I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

On Feb 20, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:
I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.


What is your question/point?

On Feb 20, 7:58*am, harry wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:


I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

What is your question/point?

Isn't it obvious? I live in SE England with a very wet garden while
the above claims there is a severe drought in SE England. My rainwater
buckets are full to the brim so why the apparent inconsistency?

Doug.

"Doug" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 7:58 am, harry wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:14 am, Doug wrote:


I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

What is your question/point?

Isn't it obvious? I live in SE England with a very wet garden while
the above claims there is a severe drought in SE England. My rainwater
buckets are full to the brim so why the apparent inconsistency?

Doug.


Between us, in our two gardens, (ours and our daughter's) we have 12 full
sized water butts. All full. We have had hardly any rain so why are they all
full? We don't water much at this time of the year :-)

This year, we have only had two rainy days if my memory serves me correct.

Mike
South East Coast of the Isle of Wight.
You tell me if that is SE or SW


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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...


They want to be able to put up water bills to pay for improvements
that water companies have removed and now need to put back?

--
http://www.voucherfreebies.co.uk

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east
end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow
flies we're about 15 miles apart.

If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the
last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm
having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as
it's so wet.

Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short
distances.

And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an
area has enough or not enough water.

Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay.

For those that notice such things - I'm changing my
Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me!

"Jake" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east
end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow
flies we're about 15 miles apart.

If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the
last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm
having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as
it's so wet.

Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short
distances.

And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an
area has enough or not enough water.

Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay.

For those that notice such things - I'm changing my
Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me!


We have the same variation on the Isle of Wight here. My garage is at the
bottom of my gardens, a distance of about 100 feet ............ yes we have
a small area for our gardens, ............. and one night I had to dash
through the rain to get to the car to go to the Theatre in Newport, 9 miles
away. Before I got to Newport, dry roads and pavements. By the time I got
into Newport, people were walking about in shirt sleeves.

Snow, when we get it, is the same. North of the line Bembridge to Yarmouth
can be snowbound but South of the line clear.

Mike

--

....................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................

Jake wrote in
:


Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay.

For those that notice such things - I'm changing my
Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me!


Yes he has a lot to learn Jake, but that is why he has come to this group,
to learn. I am sure you or another knowledgeable person could point him to
a link (www.?) to help with his question.(Shh! Don't tell anybody but I
want to know too.)

Baz

It was curious walking around Chiltern Woods in October - it had been really rather dry for a couple of months, but nevertheless the ground was very muddy. It seems that the conditions were insufficient to drain away or evaporate such due and light rain as had occurred, so the ground was very wet.

The graphic in the BBC article tells me that the Chilterns have had about 80-90% of our normal rainfall, which is consistent with what my rain-gauge tells me. Nevertheless the River Chess in nearby Chesham has completely dried up, so I suspect that it is at least partly to do with timing of the rainfall - there was a rather wet patch in the summer, which won't get into the water table, but then a very dry autumn. However this timing did substantially reduce watering demand on the garden, as one doesn't do much watering in late summer/autumn.

London itself hasn't been unusually dry. The more unusually dry areas have been a very large part of central England, and also the far SE (Kent, East Sussex). Even there, 70% of normal rainfall probably doesn't feel specially dry, but the extent of the area having only 70% or less has a large cumulative effect on the quantity of water resources available, especially in a country where water consumption isn't very different from water landing - we get away with that by recycling water from sewage works back into the system.

On Feb 20, 12:07*pm, Baz wrote:
Jake wrote :



Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay.

For those that notice such things - I'm changing my
Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me!

Yes he has a lot to learn Jake, but that is why he has come to this group,
to learn. I am sure you or another knowledgeable person could point him to
a link (www.?) to help with his question.(Shh! Don't tell anybody but I
want to know too.)

Baz


As has been said by my fellow Swansea Bay Watch member. you don't need
to go fat to have a change in the weather, here we are half way upo a
mountain at 450ft + (Well it's called a mountain though it is only
998ft when the grass is cut).
Wet air comming off the sea is forced up a thousand feet and so sheds
some of it's water as rain, another of the Swansea bay 3 lives on the
other side of the "mountain" and has yet another different set of
weather to either Jake or myself.
There are times when we are in sunshine and the next "Mountain" to the
East of us which is around 5 miles away and seperated from us by a
river valley can be having snow, as we had just a few weks ago. They
had snow, we were clear.
When the Oil refinery was active the steam from the cooling towers
would rise and form cloud which would ofte go inland on the East side
of the river, this would block the sun from them and make it cooler
for them than for us.
Many things can cause these MIcro climatic changes.
David @ the wet end of Swansea Bay.

In message , Jake
writes
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east
end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow
flies we're about 15 miles apart.

If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the
last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm
having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as
it's so wet.

Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short
distances.

And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an
area has enough or not enough water.

Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling happily from the dryer end of Swansea Bay.

For those that notice such things - I'm changing my
Usenet provider to News.Individual.NET. It's still me!
A friend near Worcester has had to reduce his sheep dog training classes
and get rid of some sheep because the ground is so dry the grass just is
not growing.
--
hugh

"Doug" wrote in message
...
I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/no-d...ent-43078.aspx

Kindest regards

Mike

--

....................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................

I suppose the other point is that he live in London and has a wet garden ... but if the areas that supply London with its tap water are dry, then he's going to have to start using that water butt for washing his car ;-)

On Feb 20, 10:28*am, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:14:34 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:









On Feb 20, 7:58*am, harry wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:14*am, Doug wrote:

I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

What is your question/point?

Isn't it obvious? I live in SE England with a very wet garden while
the above claims there is a severe drought in SE England. My rainwater
buckets are full to the brim so why the apparent inconsistency?

The answer is in what you quoted.

Why are you not being specific?

Doug.

On Feb 20, 11:22*am, Jake wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:14:28 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:









I live in London and my garden has been sopping wet for months and yet
we have this...

"The Environment Secretary Caroline Spelman is hosting a drought
summit later as parts of England struggle with groundwater levels
lower than in 1976.

She has invited water companies, farmers and wildlife groups to
discuss the situation in south-east England, East Anglia and the east
Midlands.

The River Kennet in Wiltshire has dried up completely west of
Marlborough.

The Angling Trust's chief executive Mark Lloyd said "it's a pile of
stones you can walk across in ordinary shoes".

Many rivers in south-east England have also dried up..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17091256

Doug.

London is, I think, about 35 miles from east to west. I'm at the east
end of Swansea Bay. Another URGler is at the west end. As the crow
flies we're about 15 miles apart.

If you follow this group, you'll know that I've often moaned thru the
last winter that my ground is dry, my water butt is empty and I'm
having to resort to using a hose. OTOH, he's sinking into the mud as
it's so wet.

Significant differences in rainfall occur over surprisingly short
distances.

And the amount of rain is only one factor in determining whether an
area has enough or not enough water.

Your question indicates that you have a lot to learn.

It also seems to indicate that weather reports are useless if what you
say is true.

Doug.