Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Sacha" wrote in message ...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.
--

Sacha


That was a good advert!!

Mike

"Sacha" wrote...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with a
fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces. Ours
are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic being more
expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're grown in (if
different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add maybe 1p to the
whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown organic veg being more
expensive as their care, treatment and harvesting take more man hours, this
is absolutely not the case with lettuce plants a couple of inches high.
This gives organic growers a bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

Our little local nursery, Dunkirk Nursery in Egham, sells all veg plants at
£1 for a strip of 12 and very good quality. It means it's actually not
worth your while growing them yourself unless you want something specific.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2013-07-06 17:37:13 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

Our little local nursery, Dunkirk Nursery in Egham, sells all veg
plants at £1 for a strip of 12 and very good quality. It means it's
actually not worth your while growing them yourself unless you want
something specific.

This year, veg sales have boomed and the six packs and the strips are
very popular, so are the herbs. Obviously, these aren't things we send
out, it's simply not worth it to us or the customers. But we have
noticed an increase in young people coming in and my guess is they're
concerned about what they put in their children's mouths! But fair's
fair re pricing! A lot of people buying baby plants don't have the
time, or don't have a greenhouse to start them off, so it's definitely
not worth their while trying to do it themselves.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Bob Hobden" wrote

"Sacha" wrote...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with a
fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces. Ours
are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic being more
expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're grown in (if
different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add maybe 1p to the
whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown organic veg being more
expensive as their care, treatment and harvesting take more man hours,
this is absolutely not the case with lettuce plants a couple of inches
high. This gives organic growers a bad name though thankfully, not all do
this.

Our little local nursery, Dunkirk Nursery in Egham, sells all veg plants at
£1 for a strip of 12 and very good quality. It means it's actually not
worth your while growing them yourself unless you want something specific.


Just found this, can't believe they have a Facebook page. Must be one of the
Grandchildren's doing.

https://www.facebook.com/DunkirkNurseryEgham

--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2013-07-07 14:17:38 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Bob Hobden" wrote

"Sacha" wrote...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

Our little local nursery, Dunkirk Nursery in Egham, sells all veg
plants at £1 for a strip of 12 and very good quality. It means it's
actually not worth your while growing them yourself unless you want
something specific.


Just found this, can't believe they have a Facebook page. Must be one
of the Grandchildren's doing.

https://www.facebook.com/DunkirkNurseryEgham

And a web site, Bob, though you probably know that!
http://dunkirkplantnursery.co.uk/
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Sacha" wrote ...

Bob Hobden said:

"Bob Hobden" wrote

"Sacha" wrote...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

Our little local nursery, Dunkirk Nursery in Egham, sells all veg plants
at £1 for a strip of 12 and very good quality. It means it's actually
not worth your while growing them yourself unless you want something
specific.


Just found this, can't believe they have a Facebook page. Must be one of
the Grandchildren's doing.

https://www.facebook.com/DunkirkNurseryEgham

And a web site, Bob, though you probably know that!
http://dunkirkplantnursery.co.uk/


No, I didn't know that. Certainly has to be one of the younger members of
the family getting them into the 21st century. It's a ramshackled old place
but they grow good plants. Very popular with the local Allotment folk.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2013-07-07 17:08:40 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote ...

Bob Hobden said:

"Bob Hobden" wrote

"Sacha" wrote...

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

Our little local nursery, Dunkirk Nursery in Egham, sells all veg
plants at £1 for a strip of 12 and very good quality. It means it's
actually not worth your while growing them yourself unless you want
something specific.


Just found this, can't believe they have a Facebook page. Must be one
of the Grandchildren's doing.

https://www.facebook.com/DunkirkNurseryEgham

And a web site, Bob, though you probably know that!
http://dunkirkplantnursery.co.uk/


No, I didn't know that. Certainly has to be one of the younger members
of the family getting them into the 21st century. It's a ramshackled
old place but they grow good plants. Very popular with the local
Allotment folk.

It's one of my young that bullied me/us onto Twitter and Facebook!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 06/07/2013 17:28, Sacha wrote:
Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with a
fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and harvesting
take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with lettuce plants
a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a bad name though
thankfully, not all do this.

