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Glyphosate
Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes.
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. Only kills plants (and animals by accident now and then). In other words - no. -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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"David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. Only kills plants (and animals by accident now and then). In other words - no. -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder Vielen Dank, Helmuth! -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Glyphosate
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia"
wrote: Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- I have used glyphosate next to woody stems without problems. BUT if there's a leaf and glyphosate hits it, it's on its way into the plant. If you need to use it close to other plants then there are techniques to try carefully. For example, if you have the glyphosate in a small hand sprayer, you could cut the bottom off a large pop bottle and encase the plant you want to kill in that then spray through the cap - leave the bottle in place until the spray dries, though. Or you can wrap the plants you want to keep in polythene, again leaving it in place until the spray has dried on the plants you hit with the glyphosate. Some people paint glyphosate onto something with a paintbrush but you need to be careful that whatever is painted doesn't blow against something else while still wet. There is a "new" product from Roundup that seems to work on the basis of rubbing some sort of pad against the foliage of whatever it is you want to kill but I haven't tried that (and as it has the "Roundup" name on it, probably won't). Cheers, Jake ======================================= Urgling from Swansea Bay. Dave's at that end; I'm at this end. Bill G's in the middle. Come to think of it, where is Bill G these days? |
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"Jake" wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:44:38 +0100, "Ophelia" wrote: Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- I have used glyphosate next to woody stems without problems. BUT if there's a leaf and glyphosate hits it, it's on its way into the plant. If you need to use it close to other plants then there are techniques to try carefully. For example, if you have the glyphosate in a small hand sprayer, you could cut the bottom off a large pop bottle and encase the plant you want to kill in that then spray through the cap - leave the bottle in place until the spray dries, though. Or you can wrap the plants you want to keep in polythene, again leaving it in place until the spray has dried on the plants you hit with the glyphosate. Some people paint glyphosate onto something with a paintbrush but you need to be careful that whatever is painted doesn't blow against something else while still wet. There is a "new" product from Roundup that seems to work on the basis of rubbing some sort of pad against the foliage of whatever it is you want to kill but I haven't tried that (and as it has the "Roundup" name on it, probably won't). Thanks, Jake. That is very good info. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. -- Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella and Lapageria rosea cvs http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk |
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use it! -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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"Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use it! Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush. -- Pete C |
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"Pete C" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use it! Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush. What a good idea!! Thanks -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On 19/06/2012 10:23, Ophelia wrote:
"Pete C" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use it! Spray into a contaner and paint on with kiddies paint brush. What a good idea!! Thanks Great idea then the kids can take the blame if anything else dies |
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"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2012-06-18 19:17:22 +0100, "Ophelia" said: "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. Thanks for that. I can see I will need to think very carefully how/if I use it! -- Ophelia, Ray has a long transparent tube with a cross piece at the bottom with a sort of horizontal wick on it that goes just a little up into the tube. The tube is then filled with the weed killer, which soaks into the wick and he dabs at offending weeds with it, so there is no spray. I really must take a photo of it but I feel sure that your personal handyman could make one for you! It's much the safest way to attack individual weeds in a border, for example. Yes I am sure he could Thanks -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30 seconds....no good, dead tatty -- Pete C |
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"Pete C" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30 seconds....no good, dead tatty Oh I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable but it seems not Not summat to be messed with eh? -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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On 06/18/2012 11:00 PM, Ophelia wrote:
"Pete C" wrote in message ... "Charlie Pridham" wrote in message ... "Ophelia" wrote in message ... Is it selective? I want to use it next to a holly and some other bushes. -- -- http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/ You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30 seconds....no good, dead tatty Oh I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable but it seems not Not summat to be messed with eh? Definitely not. But it can be used with proper precautions, and is a valuable tool in a large garden or park. As well as to kill stuff like bindweed that is difficult to dig or pull completely. Woody stems don't absorb glyphosate, so it can be used with reasonable safely around established trees or shrubs. If you get any on the trunk, it is not absorbed easily. My neighbor sprays it right on the trunks of his cherries to clear the area around, with no problem. Martin's advice about not using to fine a spray is very important, because any drift will be deadly. Another thing I do is to mix in a blue biological marker, so that I can see very easily where I've sprayed. That way 1) I don't waste the product when doing the drive, and 2) if I make a mistake, I can quickly see and snip off the leaves that have gotten the stuff on them. The marker disappears after a few days. -E |
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On 19/06/2012 09:33, Emery Davis wrote:
You have to be very careful, it is absorbed by any green parts of a plant which is in active growth, if you use a sprinkle bar instead of spray and protect the things you want to keep first, you can still use it. If you have an accident, you need to cut off the bit that you got it on or drench with water. I accidently sprayed a young potato, drenched with water within 30 seconds....no good, dead tatty Oh I was rather hoping strong woody bushes might not be so vulnerable but it seems not Not summat to be messed with eh? Definitely not. But it can be used with proper precautions, and is a valuable tool in a large garden or park. As well as to kill stuff like bindweed that is difficult to dig or pull completely. Woody stems don't absorb glyphosate, so it can be used with reasonable safely around established trees or shrubs. If you get any on the trunk, it is not absorbed easily. My neighbor sprays it right on the trunks of his cherries to clear the area around, with no problem. Martin's advice about not using to fine a spray is very important, because any drift will be deadly. Another thing I do is to mix in a blue biological marker, so that I can see very easily where I've sprayed. That way 1) I don't waste the product when doing the drive, and 2) if I make a mistake, I can quickly see and snip off the leaves that have gotten the stuff on them. The marker disappears after a few days. -E I always wonder about the trunks on young trees that can still be green like young fruit trees and young Holly trees. David |
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