.61 from Google Adsense and
you have to reach $100 before they pay out

Cheers


Andy