Oh come on Sacha the supermarkets are full of vastly overpriced and over
packaged Organic(TM) produce to pander to the whims of the worried well
with more money than sense. They deserve to be ripped off.

Minimum inputs growing is rational but the irrational fear of all
chemicals that Organic(TM) growers and the Henry Doublespeak association
stand for it just a cynical license to print money.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 2013-07-06 17:57:03 +0100, Martin Brown said:

On 06/07/2013 17:28, Sacha wrote:
Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with a
fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and harvesting
take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with lettuce plants
a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a bad name though
thankfully, not all do this.

Oh come on Sacha the supermarkets are full of vastly overpriced and
over packaged Organic(TM) produce to pander to the whims of the worried
well with more money than sense. They deserve to be ripped off.

Minimum inputs growing is rational but the irrational fear of all
chemicals that Organic(TM) growers and the Henry Doublespeak
association stand for it just a cynical license to print money.

I don't know what it costs to raise truly organic veg to market size. I
do know that what I've cited above is - to us - a rip-off.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

I wonder how many of the worried well remain well because they have worried?

On 06/07/2013 17:28, Sacha wrote:
Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with a
fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and harvesting
take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with lettuce plants
a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a bad name though
thankfully, not all do this.

Ouch to both prices, but then when B&Q are selling packs of Radish plants,
I suppose people will buy anything

Sacha wrote in :

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

This is one of those times when some git charges £2.50 for 6 and another
git charges £3.50 for 6. For goodnes sake all are grossly overpriced.
I would pay £1 for 50. If anyone would need to. It should be classed as
illegal, extortionate, or just pure greed. Yuk.

Baz

On 2013-07-07 10:23:53 +0100, Baz said:

Sacha wrote in :

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

This is one of those times when some git charges £2.50 for 6 and another
git charges £3.50 for 6. For goodnes sake all are grossly overpriced.
I would pay £1 for 50. If anyone would need to. It should be classed as
illegal, extortionate, or just pure greed. Yuk.

Baz

We are not greedy, Baz. Please don't expect nurserymen and their staff
to work from 8 in the morning until 5 at night, or later, in all
weathers, so that you can pay too little for quite a lot. There's a
big difference between making a living and profiteering and
approximately 40p a plant for which someone else has done the basic
work and bought the seed, is hardly expensive! You appear to think we
should be a charity and give you cheap plants. Like every other
business, we have to pay wages, insurance, taxes, council tax, rates,
oil bills, maintenance and if we're lucky, eat. Just because these
are plants, there are a few people like you who appear to think a
nursery business is just an offshoot of hobby gardening and that they
should be sold for twopence. Very offensive.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:28:53 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2013-07-07 10:23:53 +0100, Baz said:

Sacha wrote in :

Ray was really incensed the other day to see that another nursery with
a fifth of our staff, is charging £3.50 for a pack of 6 baby lettuces.
Ours are £2.50 and there is absonlutely no justification in organic
being more expensive at this stage in their growth! The compost they're
grown in (if different) may be slightly more costly, but that would add
maybe 1p to the whole tray! But while I can understand fully grown
organic veg being more expensive as their care, treatment and
harvesting take more man hours, this is absolutely not the case with
lettuce plants a couple of inches high. This gives organic growers a
bad name though thankfully, not all do this.

This is one of those times when some git charges £2.50 for 6 and another
git charges £3.50 for 6. For goodnes sake all are grossly overpriced.
I would pay £1 for 50. If anyone would need to. It should be classed as
illegal, extortionate, or just pure greed. Yuk.

Baz

We are not greedy, Baz. Please don't expect nurserymen and their staff
to work from 8 in the morning until 5 at night, or later, in all
weathers, so that you can pay too little for quite a lot. There's a
big difference between making a living and profiteering and
approximately 40p a plant for which someone else has done the basic
work and bought the seed, is hardly expensive! You appear to think we
should be a charity and give you cheap plants. Like every other
business, we have to pay wages, insurance, taxes, council tax, rates,
oil bills, maintenance and if we're lucky, eat. Just because these
are plants, there are a few people like you who appear to think a
nursery business is just an offshoot of hobby gardening and that they
should be sold for twopence. Very offensive.



Ah - diddums.