NOT ON a gardening topic
not on the subject but as an aside I spent 3 and a half hours on a
premium helpline to demon to sort stuff out, they couldn't, not even
from their end. I even scrapped Turnpike to go with Thunderbird like a
lamb when it was suggested, (I'd gone beyond the point of reason by
then).

Spent a whole day to them well 2pm until 9.45pm gave up, I got advised
i was inputting the wrong data, even after the 14th time i had completed
all the settings as they told me to......... Went from incoming random
stuff being bounced or annihilated to outgoing stuff bouncing back, even
on their computers which was quite satisfying after their smug
suggestions..............

At 10.30pm Tom's friend solved it in 10 minutes, it's their new server.
BUT on the upside I LOVE the new Thunderbird, it's great and highly
recommend it to anyone who has to leave Turnpike.

And what's more I have moved the domain name so in the spring I can go
solely with another and cheaper server and Broadband supplier

Hurrah!!

Now all I have to do is figure out how to read this group through TBird
rather than TPike
--
Janet Tweedy

As of 3pm this afternoon demon won't connect me to my only newsgroup in the world so i am clanking through this via Google groups which is THE most tortuous procedure I have ever experienced but I WILL NOT BE BEATEN

even the dreaded gb is better than that. I speak from experience

"Janet" wrote in message
...
As of 3pm this afternoon demon won't connect me to my only newsgroup in
the world so i am clanking through this via Google groups which is THE
most tortuous procedure I have ever experienced but I WILL NOT BE BEATEN


Janet I had problems with Demon, especially when a well known troll who used
to post here accused me of posting something which was posted by someone
else and Demon took their side :-(

They only backed down and gave me an apology when it got to the threat of a
Solicitor and I proved to them that it wasn't me and explained the
situation.

Both Demon and said troll are now out of my hair. You can live without
Demon. Get shot of them once and for all and go elsewhere.

Merry Christmas and Happy and peaceful New Year

Mike

--

....................................

I'm an Angel, honest ! The horns are there just to keep the halo straight.

....................................

In message ,
Janet writes
As of 3pm this afternoon demon won't connect me to my only newsgroup in
the world so i am clanking through this via Google groups which is THE
most tortuous procedure I have ever experienced but I WILL NOT BE
BEATEN
After many man years I kicked Demon into touch earlier this year and
went with the oft maligned BT. Looking at the shambolic state of
affairs with Demons new e-mail stem and now news I think I did the right
thing.
--
bert

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:20:36 +0000, bert ] wrote:


After many man years I kicked Demon into touch earlier this year and
went with the oft maligned BT. Looking at the shambolic state of
affairs with Demons new e-mail stem and now news I think I did the right
thing.

I left Demon in 2003 having been with them for around 5 years. It was
the two successive Great News Snaffus that made me start looking for
someone more reliable.

After a couple of abortive trials with other ISPs I moved to Plusnet
who have, in the main been sound. For those that need to take
advantage of it they do have very good support.

They have just launched some interesting competitive packages - 5.99 a
month for 10GB or 9.99 per month for ~unlimited~ usage. They also do
some good phone inclusive deals, one of which i have just moved to.
--
rbel

On 21/12/2012 20:21, rbel wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:20:36 +0000, bert ] wrote:


After many man years I kicked Demon into touch earlier this year and
went with the oft maligned BT. Looking at the shambolic state of
affairs with Demons new e-mail stem and now news I think I did the right
thing.

I left Demon in 2003 having been with them for around 5 years. It was
the two successive Great News Snaffus that made me start looking for
someone more reliable.

After a couple of abortive trials with other ISPs I moved to Plusnet
who have, in the main been sound. For those that need to take
advantage of it they do have very good support.

They have just launched some interesting competitive packages - 5.99 a
month for 10GB or 9.99 per month for ~unlimited~ usage. They also do
some good phone inclusive deals, one of which i have just moved to.

I second that, they are not the cheapest but one of the best, IMHO.

--
Remember the early bird may catch the worm but the second mouse gets the
cheese.

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:41:39 +0100, Martin wrote:

Oo-er missus, things can't be that bad. Is this the beginning of the
end of the civilised world as we know it?

Hasn't happened here yet...

