On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4


Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste. Our
council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in the
summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by collection day.

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Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

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On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4


Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste. Our
council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in the
summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by collection
day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike


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On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4


Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste. Our
council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in the
summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by collection
day.

Never tried to do that with ours but we don't seem to have the
problems I read about with other councils.
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On 02/12/2012 14:07, 'Mike' wrote:


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On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried
Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4



Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste.
Our council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in
the summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by
collection day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike




I can't. No where to keep a shredder. I do compost an awful lot of
garden waste, plus cardboard and some shredded paper. I have five
useable compost bins plus one that needs rebuilding. They make very
good crumbly compost. Also, if I have lots of cardboard, I lay it in
the garden to suppress weeds.

This year, however, I'm not composting the millions of Sycamore leaves
which fall in the garden. Most of them have Acer Tar Spot fungus, and I
don't want to store up trouble for my few decorative Acers.

Believe me, if I had a brick-built shed (nothinhg less would deter the
two-legged rats), then I would most certainly invest in a shredder.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

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On 02/12/2012 14:07, 'Mike' wrote:


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On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish
bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried
Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right
one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage
holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4



Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste.
Our council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in
the summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by
collection day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike




I can't. No where to keep a shredder. I do compost an awful lot of
garden waste, plus cardboard and some shredded paper. I have five useable
compost bins plus one that needs rebuilding. They make very good crumbly
compost. Also, if I have lots of cardboard, I lay it in the garden to
suppress weeds.

This year, however, I'm not composting the millions of Sycamore leaves
which fall in the garden. Most of them have Acer Tar Spot fungus, and I
don't want to store up trouble for my few decorative Acers.

Believe me, if I had a brick-built shed (nothinhg less would deter the
two-legged rats), then I would most certainly invest in a shredder.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

It has surprised us just how fast the compost goes down when the stuff is
shredded first, but if you can't have a home for one, you just have to do
what you can. Quite amazing the number of worms that get in there working at
it :-)

Mike

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I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................

On 02/12/2012 14:41, 'Mike' wrote:



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On 02/12/2012 14:07, 'Mike' wrote:


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On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish
bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried
Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right
one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than
shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage
holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4




Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste.
Our council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in
the summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by
collection day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike




I can't. No where to keep a shredder. I do compost an awful lot of
garden waste, plus cardboard and some shredded paper. I have five
useable compost bins plus one that needs rebuilding. They make very
good crumbly compost. Also, if I have lots of cardboard, I lay it in
the garden to suppress weeds.

This year, however, I'm not composting the millions of Sycamore leaves
which fall in the garden. Most of them have Acer Tar Spot fungus, and
I don't want to store up trouble for my few decorative Acers.

Believe me, if I had a brick-built shed (nothinhg less would deter the
two-legged rats), then I would most certainly invest in a shredder.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

It has surprised us just how fast the compost goes down when the stuff
is shredded first, but if you can't have a home for one, you just have
to do what you can. Quite amazing the number of worms that get in there
working at it :-)

Mike



Oh yes, mine goes down quite rapidly, even though it's not shredded. I
also encourage woodlice and even ants in my bins. Oodles and oodles of
worms :~)!

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

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On 01/12/2012 22:03, Ophelia wrote:


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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish
bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried
Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right
one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least 6
of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than
shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage
holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4




Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste.
Our council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in
the summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by
collection day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge
trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike




I can't. No where to keep a shredder. I do compost an awful lot of
garden waste, plus cardboard and some shredded paper. I have five
useable compost bins plus one that needs rebuilding. They make very
good crumbly compost. Also, if I have lots of cardboard, I lay it in
the garden to suppress weeds.

This year, however, I'm not composting the millions of Sycamore leaves
which fall in the garden. Most of them have Acer Tar Spot fungus, and
I don't want to store up trouble for my few decorative Acers.

Believe me, if I had a brick-built shed (nothinhg less would deter the
two-legged rats), then I would most certainly invest in a shredder.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

It has surprised us just how fast the compost goes down when the stuff
is shredded first, but if you can't have a home for one, you just have
to do what you can. Quite amazing the number of worms that get in there
working at it :-)

Mike



Oh yes, mine goes down quite rapidly, even though it's not shredded. I
also encourage woodlice and even ants in my bins. Oodles and oodles of
worms :~)!

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

:-(

Can't have both Ants and Woodlice!

Ants means it is too dry, Woodlice and Worms it is wet :-)
(Which is what I like 'cos I feel it works faster)

Mike


all the thread left in because that is what the regulars of urg like

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In article ,
'Mike' wrote:

Can't have both Ants and Woodlice!

