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Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?


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Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

.................................................. ......

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great Britain to
its knees.

......................................

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On 17/04/2013 11:23, 'Mike' wrote:


"andy ston" wrote in message ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

.................................................. .....

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great
Britain to its knees.

.....................................

Stopped children' school milk.
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On 17/04/2013 11:23, 'Mike' wrote:


"andy ston" wrote in message ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of
M.Thatcher was in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning
classes.

Any others spring to mind?

.................................................. .....

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great
Britain to its knees.

.....................................

Stopped children' school milk.


Thatcher, the milk snatcher. I never would have thought that I would be
glad hearing that someone died. I am not glad, just releived of that horrid
thing.

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...


"andy ston" wrote in message ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

.................................................. .....

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great Britain
to its knees.


LOL!



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"andy ston" wrote in message ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

................................................. ......

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great Britain to
its knees.


4. Created a target for incompetent company owners to blame, when they
failed to keep their business running.
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:23:25 +0100, "'Mike'"
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"andy ston" wrote in message ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

................................................. ......

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great Britain
to
its knees.


4. Created a target for incompetent company owners to blame, when they
failed to keep their business running.

Quite right ^^^^ Majority of companies affected were 'running on empty' long
before she gave them a reality check!


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'Mike' wrote:
"andy ston" wrote in message ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of
M.Thatcher was in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

.................................................. .....

Yes. She nearly succeeded in what Hitler tried to do. Bring Great
Britain to its knees.

.....................................


Ah - you mean what NewLab has just succeeded in doing.

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"andy ston" wrote ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of M.Thatcher was
in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning classes.

Any others spring to mind?

Put the Great back in Britain.
Stopped us being called the "sick man of Europe" which we certainly were.
Got rampant inflation under control (remember 26% inflation?).
Got the countries finances under control.
Won three election the last with a bigger majority.
Bit the bullet and got rid of uneconomic industries that had only survived
with taxpayers money. (harsh but true)
Increased Industrial and coal production over her terms. (surprising to
some)

--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
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Organised the sorting of the argies - got to be one of the leading legacy
factors.

I have a reminder of this, a Vulcan bomber, featuring on my humble pc desk.

Pete



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Bob Hobden wrote:
"andy ston" wrote ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of
M.Thatcher was in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning
classes. Any others spring to mind?

Put the Great back in Britain.


Yep, a country of great greedy *******s - and sod the rest of us!

Stopped us being called the "sick man of Europe" which we certainly


And made us the 'sick man' of the rest of the world with her policies!

were. Got rampant inflation under control (remember 26% inflation?).


Yep by increasing VAT from 8% to 17.5%, (which included utilities at that
rate) slamming up my income tax and NI insurance payments, etc, etc!

Got the countries finances under control.


Yep, sold off the gas, electricity, water and railway companies to the
highest (foreign in general) bidder to do that!

Won three election the last with a bigger majority.


Sne *NEVER* won a majority of the people vote - her 'wins' IIRC were
actually won on low percentage turn-outs!

Bit the bullet and got rid of uneconomic industries that had only
survived with taxpayers money. (harsh but true)


She not only did that, but she also forced economic firms to close as
ell - and to replace them with the thieving banking system that we now have
(exacerbated by new labours policies)

Increased Industrial and coal production over her terms. (surprising
to some)


Yep she closed the countries mines and sold off the steel plants - and
increased the imports of these from China etc.

She did well didn't she, brought out a new 'class' of people called YUPPIES
and then when she closed the factories, mines and steelworks, she paid for
their dole and benefits by using the money the country made from North Sea
oil and gas - and when the dole queues became too long, she massaged the
figures by telling the medical profession to take them off the dole and sign
them onto the newly invented (just for her) invalidity benefit - thus
starting of the 'benefit culture) that the three stooges we now have in
power are rather clusmsily trying to stop.

No, Maggie wasn't great - just a bloody con artist.- and I won't go into the
other things that she tried to cover-up.



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"Let It Be" wrote in
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Bob Hobden wrote:
"andy ston" wrote ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of
M.Thatcher was in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning
classes. Any others spring to mind?

Put the Great back in Britain.


Yep, a country of great greedy *******s - and sod the rest of us!

Stopped us being called the "sick man of Europe" which we certainly


And made us the 'sick man' of the rest of the world with her policies!

were. Got rampant inflation under control (remember 26% inflation?).


Yep by increasing VAT from 8% to 17.5%, (which included utilities at
that rate) slamming up my income tax and NI insurance payments, etc,
etc!

Got the countries finances under control.


Yep, sold off the gas, electricity, water and railway companies to the
highest (foreign in general) bidder to do that!

Won three election the last with a bigger majority.


Sne *NEVER* won a majority of the people vote - her 'wins' IIRC were
actually won on low percentage turn-outs!

Bit the bullet and got rid of uneconomic industries that had only
survived with taxpayers money. (harsh but true)


She not only did that, but she also forced economic firms to close as
ell - and to replace them with the thieving banking system that we
now have (exacerbated by new labours policies)

Increased Industrial and coal production over her terms. (surprising
to some)


Yep she closed the countries mines and sold off the steel plants - and
increased the imports of these from China etc.

She did well didn't she, brought out a new 'class' of people called
YUPPIES and then when she closed the factories, mines and steelworks,
she paid for their dole and benefits by using the money the country
made from North Sea oil and gas - and when the dole queues became too
long, she massaged the figures by telling the medical profession to
take them off the dole and sign them onto the newly invented (just for
her) invalidity benefit - thus starting of the 'benefit culture) that
the three stooges we now have in power are rather clusmsily trying to
stop.