Use
news.eternal-september.org

or pay £10/annum and use
news.individual.net

Agreed. BTW news.individual.net is EUR10/year or about eight squid not
ten. Very effective spam filering on news.idividual.net as well, like I
only see spam when someone reposts or follows up to it.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:38:56 +0100, Dave Liquorice
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:41:39 +0100, Martin wrote:

Oo-er missus, things can't be that bad. Is this the beginning of the
end of the civilised world as we know it?

Hasn't happened here yet...


It's not raining here, I assume I've died and gone to heaven.

Use
news.eternal-september.org

or pay £10/annum and use
news.individual.net

Agreed. BTW news.individual.net is EUR10/year or about eight squid not
ten. Very effective spam filering on news.idividual.net as well, like I
only see spam when someone reposts or follows up to it.


+1, news.individual.net filters so well we forget how bad it can be
otherwise.

On 20/12/2012 13:31, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:48:46 +0000, Janet Tweedy
wrote:

NOT ON a gardening topic
not on the subject but as an aside I spent 3 and a half hours on a
premium helpline to demon to sort stuff out, they couldn't, not even
from their end. I even scrapped Turnpike to go with Thunderbird like a
lamb when it was suggested, (I'd gone beyond the point of reason by
then).

Spent a whole day to them well 2pm until 9.45pm gave up, I got advised
i was inputting the wrong data, even after the 14th time i had completed
all the settings as they told me to......... Went from incoming random
stuff being bounced or annihilated to outgoing stuff bouncing back, even
on their computers which was quite satisfying after their smug
suggestions..............

At 10.30pm Tom's friend solved it in 10 minutes, it's their new server.
BUT on the upside I LOVE the new Thunderbird, it's great and highly
recommend it to anyone who has to leave Turnpike.

And what's more I have moved the domain name so in the spring I can go
solely with another and cheaper server and Broadband supplier

Hurrah!!

Now all I have to do is figure out how to read this group through TBird
rather than TPike

You cheated. You posted using Turnpike.

As it is Christmas, all is forgiven.

Please don't keep us in suspenders, who is this cheaper server and
broadband supplier? I use a different company for Broadband, web server
and domain name host, so a cheaper solution would be welcome.

--
Remember the early bird may catch the worm but the second mouse gets the
cheese.

On 20/12/2012 13:40, Broadback wrote:
Please don't keep us in suspenders, who is this cheaper server and
broadband supplier? I use a different company for Broadband, web server
and domain name host, so a cheaper solution would be welcome.



I meant I will move to a broadband supplier, possibly nowbelieve or
breathenow or some similar sounding name (recommended by someone) and
Tom's friend runs his own server so he can carry and bounce the emails
for me to any account.
Sorry for confusion there !

On 20/12/2012 13:31, Martin wrote:
You cheated. You posted using Turnpike.
I didn't (sounds of huffing and puffing) I actually set up TB to do this
newsgroup but can't find anyhwere that you can killfile people or
deselect threads etc.

Will keep looking - got this far there#s no turning back !

janet

On 12/20/2012 9:17 AM, Janet Tweedy wrote:
On 20/12/2012 13:31, Martin wrote:
You cheated. You posted using Turnpike.
I didn't (sounds of huffing and puffing) I actually set up TB to do this
newsgroup but can't find anyhwere that you can killfile people or
deselect threads etc.

Will keep looking - got this far there#s no turning back !

To set up filters -
Click 'message'
Scroll down to 'create filter from message'

To kill (and never see again) an entire thread - press 'k'

To mark an entire thread as read (but not kill it) press 't'

On 20/12/2012 14:34, S Viemeister wrote:
To set up filters -
Click 'message'
Scroll down to 'create filter from message'

To kill (and never see again) an entire thread - press 'k'

To mark an entire thread as read (but not kill it) press 't'


oh ta, trying to go with logical sequence first I thought filter was
for stuff to stay on the list. How about author?

On 12/20/2012 12:10 PM, Janet Tweedy wrote:
On 20/12/2012 14:34, S Viemeister wrote:
To set up filters -
Click 'message'
Scroll down to 'create filter from message'

To kill (and never see again) an entire thread - press 'k'

To mark an entire thread as read (but not kill it) press 't'

oh ta, trying to go with logical sequence first I thought filter was
for stuff to stay on the list. How about author?

Yes - you can filter out by author, date, subject, etc.

You can also filter on things you _want_ to see, such as posts by
certain people, or threads in which you have participated.

Now that my niece doesn't no longer lives in Beijing, I've blocked any
posts with Chinese addresses.
Anything with the words 'cheap watches' gets binned, too.