Ants means it is too dry, Woodlice and Worms it is wet :-)
(Which is what I like 'cos I feel it works faster)

Er, no. Woodlice also like it dry, though not as dry as ants do,
and are often found together with ants.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish
bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried
Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right
one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least
6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than
shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage
holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4





Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste.
Our council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them in
the summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by
collection day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge
trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike




I can't. No where to keep a shredder. I do compost an awful lot of
garden waste, plus cardboard and some shredded paper. I have five
useable compost bins plus one that needs rebuilding. They make very
good crumbly compost. Also, if I have lots of cardboard, I lay it in
the garden to suppress weeds.

This year, however, I'm not composting the millions of Sycamore leaves
which fall in the garden. Most of them have Acer Tar Spot fungus, and
I don't want to store up trouble for my few decorative Acers.

Believe me, if I had a brick-built shed (nothinhg less would deter the
two-legged rats), then I would most certainly invest in a shredder.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

It has surprised us just how fast the compost goes down when the stuff
is shredded first, but if you can't have a home for one, you just have
to do what you can. Quite amazing the number of worms that get in there
working at it :-)

Mike



Oh yes, mine goes down quite rapidly, even though it's not shredded. I
also encourage woodlice and even ants in my bins. Oodles and oodles of
worms :~)!

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

:-(

Can't have both Ants and Woodlice!




Yes, I can, Mike! I have ants in the summer, but they go when it gets
colder and wetter. Most people wouldn't want ants all year round
(neither do I), so it's fine that they disappear about the time I want
to riddle the compost. The woodlice seem to be able to find enough damp,
since they're in most of the bins most of the time.

Yes, the compost does break down more quickly when it's damp, but I let
my heaps dry out somewhat prior to riddling.


Ants means it is too dry, Woodlice and Worms it is wet :-)
(Which is what I like 'cos I feel it works faster)

Mike


all the thread left in because that is what the regulars of urg like





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Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

On 02/12/2012 17:33, wrote:
In ,
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Can't have both Ants and Woodlice!

Ants means it is too dry, Woodlice and Worms it is wet :-)
(Which is what I like 'cos I feel it works faster)

Er, no. Woodlice also like it dry, though not as dry as ants do,
and are often found together with ants.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



Thanks, Nick. That's just what I'm finding. The combination of worms,
woodlice and ants is most effective.

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Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

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On 30/11/2012 11:52, Broadback wrote:
I am sure I have seen simple light items designed to hold rubbish
bags
upright and open, what the dickens are they called? I have tried
Google
searches with all the names I can think of, but not got the right
one.




I appreciate this is not what you asked for, but I have at least
6 of
these and find them very useful. I buy them more cheaply than
shown in
the link (watch out for Lidl garden sales) and they last
reasonably
well. They are light but tough, stand open while you fill them and
collapse for storage. I wouldn't be without them. I have even
grown
potatoes in the older ones as, by then, they have a few drainage
holes.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Litre-Spring...4398632&sr=1-4





Oh! We have two of those!!!! We use them for all kinds of things)



Yes, they're very good in the garden. I even use spare ones for
plant
protection at this time of year when I need fewer for garden waste.
Our council, to my relief, seems happy to empty any number of them
in
the summer. I have been known to have all six full of waste by
collection day.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

Don't you shred and compost? I even take my neighbour's hedge
trimmings,
shred them and compost them

Mike




I can't. No where to keep a shredder. I do compost an awful lot of
garden waste, plus cardboard and some shredded paper. I have five
useable compost bins plus one that needs rebuilding. They make very
good crumbly compost. Also, if I have lots of cardboard, I lay it in
the garden to suppress weeds.

This year, however, I'm not composting the millions of Sycamore leaves
which fall in the garden. Most of them have Acer Tar Spot fungus, and
I don't want to store up trouble for my few decorative Acers.

Believe me, if I had a brick-built shed (nothinhg less would deter the
two-legged rats), then I would most certainly invest in a shredder.

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

It has surprised us just how fast the compost goes down when the stuff
is shredded first, but if you can't have a home for one, you just have
to do what you can. Quite amazing the number of worms that get in there
working at it :-)

Mike



Oh yes, mine goes down quite rapidly, even though it's not shredded. I
also encourage woodlice and even ants in my bins. Oodles and oodles of
worms :~)!

--
Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

:-(

Can't have both Ants and Woodlice!




Yes, I can, Mike! I have ants in the summer, but they go when it gets
colder and wetter. Most people wouldn't want ants all year round (neither
do I), so it's fine that they disappear about the time I want to riddle
the compost. The woodlice seem to be able to find enough damp, since
they're in most of the bins most of the time.

Yes, the compost does break down more quickly when it's damp, but I let my
heaps dry out somewhat prior to riddling.


Ants means it is too dry, Woodlice and Worms it is wet :-)
(Which is what I like 'cos I feel it works faster)

Mike


all the thread left in because that is what the regulars of urg like





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Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay

I let mine dry our before riddling/sifting too and if it is dry enough, I
pass the stuff which won't go through the sieve, through the shredder again
:-)

Mike

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all the thread left in because that is what the regulars of urg like

No it's not

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all the thread left in because that is what the regulars of urg like

No it's not


Only going by what those who should know better do ...........

Mike

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