After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

"Baz" wrote ...

After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.


Sorry to hear that Baz, had a friend that lived in a basement flat that was
flooded a few times, tore her apart.
Rain here has been steady but light all morning although the forecast seemed
to say it would miss us. Hope they are wrong about the midlands too.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

I cannot think of anything worth saying other than I'm really sorry
that you're going through it again. My problems with the wet here are
miniscule compared to yours. I hope your insurers will cough up again.

Jake

In article , Bob Hobden
writes
Sorry to hear that Baz, had a friend that lived in a basement flat that
was flooded a few times, tore her apart.
Rain here has been steady but light all morning although the forecast
seemed to say it would miss us. Hope they are wrong about the midlands
too.


Good grief Bob, in Amersham it's been chucking it down non stop all
morning. Did manage to get over to Davies brothers near Taplow as it's
their half price sale of everything today before they close until
winter.
In spite of the thundering rain it was packed with people buying up
everything in sight!!
Still raining when we left and poured all the way home.
Looks like it'll be the same this afternoon
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 06/07/2012 13:43, Jake wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

I cannot think of anything worth saying other than I'm really sorry
that you're going through it again. My problems with the wet here are
miniscule compared to yours. I hope your insurers will cough up again.

Jake

It rained exceptionally heavy here last night. Eased of for a while but
very heavy again this morning, now it is back to fairly light rain.
Crossing the river Trent I see it has burst it's banks, so some people
downstream are bound to be flooded. I accept that the rain has been
exceptional but the bl**dy authorities allowing build on the flood
plains guarantee flooding. Where we live the water has been running off
the paviour drive in sheets, but fortunately we are on the side of a
small valley, so no chance of flooding. I guess the plants must be near
drowning though!

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

"Janet Tweedy" wrote

Bob Hobden writes
Sorry to hear that Baz, had a friend that lived in a basement flat that
was flooded a few times, tore her apart.
Rain here has been steady but light all morning although the forecast
seemed to say it would miss us. Hope they are wrong about the midlands
too.


Good grief Bob, in Amersham it's been chucking it down non stop all
morning. Did manage to get over to Davies brothers near Taplow as it's
their half price sale of everything today before they close until winter.
In spite of the thundering rain it was packed with people buying up
everything in sight!!
Still raining when we left and poured all the way home.
Looks like it'll be the same this afternoon


Well put it like this, I've just gone outside now it's stopped raining to
empty the water trays under my Cymbidiums and they were no-where near full.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked
now.

That wasn't that long ago was it, month or two? Doesn't sound like you
were "properly flooded"(*), you're back in too quick. Properly flooed
would mean all timber floors out, plaster off the walls a couple of feet
above the water line, all wiring and plumbing strippped, then a couple of
weeks with dehumidifiers runing 24/7 to dry the place out before putting
the floor back, first fix, replastering, decorating etc. 6 months plus...
B-(

Don't get me wrong even a 1/4" of water through the ground floor is 1/4"
too much requiring new carpets at the minimum. Surprised insurers haven't
insisted on flood barriers at doors and air bricks, anti back flow valves
in drains etc.

I'd *never* buy a place that was less than 15' above the normal water
level of a beck. 30' for a large river, even if said river was miles
away. Of course these days it's easy to look on the EA's web site and see
the flood zones and even monitor river levels in almost real time.

So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

At least you have Hotel in Law and the Son Inn.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 06/07/2012 14:54, Moonraker wrote:
On 06/07/2012 13:43, Jake wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent,
we have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads
causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode.
Knacked now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

We can only commiserate. If the rain comes down fast enough onto already
saturated ground it has nowhere to go except downhill.

Thing to remember is that missing manhole covers and trip hazards you
can't see can be lethal in fast flowing flood water. I know people who
have only just finished cleaning up from the big hit on Newcastle &
Gateshead over a week ago. Their reaction was also "oh no, not again!".

I cannot think of anything worth saying other than I'm really sorry
that you're going through it again. My problems with the wet here are
miniscule compared to yours. I hope your insurers will cough up again.

Jake

It rained exceptionally heavy here last night. Eased of for a while but
very heavy again this morning, now it is back to fairly light rain.
Crossing the river Trent I see it has burst it's banks, so some people
downstream are bound to be flooded. I accept that the rain has been
exceptional but the bl**dy authorities allowing build on the flood
plains guarantee flooding. Where we live the water has been running off
the paviour drive in sheets, but fortunately we are on the side of a
small valley, so no chance of flooding. I guess the plants must be near
drowning though!

