On 11/01/2012 18:02, Dave Hill wrote:
On Jan 11, 4:33 pm, wrote:
On 10/01/2012 21:50, Phil Gurr wrote:





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A few years ago, someone helpfully posted a recipe which used aspirin to
help cure virussed plants. I'm sure I marked it as interesting, but now
cannot find it.

I have a patch of isolated Leucojum bulbs in the garden which are
displaying virus-like symptoms. When in flower, the green marking on each
petal is elongated into a central stripe, which is potentially *very*
attractive. Sadly, there is some distortion in the flowerheads (due to
virus?) which spoils their beauty and prevents me from propagating them.

I'm really interested in curing the virus and growing these bulbs on to
find out if the attractive striping i)persists without the virus, and
ii)if that striping is generally stable over a few generations without
reverting to the virussed distorted from, which certainly isn't
attractive.

Does anyone remember the aspirin recipe or, indeed, have any other advice?
Thank you for your time.

Standard treatment to remove virus from chrysanth stools is hot water.
Stools are immersed in water at around 126F. for five minutes and then
plunged into cold water, prior to boxing up. The old 'Burco' type boiler was
ideal for this. I have also experimented with Dahlia tubers and found that
they require ten minutes for the treatment to be effective. Leucojum bulbs
should respond well to this treatment, a large saucepan is all that you need
but take care that the water does not rise above 130F.

Phil

Thanks for that, Phil. I must admit the idea of scalding my precious
bulbs is worrying, but I am taking notes. I will try the aspirin
solution first, in the knowledge that I can try scalding if it doesn't
work. Should I just scald the entire bulb as it grows in its pot, or
remove all the soil from it and then plunge it? I suspect there are
roots now, since it's in growth already; will these survive scalding, or
should I wait till the bulbs are dormant and rootless and try then. Any
ideas? I ask this because I understand that bulbs will not replace
their roots when damaged, as other plants do.

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Spider
from high ground in SE London
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130f is not scalding, its just over 10c above what would be calledas
hand hot, you probably use it a lot warmer when you hand wash dishes.
David



Quite so! (Blush). I'll engage brain first next time ... now where
*did* I put it?

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

On 11/01/2012 20:56, Phil Gurr wrote:
wrote in message
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On 10/01/2012 21:50, Phil Gurr wrote:
wrote in message
...
A few years ago, someone helpfully posted a recipe which used aspirin to
help cure virussed plants. I'm sure I marked it as interesting, but now
cannot find it.

I have a patch of isolated Leucojum bulbs in the garden which are
displaying virus-like symptoms. When in flower, the green marking on
each
petal is elongated into a central stripe, which is potentially *very*
attractive. Sadly, there is some distortion in the flowerheads (due to
virus?) which spoils their beauty and prevents me from propagating them.

I'm really interested in curing the virus and growing these bulbs on to
find out if the attractive striping i)persists without the virus, and
ii)if that striping is generally stable over a few generations without
reverting to the virussed distorted from, which certainly isn't
attractive.

Does anyone remember the aspirin recipe or, indeed, have any other
advice?
Thank you for your time.

Standard treatment to remove virus from chrysanth stools is hot water.
Stools are immersed in water at around 126F. for five minutes and then
plunged into cold water, prior to boxing up. The old 'Burco' type boiler
was
ideal for this. I have also experimented with Dahlia tubers and found
that
they require ten minutes for the treatment to be effective. Leucojum
bulbs
should respond well to this treatment, a large saucepan is all that you
need
but take care that the water does not rise above 130F.

Phil



Thanks for that, Phil. I must admit the idea of scalding my precious
bulbs is worrying, but I am taking notes. I will try the aspirin solution
first, in the knowledge that I can try scalding if it doesn't work.
Should I just scald the entire bulb as it grows in its pot, or remove all
the soil from it and then plunge it? I suspect there are roots now, since
it's in growth already; will these survive scalding, or should I wait till
the bulbs are dormant and rootless and try then. Any ideas? I ask this
because I understand that bulbs will not replace their roots when damaged,
as other plants do.

It can only be done with dormant bulbs and tubers.

Phil



Thanks, Phil. Not surprised, really. That means I'll have to till next
winter for that particular remedy, so I'll try the aspirin trick in the
meantime.

Ta ever so much for your help.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

In article
,
Dave Hill writes
Except that's paracetamol, and won't take the headache out of growing
plants
Ah but you aren't supposed to take it! Your plants might have a
headache with the virus as well
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

In article
,
Dave Hill writes
Never heard of hot water treatment for virus, always thought it was
for root eelworm, Interesting!
I wonder how a combination of hot water and asprin would work?

Add a drop of whisky and some honey and lemon while you're at it. Might
not kill the virus but they'll feel much better.

--
regards andyw

On Jan 12, 12:09*pm, news wrote:
In article
,
Dave Hill writes

Never heard of hot water treatment for virus, always thought it was
for root eelworm, Interesting!
I wonder how a combination of hot water and asprin would work?

Add a drop of whisky and some honey and lemon while you're at it. Might
not kill the virus but they'll feel much better.

--
regards * andyw

Just take the whiskey and you'll soon forget about the virus.

On 12/01/2012 13:38, Dave Hill wrote:
On Jan 12, 12:09 pm, wrote:
In article
,
Dave writes

Never heard of hot water treatment for virus, always thought it was
for root eelworm, Interesting!
I wonder how a combination of hot water and asprin would work?

Add a drop of whisky and some honey and lemon while you're at it. Might
not kill the virus but they'll feel much better.

--
regards andyw

Just take the whiskey and you'll soon forget about the virus.



Now *that* sounds much better! :@} hic

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay