Now the garden has dried out, and I mean dried(huge cracks on top) I have
had a lawn maintenence firm in to feed and weed the 2 lawns.

He pointed out that in my veg patch there is one area with Mares Tail and I
have not seen that before in my garden. It is right in the middle of my
newly planted runner beans. What to do? Dig them out and resow the beans?

On the lawns there is Speedwell, again have never seen before but the lawn
weedkiller should eliminate it? I am told it is very difficult to get shut
of.

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

Thanks.
Baz

On 30/05/2012 12:24, Baz wrote:
Now the garden has dried out, and I mean dried(huge cracks on top) I have
had a lawn maintenence firm in to feed and weed the 2 lawns.

He pointed out that in my veg patch there is one area with Mares Tail and I
have not seen that before in my garden. It is right in the middle of my
newly planted runner beans. What to do? Dig them out and resow the beans?

No. Just pull out any new mares tail shoots as soon as you spot them.
Don't let it see the light. Any that are clear of other wanted plants
hit with gel formulation glyphosate(*) after bruising gently to get past
the non-stick silica exoskeleton of the plant. Ordinary glyphosate and
wall paper paste is off label use but much cheaper.

On the lawns there is Speedwell, again have never seen before but the lawn
weedkiller should eliminate it? I am told it is very difficult to get shut
of.

I leave wildflowers in my lawn like speedwell and even the odd daisy and
bellum. I think sterile prefect green grass looks boring. YMMV

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

They won't inconvenience the beans so I would just pull up any that you
see and weedkill those that are easy to get at. Don't allow it to have
green shoots in the sunshine and force it to regrow from underground to
deplete the stored energy in the roots/rhizomes.

After the season is over go digging to get rid and expect to reach the
antipodes before you find the deepest roots!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, Baz wrote:

Now the garden has dried out, and I mean dried(huge cracks on top) I have
had a lawn maintenence firm in to feed and weed the 2 lawns.

He pointed out that in my veg patch there is one area with Mares Tail and I
have not seen that before in my garden. It is right in the middle of my
newly planted runner beans. What to do? Dig them out and resow the beans?

On the lawns there is Speedwell, again have never seen before but the lawn
weedkiller should eliminate it? I am told it is very difficult to get shut
of.

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

Thanks.
Baz

Mares tail roots go deep and you're unlikely to get the whole plant
out by digging. The slightest bit of plant will regrow. My "trick" has
been to buy a syringe or two from the local chemist and fill with
glyphosate solution. Simply cut off the mares tail shoot a couple of
inches above ground and inject the solution into the cut end. Repeat
every 4-5 days for 2-3 weeks or until the shoot browns and dies. It
helps to stick a plant label in the ground next to the shoot so you
can find it.

Whilst I still have the stuff appearing here and there (in a new-build
property it usually starts to appear after about 10 years), it has
never yet returned in an area I've treated in this way. Neighbours
who've tried the same approach also report success.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the asylum formerly known as the
dry end of Swansea Bay.

Jake wrote in
:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, Baz wrote:

Now the garden has dried out, and I mean dried(huge cracks on top) I
have had a lawn maintenence firm in to feed and weed the 2 lawns.

He pointed out that in my veg patch there is one area with Mares Tail
and I have not seen that before in my garden. It is right in the
middle of my newly planted runner beans. What to do? Dig them out and
resow the beans?

On the lawns there is Speedwell, again have never seen before but the
lawn weedkiller should eliminate it? I am told it is very difficult to
get shut of.

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

Thanks.
Baz

Mares tail roots go deep and you're unlikely to get the whole plant
out by digging. The slightest bit of plant will regrow. My "trick" has
been to buy a syringe or two from the local chemist and fill with
glyphosate solution. Simply cut off the mares tail shoot a couple of
inches above ground and inject the solution into the cut end. Repeat
every 4-5 days for 2-3 weeks or until the shoot browns and dies. It
helps to stick a plant label in the ground next to the shoot so you
can find it.

Whilst I still have the stuff appearing here and there (in a new-build
property it usually starts to appear after about 10 years), it has
never yet returned in an area I've treated in this way. Neighbours
who've tried the same approach also report success.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the asylum formerly known as the
dry end of Swansea Bay.


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe? I will do it but
it seems to me that it is wrong. I could be a drug user for all they
know.

Baz

In article ,
says...


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe?

Yes, or a vet.

Janet

On 05/30/2012 04:15 PM, Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe?

Yes, or a vet.


I bought one from the farmers coop just this morning. To inject
insecticide into a tunnel made by a beetles pupa... hoping it is not
the dreaded Asian Longhorned, but I think the holes are too small.

Janet wrote:
Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe?
Yes, or a vet.

Arrrgh, you're making my pedantry-gland twitch!

Martin wrote:
Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe?
Yes, or a vet.
Arrrgh, you're making my pedantry-gland twitch!
ODing on Round Up symptoms?

Not unless that causes ambiguous grammar.
Janet was making me want to ask why vets weren't considered people,
or why I would be buying a vet from a chemist. :-/

Janet wrote:
In article ,
says...


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe?

Yes, or a vet.

They have *loads* of uses other than injecting drugs (or other stuff)
into people.

I had some batteries that needed a syringe to inject electrolyte once.
They're also very useful for lubrication in difficult to get at
places. Big ones can be useful for sucking fluid *out* of things.

--
Chris Green

On Wed, 30 May 2012 13:46:49 GMT, Baz wrote:

Jake wrote in
:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, Baz wrote:

Now the garden has dried out, and I mean dried(huge cracks on top) I
have had a lawn maintenence firm in to feed and weed the 2 lawns.

He pointed out that in my veg patch there is one area with Mares Tail
and I have not seen that before in my garden. It is right in the
middle of my newly planted runner beans. What to do? Dig them out and
resow the beans?

On the lawns there is Speedwell, again have never seen before but the
lawn weedkiller should eliminate it? I am told it is very difficult to
get shut of.

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

Thanks.
Baz

Mares tail roots go deep and you're unlikely to get the whole plant
out by digging. The slightest bit of plant will regrow. My "trick" has
been to buy a syringe or two from the local chemist and fill with
glyphosate solution. Simply cut off the mares tail shoot a couple of
inches above ground and inject the solution into the cut end. Repeat
every 4-5 days for 2-3 weeks or until the shoot browns and dies. It
helps to stick a plant label in the ground next to the shoot so you
can find it.

Whilst I still have the stuff appearing here and there (in a new-build
property it usually starts to appear after about 10 years), it has
never yet returned in an area I've treated in this way. Neighbours
who've tried the same approach also report success.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the asylum formerly known as the
dry end of Swansea Bay.


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe? I will do it but
it seems to me that it is wrong. I could be a drug user for all they
know.

Baz

Maybe that's a benefit of living in a small place - everyone knows
everyone. The two local pharmacies know I'm not a drug user. Isn't
there a chemist that you use regularly and who knows you?

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the asylum formerly known as the
dry end of Swansea Bay.

In article ,
lid says...

On Wed, 30 May 2012 13:46:49 GMT, Baz wrote:


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe? I will do it but
it seems to me that it is wrong. I could be a drug user for all they
know.

Baz

Maybe that's a benefit of living in a small place - everyone knows
everyone. The two local pharmacies know I'm not a drug user.

Many urglers are regular drug users. No big deal, man,those pharmacists
deal drugs all the time, they won't say no to selling a syringe.

Mr Big.

In message
Baz wrote:

Jake wrote in
:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, Baz wrote:

Now the garden has dried out, and I mean dried(huge cracks on top) I
have had a lawn maintenence firm in to feed and weed the 2 lawns.

He pointed out that in my veg patch there is one area with Mares Tail
and I have not seen that before in my garden. It is right in the
middle of my newly planted runner beans. What to do? Dig them out and
resow the beans?

On the lawns there is Speedwell, again have never seen before but the
lawn weedkiller should eliminate it? I am told it is very difficult to
get shut of.

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

Thanks.
Baz

Mares tail roots go deep and you're unlikely to get the whole plant
out by digging. The slightest bit of plant will regrow. My "trick" has
been to buy a syringe or two from the local chemist and fill with
glyphosate solution. Simply cut off the mares tail shoot a couple of
inches above ground and inject the solution into the cut end. Repeat
every 4-5 days for 2-3 weeks or until the shoot browns and dies. It
helps to stick a plant label in the ground next to the shoot so you
can find it.

Whilst I still have the stuff appearing here and there (in a new-build
property it usually starts to appear after about 10 years), it has
never yet returned in an area I've treated in this way. Neighbours
who've tried the same approach also report success.

Cheers, Jake
=======================================
Urgling from the asylum formerly known as the
dry end of Swansea Bay.


Can a person just go into a chemist and buy a syringe? I will do it but
it seems to me that it is wrong. I could be a drug user for all they
know.

Baz

I doubt if you'd get a syringe in a chemist's shop. But syringes are
widely used in engineering for oiling.

Michael Bell


--

"Jake" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, Baz wrote:

Mares tail roots go deep and you're unlikely to get the whole plant
out by digging. The slightest bit of plant will regrow. My "trick" has
been to buy a syringe or two from the local chemist and fill with
glyphosate solution. Simply cut off the mares tail shoot a couple of
inches above ground and inject the solution into the cut end. Repeat
every 4-5 days for 2-3 weeks or until the shoot browns and dies. It
helps to stick a plant label in the ground next to the shoot so you
can find it.

Whilst I still have the stuff appearing here and there (in a new-build
property it usually starts to appear after about 10 years), it has
never yet returned in an area I've treated in this way. Neighbours
who've tried the same approach also report success.

I battled with this stuff for 2 years before moving plots. Jakes suggestion
should work. However, I found a gas weed torch very effective if repeated
regularly. The 'Tail' won't affect your beans at all.
Pete C

On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, Baz wrote:

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

I just pull it up. If it grows again I pull it up again. It gives up
before me!

Steve

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On 30/05/2012 15:00, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:24:48 GMT, wrote:

Anyway, I thought that I would ask here before taking drastic action
regarding Mares Tail.

I just pull it up. If it grows again I pull it up again. It gives up
before me!

Steve



If you pull it then hang a bunch under the hot tap as you run a bath,
it's supposed to good for aches and pains.