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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.



Only kills plants (and animals by accident now and then).


In other words - no.
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.



Only kills plants (and animals by accident now and then).


In other words - no.
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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I have used glyphosate next to woody stems without problems. BUT if
there's a leaf and glyphosate hits it, it's on its way into the plant.

If you need to use it close to other plants then there are techniques
to try carefully. For example, if you have the glyphosate in a small
hand sprayer, you could cut the bottom off a large pop bottle and
encase the plant you want to kill in that then spray through the cap -
leave the bottle in place until the spray dries, though. Or you can
wrap the plants you want to keep in polythene, again leaving it in
place until the spray has dried on the plants you hit with the
glyphosate.

Some people paint glyphosate onto something with a paintbrush but you
need to be careful that whatever is painted doesn't blow against
something else while still wet.

There is a "new" product from Roundup that seems to work on the basis
of rubbing some sort of pad against the foliage of whatever it is you
want to kill but I haven't tried that (and as it has the "Roundup"
name on it, probably won't).

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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I have used glyphosate next to woody stems without problems. BUT if
there's a leaf and glyphosate hits it, it's on its way into the plant.

If you need to use it close to other plants then there are techniques
to try carefully. For example, if you have the glyphosate in a small
hand sprayer, you could cut the bottom off a large pop bottle and
encase the plant you want to kill in that then spray through the cap -
leave the bottle in place until the spray dries, though. Or you can
wrap the plants you want to keep in polythene, again leaving it in
place until the spray has dried on the plants you hit with the
glyphosate.

Some people paint glyphosate onto something with a paintbrush but you
need to be careful that whatever is painted doesn't blow against
something else while still wet.

There is a "new" product from Roundup that seems to work on the basis
of rubbing some sort of pad against the foliage of whatever it is you
want to kill but I haven't tried that (and as it has the "Roundup"
name on it, probably won't).


Thanks, Jake. That is very good info.

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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have
an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with
water.


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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench
with water.


Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use
it!

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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench
with water.


Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I
use
it!

Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush.
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"Pete C" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a
plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray
and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench
with water.


Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I
use
it!

Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush.


What a good idea!! Thanks
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On 19/06/2012 10:23, Ophelia wrote:


"Pete C" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a
plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of
spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench
with water.

Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully
how/if I use
it!

Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush.


What a good idea!! Thanks



Great idea then the kids can take the blame if anything else dies



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On 2012-06-18 19:17:22 +0100, "Ophelia" said:



"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a
plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray
and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench
with water.


Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I
use
it!

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Ophelia, Ray has a long transparent tube with a cross piece at the bottom
with a sort of horizontal wick on it that goes just a little up into the
tube. The tube is then filled with the weed killer, which soaks into the
wick and he dabs at offending weeds with it, so there is no spray. I
really must take a photo of it but I feel sure that your personal handyman
could make one for you! It's much the safest way to attack individual
weeds in a border, for example.


Yes I am sure he could Thanks
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench
with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty
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"Pete C" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant
which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and
protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you
have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or
drench with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty


Oh I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable but
it seems not

Not summat to be messed with eh?
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On 06/18/2012 11:00 PM, Ophelia wrote:


"Pete C" wrote in message
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Ophelia" wrote in message
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Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other
bushes.

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http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a
plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of
spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still
use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you
got it on or drench with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty


Oh I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable
but it seems not

Not summat to be messed with eh?


Definitely not. But it can be used with proper precautions, and is a
valuable tool in a large garden or park. As well as to kill stuff like
bindweed that is difficult to dig or pull completely.

Woody stems don't absorb glyphosate, so it can be used with reasonable
safely around established trees or shrubs. If you get any on the trunk,
it is not absorbed easily. My neighbor sprays it right on the trunks of
his cherries to clear the area around, with no problem.

Martin's advice about not using to fine a spray is very important,
because any drift will be deadly.

Another thing I do is to mix in a blue biological marker, so that I can
see very easily where I've sprayed. That way 1) I don't waste the
product when doing the drive, and 2) if I make a mistake, I can quickly
see and snip off the leaves that have gotten the stuff on them. The
marker disappears after a few days.

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On 19/06/2012 09:33, Emery Davis wrote:

You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a
plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of
spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still
use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you
got it on or drench with water.

I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30
seconds....no good, dead tatty


Oh I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable
but it seems not

Not summat to be messed with eh?


Definitely not. But it can be used with proper precautions, and is a
valuable tool in a large garden or park. As well as to kill stuff like
bindweed that is difficult to dig or pull completely.

Woody stems don't absorb glyphosate, so it can be used with reasonable
safely around established trees or shrubs. If you get any on the trunk,
it is not absorbed easily. My neighbor sprays it right on the trunks of
his cherries to clear the area around, with no problem.

Martin's advice about not using to fine a spray is very important,
because any drift will be deadly.

Another thing I do is to mix in a blue biological marker, so that I can
see very easily where I've sprayed. That way 1) I don't waste the
product when doing the drive, and 2) if I make a mistake, I can quickly
see and snip off the leaves that have gotten the stuff on them. The
marker disappears after a few days.

-E



I always wonder about the trunks on young trees that can still be green
like young fruit trees and young Holly trees.
David




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