Just been to an NGS garden. There was a shrub with fruit that I hadn't
seen before. According to the owner, it was Exochorda (x macrantha "The
Bride" apparently).

Does Exochorda commonly produce fruit? The owner had never seen fruit
before, and I haven't come across it. But then it's (a) usually in
flower when I see it, or (b) I paid no attention to a shrub not in
flower so just didn't notice it.

Can those who grow Exochorda confirm that it regularly fruits (or
doesn't) as the case may be?

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Jeff

On 06/12/2011 05:23 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
Just been to an NGS garden. There was a shrub with fruit that I hadn't
seen before. According to the owner, it was Exochorda (x macrantha "The
Bride" apparently).

Does Exochorda commonly produce fruit? The owner had never seen fruit
before, and I haven't come across it. But then it's (a) usually in
flower when I see it, or (b) I paid no attention to a shrub not in
flower so just didn't notice it.

Can those who grow Exochorda confirm that it regularly fruits (or
doesn't) as the case may be?


Never seen any fruit on mine, FWIW. Not a very mature plant either,
though it's put on a lot of height.

-E

On Jun 12, 5:42*pm, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:08:31 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-06-12 16:23:20 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

Just been to an NGS garden. *There was a shrub with fruit that I hadn't
seen before. *According to the owner, it was Exochorda (x macrantha
"The Bride" apparently).

Does Exochorda commonly produce fruit? *The owner had never seen fruit
before, and I haven't come across it. *But then it's (a) usually in
flower when I see it, or (b) I paid no attention to a shrub not in
flower so just didn't notice it.

Can those who grow Exochorda confirm that it regularly fruits (or
doesn't) as the case may be?

I'm not going out to look at ours in this but here's something that
suggests they have seed capsules, if that's what is meant *
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Exochorda

Are not all "fruits" essentially seed capsules?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but I would differentiate between wet (Fruit) and dry (Capsule)
Google Images for Exochorda fruit

In message
, Dave
Hill writes
On Jun 12, 5:42*pm, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:08:31 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-06-12 16:23:20 +0100, Jeff Layman said:

Just been to an NGS garden. *There was a shrub with fruit that I hadn't
seen before. *According to the owner, it was Exochorda (x macrantha
"The Bride" apparently).

Does Exochorda commonly produce fruit? *The owner had never seen fruit
before, and I haven't come across it. *But then it's (a) usually in
flower when I see it, or (b) I paid no attention to a shrub not in
flower so just didn't notice it.

Can those who grow Exochorda confirm that it regularly fruits (or
doesn't) as the case may be?

I'm not going out to look at ours in this but here's something that
suggests they have seed capsules, if that's what is meant *
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Exochorda

Are not all "fruits" essentially seed capsules?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but I would differentiate between wet (Fruit) and dry (Capsule)
Google Images for Exochorda fruit

In botanical jargon they are all fruits. A capsule is a particular type
of dry fruit, which includes poricidal capsules (as in Papaver) and
loculicidal capsules (as in Hibiscus). Exocharda apparently has a
coccetum, which is defined as "an aggregate fruit with dehiscent
fruitlets opening along the dorsal and ventral sutures".

http://www.kew.org/ucm/groups/public...cont_029192.pd
f
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Stewart Robert Hinsley

On 12/06/2011 17:08, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-06-12 16:23:20 +0100, Jeff said:

Just been to an NGS garden. There was a shrub with fruit that I hadn't
seen before. According to the owner, it was Exochorda (x macrantha
"The Bride" apparently).

Does Exochorda commonly produce fruit? The owner had never seen fruit
before, and I haven't come across it. But then it's (a) usually in
flower when I see it, or (b) I paid no attention to a shrub not in
flower so just didn't notice it.

Can those who grow Exochorda confirm that it regularly fruits (or
doesn't) as the case may be?

I'm not going out to look at ours in this but here's something that
suggests they have seed capsules, if that's what is meant
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Exochorda

Yes, that is what was on the plant.

I tend to use "fruit" in a very simplistic manner - it's the part of the
plant which carries or is the seed! It doesn't matter what it looks
like - berry, fruit, nut, etc. Maybe "fruiting body" might be a little
more descriptive. Or you could use the definition Stuart supplied!

--

Jeff

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:24:47 +0100, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:

In message
, Dave
Hill writes
[...]

Yes, but I would differentiate between wet (Fruit) and dry (Capsule)
Google Images for Exochorda fruit

In botanical jargon they are all fruits. A capsule is a particular type
of dry fruit, which includes poricidal capsules (as in Papaver) and
loculicidal capsules (as in Hibiscus). Exocharda apparently has a
coccetum, which is defined as "an aggregate fruit with dehiscent
fruitlets opening along the dorsal and ventral sutures".


Atropa bella-donna, on the other hand, has a homicidal bacca. (Sorry:
the Devil made me do it.)

http://www.kew.org/ucm/groups/public...cont_029192.pd
f

That's a good link: thanks.

--
Mike.