No, Maggie wasn't great - just a bloody con artist.- and I won't go
into the other things that she tried to cover-up.





Well said. All of it.
I live in an ex steel town, also close to a ex coal mining town.
We don't mine iron ore any more, we don't use coal for the blast furnaces
anymore. We are a manufacturing community who have been tought how to
fill in or out a form at the unemployment office.
Thank god I was young enough to leave school and actually get a job.

Baz
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:35:29 GMT, Baz wrote:

"Let It Be" wrote in
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Bob Hobden wrote:
"andy ston" wrote ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of
M.Thatcher was in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning
classes. Any others spring to mind?
Put the Great back in Britain.


Yep, a country of great greedy *******s - and sod the rest of us!

Stopped us being called the "sick man of Europe" which we certainly


And made us the 'sick man' of the rest of the world with her policies!

were. Got rampant inflation under control (remember 26% inflation?).


Yep by increasing VAT from 8% to 17.5%, (which included utilities at
that rate) slamming up my income tax and NI insurance payments, etc,
etc!

Got the countries finances under control.


Yep, sold off the gas, electricity, water and railway companies to the
highest (foreign in general) bidder to do that!

Won three election the last with a bigger majority.


Sne *NEVER* won a majority of the people vote - her 'wins' IIRC were
actually won on low percentage turn-outs!

Bit the bullet and got rid of uneconomic industries that had only
survived with taxpayers money. (harsh but true)


She not only did that, but she also forced economic firms to close as
ell - and to replace them with the thieving banking system that we
now have (exacerbated by new labours policies)

Increased Industrial and coal production over her terms. (surprising
to some)


Yep she closed the countries mines and sold off the steel plants - and
increased the imports of these from China etc.

She did well didn't she, brought out a new 'class' of people called
YUPPIES and then when she closed the factories, mines and steelworks,
she paid for their dole and benefits by using the money the country
made from North Sea oil and gas - and when the dole queues became too
long, she massaged the figures by telling the medical profession to
take them off the dole and sign them onto the newly invented (just for
her) invalidity benefit - thus starting of the 'benefit culture) that
the three stooges we now have in power are rather clusmsily trying to
stop.

No, Maggie wasn't great - just a bloody con artist.- and I won't go
into the other things that she tried to cover-up.





Well said. All of it.
I live in an ex steel town, also close to a ex coal mining town.
We don't mine iron ore any more, we don't use coal for the blast furnaces
anymore. We are a manufacturing community who have been tought how to
fill in or out a form at the unemployment office.
Thank god I was young enough to leave school and actually get a job.


I didn't think we ever did mine iron ore. It was all imported wasn't
it?
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On 18/04/2013 15:00, Fuschia wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:35:29 GMT, Baz wrote:

"Let It Be" wrote in
:

Bob Hobden wrote:
"andy ston" wrote ...

Is it possible to explain to say a child what the legacy of
M.Thatcher was in simple terms?

1. Making trade unions more democratic
2. Not allowing one sided nuclear disarmament.
3. Clearing out some of the influence of the old land owning
classes. Any others spring to mind?
Put the Great back in Britain.

Yep, a country of great greedy *******s - and sod the rest of us!

Stopped us being called the "sick man of Europe" which we certainly

And made us the 'sick man' of the rest of the world with her policies!

were. Got rampant inflation under control (remember 26% inflation?).

Yep by increasing VAT from 8% to 17.5%, (which included utilities at
that rate) slamming up my income tax and NI insurance payments, etc,
etc!

Got the countries finances under control.

Yep, sold off the gas, electricity, water and railway companies to the
highest (foreign in general) bidder to do that!

Won three election the last with a bigger majority.

Sne *NEVER* won a majority of the people vote - her 'wins' IIRC were
actually won on low percentage turn-outs!

Bit the bullet and got rid of uneconomic industries that had only
survived with taxpayers money. (harsh but true)

She not only did that, but she also forced economic firms to close as
ell - and to replace them with the thieving banking system that we
now have (exacerbated by new labours policies)

Increased Industrial and coal production over her terms. (surprising
to some)

Yep she closed the countries mines and sold off the steel plants - and
increased the imports of these from China etc.

She did well didn't she, brought out a new 'class' of people called
YUPPIES and then when she closed the factories, mines and steelworks,
she paid for their dole and benefits by using the money the country
made from North Sea oil and gas - and when the dole queues became too
long, she massaged the figures by telling the medical profession to
take them off the dole and sign them onto the newly invented (just for
her) invalidity benefit - thus starting of the 'benefit culture) that
the three stooges we now have in power are rather clusmsily trying to
stop.

No, Maggie wasn't great - just a bloody con artist.- and I won't go
into the other things that she tried to cover-up.





Well said. All of it.
I live in an ex steel town, also close to a ex coal mining town.
We don't mine iron ore any more, we don't use coal for the blast furnaces
anymore. We are a manufacturing community who have been tought how to
fill in or out a form at the unemployment office.
Thank god I was young enough to leave school and actually get a job.


I didn't think we ever did mine iron ore. It was all imported wasn't
it?

Yes, the Romans mined a lot
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I didn't think we ever did mine iron ore.
The Hodbarrow iron ore mines near Millom in SW Cumbria, which operated from ca1850-1968, were one of the largest in Europe in the latter half of 19th century.


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