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What's all this about a drought?
I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mo http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. |
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What's all this about a drought?
On Feb 20, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:
I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. What is your question/point? |
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What's all this about a drought?
On Feb 20, 7:58*am, harry wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:14*am, Doug wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. What is your question/point? Isn't it obvious? I live in SE England with a very wet garden while the above claims there is a severe drought in SE England. My rainwater buckets are full to the brim so why the apparent inconsistency? Doug. |
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What's all this about a drought?
"Doug" wrote in message ... On Feb 20, 7:58 am, harry wrote: On Feb 20, 6:14 am, Doug wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. What is your question/point? Isn't it obvious? I live in SE England with a very wet garden while the above claims there is a severe drought in SE England. My rainwater buckets are full to the brim so why the apparent inconsistency? Doug. Between us, in our two gardens, (ours and our daughter's) we have 12 full sized water butts. All full. We have had hardly any rain so why are they all full? We don't water much at this time of the year :-) This year, we have only had two rainy days if my memory serves me correct. Mike South East Coast of the Isle of Wight. You tell me if that is SE or SW -- .................................... I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight. .................................... |
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What's all this about a drought?
On Feb 20, 10:28*am, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:14:34 -0800 (PST), Doug wrote: On Feb 20, 7:58*am, harry wrote: On Feb 20, 6:14*am, Doug wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. What is your question/point? Isn't it obvious? I live in SE England with a very wet garden while the above claims there is a severe drought in SE England. My rainwater buckets are full to the brim so why the apparent inconsistency? The answer is in what you quoted. Why are you not being specific? Doug. |
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The graphic in the BBC article tells me that the Chilterns have had about 80-90% of our normal rainfall, which is consistent with what my rain-gauge tells me. Nevertheless the River Chess in nearby Chesham has completely dried up, so I suspect that it is at least partly to do with timing of the rainfall - there was a rather wet patch in the summer, which won't get into the water table, but then a very dry autumn. However this timing did substantially reduce watering demand on the garden, as one doesn't do much watering in late summer/autumn. London itself hasn't been unusually dry. The more unusually dry areas have been a very large part of central England, and also the far SE (Kent, East Sussex). Even there, 70% of normal rainfall probably doesn't feel specially dry, but the extent of the area having only 70% or less has a large cumulative effect on the quantity of water resources available, especially in a country where water consumption isn't very different from water landing - we get away with that by recycling water from sewage works back into the system. |
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What's all this about a drought?
In article , echinosum
writes The graphic in the BBC article tells me that the Chilterns have had about 80-90% of our normal rainfall, which is consistent with what my rain-gauge tells me. Nevertheless the River Chess in nearby Chesham has completely dried up, so I suspect that it is at least partly to do with timing of the rainfall Yet the Misbourne down here through Amersham is quite high! (Mind you if the HS2 comes no doubt it'll drain Shardeloes lake and we'll lose it all) -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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What's all this about a drought?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... They want to be able to put up water bills to pay for improvements that water companies have removed and now need to put back? -- http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk |
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What's all this about a drought?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mo http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow flies we're about 15 miles apart. If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as it's so wet. Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short distances. And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an area has enough or not enough water. Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay. For those that notice such things - I'm changing my Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me! |
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What's all this about a drought?
"Jake" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mo http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow flies we're about 15 miles apart. If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as it's so wet. Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short distances. And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an area has enough or not enough water. Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay. For those that notice such things - I'm changing my Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me! We have the same variation on the Isle of Wight here. My garage is at the bottom of my gardens, a distance of about 100 feet ............ yes we have a small area for our gardens, ............. and one night I had to dash through the rain to get to the car to go to the Theatre in Newport, 9 miles away. Before I got to Newport, dry roads and pavements. By the time I got into Newport, people were walking about in shirt sleeves. Snow, when we get it, is the same. North of the line Bembridge to Yarmouth can be snowbound but South of the line clear. Mike -- .................................... I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight. .................................... |
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What's all this about a drought?
On Feb 20, 11:31*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Jake" wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug wrote: I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet we have this... "The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels lower than in 1976. She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east Midlands. The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of Marlborough. The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes". Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..." Mo http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256 Doug. London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow flies we're about 15 miles apart. If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as it's so wet. Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short distances. And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an area has enough or not enough water. Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay. For those that notice such things - I'm changing my Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me! We have the same variation on the Isle of Wight here. My garage is at the bottom of my gardens, a distance of about 100 feet ............ yes we have a small area for our gardens, ............. and one night I had to dash through the rain to get to the car to go to the Theatre in Newport, 9 miles away. Before I got to Newport, dry roads and pavements. By the time I got into Newport, people were walking about in shirt sleeves. Snow, when we get it, is the same. North of the line Bembridge to Yarmouth can be snowbound but South of the line clear. There may be short-term variations but I am talking here about a period of several months during which there seems to have been at least an average rainfall in my garden. I suspect we are actually talking large areas. On TV last night there was a map of drought areas which included Kent and East Anglia but not London so the question I am concerned with is there likely to be a hosepipe ban in London, which has not had a drought? Doug. |
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Where does your tap water come from? If it comes from a drought area, it's likely you'll get a hosepipe ban.
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The problem is that utility companies sold off by the Conservatives are now a money making business not a service.
We get more than enough rainfall in the country. The government should stop dividends paid to shareholders of utility companies until there's enough reservoir capacity and they've fixed all the leaks. "Simples." There's so many leaks, many just ignored, that utility companies drop the water pressure overnight, not because of the reduction in demand but because the leaks would be more evident than they are, as the pressure will be greater.
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What's all this about a drought?
Jake wrote in
: Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn. Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay. For those that notice such things - I'm changing my Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me! Yes he has a lot to learn Jake, but that is why he has come to this group, to learn. I am sure you or another knowledgeable person could point him to a link (www.?) to help with his question.(Shh! Don't tell anybody but I want to know too.) Baz |
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