Don't assume that to be true either. I live on the same hill as my
neighbour and I was very surprised that they did have a build-up of
water coming off the field behind their house that was fast enough and
lined up with the back door in such a way as to take the shortest route
through their house. Most went around the outside but not all of it.

I can think of several places locally where planning permission has been
sought and given on land that anyone with local knowledge would never
buy a house on. And not necessarily just near rivers some areas form
natural ponds due to a dish shaped configuration of the land.

All it takes is heavy rain onto already saturated land and you get
almost immediate flooding on our heavy clay. Witnessed the same
happening yesterday after an admittedly very sharp shower that put
something over an inch down in less than an hour. Despite the amber
warnings today I'd say we had rougher weather yesterday up here.
(but then I was driving around in it so I may be biassed)

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 07/06/2012 02:43 PM, Jake wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

I cannot think of anything worth saying other than I'm really sorry
that you're going through it again. My problems with the wet here are
miniscule compared to yours. I hope your insurers will cough up again.

Yeah Baz, I'll just echo that. If they paid once, they should twice.

The insurers ought to have the right to refuse to insure new properties in such locations. Then the houses would be unsaleable, and hence unbuildable. It's the only way to stop it. (And keep down the insurance premiums for the rest of us.)

"Baz" wrote in message
...
After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we
have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked
now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

What to say? Nothing is sufficient. It's flooding quite badly here, but
whoever built my house in the 30's put it up from danger of it.

"Baz" wrote in message
...
After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we
have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked
now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Oh Baz! I am so sorry

--
--

http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked
now.

That wasn't that long ago was it, month or two? Doesn't sound like you
were "properly flooded"(*), you're back in too quick. Properly flooed
would mean all timber floors out, plaster off the walls a couple of feet
above the water line, all wiring and plumbing strippped, then a couple of
weeks with dehumidifiers runing 24/7 to dry the place out before putting
the floor back, first fix, replastering, decorating etc. 6 months plus...
B-(

Don't get me wrong even a 1/4" of water through the ground floor is 1/4"
too much requiring new carpets at the minimum. Surprised insurers haven't
insisted on flood barriers at doors and air bricks, anti back flow valves
in drains etc.

I'd *never* buy a place that was less than 15' above the normal water
level of a beck. 30' for a large river, even if said river was miles
away. Of course these days it's easy to look on the EA's web site and see
the flood zones and even monitor river levels in almost real time.

So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

At least you have Hotel in Law and the Son Inn.

But he wasn't talking about rivers. He mentioned "Drain covers bursting up
and out and flooding the roads"


--
--

http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

"Emery Davis" wrote in message
...
On 07/06/2012 02:43 PM, Jake wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

After all the money Anglian and Severn Trent Water Authority spent, we
have
it again. Drain covers bursting up and out and flooding the roads
causing
real danger to anybody either driving, cycling or walking,
The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked
now.
Looks like we will be at hotel in law again. The Son Inn.
So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

Baz

I cannot think of anything worth saying other than I'm really sorry
that you're going through it again. My problems with the wet here are
miniscule compared to yours. I hope your insurers will cough up again.

Yeah Baz, I'll just echo that. If they paid once, they should twice.

We just did that with my hailstorm. My neighbours car has been written off
and I will not claim for mine. I hope his insurance company will continue
to cover him. If they don't I doubt any insurance company will take him on.
No chance of selling the house either as you have to declare flooding.

"Ophelia" wrote in message
...


"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:04:40 GMT, Baz wrote:

The house is sodden. Everything was new from the last episode. Knacked
now.

That wasn't that long ago was it, month or two? Doesn't sound like you
were "properly flooded"(*), you're back in too quick. Properly flooed
would mean all timber floors out, plaster off the walls a couple of feet
above the water line, all wiring and plumbing strippped, then a couple of
weeks with dehumidifiers runing 24/7 to dry the place out before putting
the floor back, first fix, replastering, decorating etc. 6 months plus...
B-(

Don't get me wrong even a 1/4" of water through the ground floor is 1/4"
too much requiring new carpets at the minimum. Surprised insurers haven't
insisted on flood barriers at doors and air bricks, anti back flow valves
in drains etc.

I'd *never* buy a place that was less than 15' above the normal water
level of a beck. 30' for a large river, even if said river was miles
away. Of course these days it's easy to look on the EA's web site and see
the flood zones and even monitor river levels in almost real time.

So damn depressing to be dependent on others.

At least you have Hotel in Law and the Son Inn.

But he wasn't talking about rivers. He mentioned "Drain covers bursting
up and out and flooding the roads"

Which I experienced last week.