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I've just been thinking of how the frost will be improving my sprouts, and
realised I've left the pumpkins out in the cold.

Will it be impossible to store them now if they're frost damaged?


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On Oct 20, 1:51*pm, "Bertie Doe" wrote:
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I've just been thinking of how the frost will be improving my sprouts,
and
realised I've left the pumpkins out in the cold.


Will it be impossible to store them now if they're frost damaged?


I don't think frost damages pumpkins. *In fact, wasn't there an old
country western song?


Frost on the puuumpkin,
Mud on the plough.
I'm just a buuumpkin,
She's just a cow...


OK, I made up the last 2 lines.


I grew 4 pumpkin plants this year and limited each plants to one fruit. The
3 that have turned a nice yellow have been lifted, but all 4 are quite
small, probably 1/3rd the weight of the parent. These were seed saved from a
monster purchased from Morrisons last October. Puzzling as the soil is good
and they were fed 3 times on Growmore.- Hide quoted text -

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The trade reports this year say that pumpkins are smaller than normmal
due to the weather.
Dont wory, it's not just you.
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
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On Oct 20, 1:51 pm, "Bertie Doe" wrote:
"Emery Davis" wrote in ...

On 10/20/2011 12:11 PM, wrote:





I've just been thinking of how the frost will be improving my sprouts,
and
realised I've left the pumpkins out in the cold.


Will it be impossible to store them now if they're frost damaged?


I don't think frost damages pumpkins. In fact, wasn't there an old
country western song?


Frost on the puuumpkin,
Mud on the plough.
I'm just a buuumpkin,
She's just a cow...


OK, I made up the last 2 lines.


I grew 4 pumpkin plants this year and limited each plants to one fruit.
The
3 that have turned a nice yellow have been lifted, but all 4 are quite
small, probably 1/3rd the weight of the parent. These were seed saved
from a
monster purchased from Morrisons last October. Puzzling as the soil is
good
and they were fed 3 times on Growmore.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The trade reports this year say that pumpkins are smaller than normmal
due to the weather.
Dont wory, it's not just you.


The BBC quoted the RHS as saying that they were half the normal size

Agh that's a relief, I was beginning to think maybe the original was an F1.
They're not big enough for Halloween masks (huzzah!!) so my wife is going to
make pumpkin pie (for the first time).
It may have been a bad year for pumpkins, but it's been a great one for
apples. Next-door has given me 30 lbs each of dessert and Bramleys.
Lunchtime I was in my local Homebrew getting some beer bottles and caps and
the owner has completely sold out of cider presses and fermentation bins. I
bought one of those hand presses at a car boot. It'll be powerful enough for
rhubarb but NOT apples.




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On 2011-10-20, Dave Hill wrote:

On Oct 20, 1:51Â*pm, "Bertie Doe" wrote:


I grew 4 pumpkin plants this year and limited each plants to one fruit. The
3 that have turned a nice yellow have been lifted, but all 4 are quite
small, probably 1/3rd the weight of the parent. These were seed saved from a
monster purchased from Morrisons last October. Puzzling as the soil is good
and they were fed 3 times on Growmore.- Hide quoted text -


The trade reports this year say that pumpkins are smaller than normmal
due to the weather.
Dont wory, it's not just you.


Well, we ended up with one pumpkin this year (an improvement over last
year), and it looks like a somewhat squashed marrow: it's even mostly
marrow-striped, with a small slightly orange patch on the underside.
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Emery Davis wrote:
I've just been thinking of how the frost will be improving my sprouts, and
realised I've left the pumpkins out in the cold.

Will it be impossible to store them now if they're frost damaged?


I don't think frost damages pumpkins.


Hmm. I know my pumpkins have rotted when they've been stored in the
summerhouse and the door has been left open late in the winter and they've
frosted overnight. But that may not be the same as an early frost.

Frost on the puuumpkin,
Mud on the plough.
I'm just a buuumpkin,
She's just a cow...

OK, I made up the last 2 lines.


I like your version. :-)
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Dave Hill wrote:
The trade reports this year say that pumpkins are smaller than normmal
due to the weather.
Dont wory, it's not just you.


Mine aren't too bad. 1 'normal' size, 2 large, and 1 quite hefty.
But all very pale orange (which will be the variety, but annoying that of
all those planted it's only the pale ones that survived)
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On 20 Oct 2011 21:59:18 GMT, wrote:

Dave Hill wrote:
The trade reports this year say that pumpkins are smaller than normmal
due to the weather.
Dont wory, it's not just you.


Mine aren't too bad. 1 'normal' size, 2 large, and 1 quite hefty.


Reminds me of the man from Devizes.


The pale yellow man with 3 breasts?


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I grew 4 pumpkin plants this year and limited each plants to one fruit. The
3 that have turned a nice yellow have been lifted, but all 4 are quite
small, probably 1/3rd the weight of the parent. These were seed saved from a
monster purchased from Morrisons last October. Puzzling as the soil is good
and they were fed 3 times on Growmore.
Seed taken from a pumpkin you bought in a shop are unlikely to give the same pumpkin from the one you took it from. Two reasons:
(1) Seed taken from a F1 hybrid never produces the same as the parent, and a lot of shop-bought veg are from are F1 hybrid plants
(2) Curcurbits are highly promiscuous and cross very easily with anything similar in the vicinity, whatever is on the insects feet, so unless special precautions have been taken to pollinate by hand and close off the flower to insects, the seed will often be a cross.

Only way to get reliable squash seed is to grow true varieties, not hybrids, and take the special precautions necessary to get non-crossed seeds, or buy the seeds from a seed specialist who knows what he's doing.


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Bertie Doe;939845 Wrote:
I grew 4 pumpkin plants this year and limited each plants to one fruit.
The
3 that have turned a nice yellow have been lifted, but all 4 are quite
small, probably 1/3rd the weight of the parent. These were seed saved
from a
monster purchased from Morrisons last October. Puzzling as the soil is
good
and they were fed 3 times on Growmore.

Seed taken from a pumpkin you bought in a shop are unlikely to give the
same pumpkin from the one you took it from. Two reasons:
(1) Seed taken from a F1 hybrid never produces the same as the parent,
and a lot of shop-bought veg are from are F1 hybrid plants
(2) Curcurbits are highly promiscuous and cross very easily with
anything similar in the vicinity, whatever is on the insects feet, so
unless special precautions have been taken to pollinate by hand and
close off the flower to insects, the seed will often be a cross.

Only way to get reliable squash seed is to grow true varieties, not
hybrids, and take the special precautions necessary to get non-crossed
seeds, or buy the seeds from a seed specialist who knows what he's
doing.

Thanks, I'll definitely purchase seed next time, rather than save from old.






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On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:34:46 +0100, Martin wrote:



The trade reports this year say that pumpkins are smaller than normmal
due to the weather.
Dont wory, it's not just you.


The BBC quoted the RHS as saying that they were half the normal size



Ooo then I'd have grown a ginormous monster!
I only have one though.
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