"Sacha" wrote

Hope all those urglers in or near the area of the flooding are okay and NOT
flooded!


Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/


-- Regards
Bob Hobden
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from the W.of London. UK

On 2014-02-14 18:15:36 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

Hope all those urglers in or near the area of the flooding are okay and
NOT flooded!


Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this
interesting product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins
Builders Merchants but hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the
army delivery of sandbags as we were out! No I don't understand the
logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/


-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

It'san intriguing product and if it works, seems an excellent solution.
I just hope you don't need it.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Sacha" wrote

Hope all those urglers in or near the area of the flooding are okay and NOT
flooded!

Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/

The hype is, as always, hype. They will have a density of about 1,
whereas sandbags will have a density of above 1.5 (especially when
wet). So they will work only if they are piled high enough that
the weight of the ones above the water holds the ones below the
water on the ground.

A neat idea, but you clearly MUST be aware that they need to be
piled 50% higher than sandbags to work at all.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote ...

Bob Hobden wrote:
"Sacha" wrote

Hope all those urglers in or near the area of the flooding are okay and
NOT
flooded!

Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants
but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags
as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/

The hype is, as always, hype. They will have a density of about 1,
whereas sandbags will have a density of above 1.5 (especially when
wet). So they will work only if they are piled high enough that
the weight of the ones above the water holds the ones below the
water on the ground.

A neat idea, but you clearly MUST be aware that they need to be
piled 50% higher than sandbags to work at all.


Yes, that is true but it's not so serious unless you are concerned with
running water. Here it's seems like rising ground water and does not seem to
be moving much except nearer the river. We actually got 4 sand bags
delivered today after I was told by an official that they didn't expect the
Thames to rise after last nights storm above it's highest level so far which
means we will be OK.
Noticed guys from a Sikh Charity filling the sand bags at our local school,
went and thanked them, they had filled thousands looking at the piles around
them.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

"Martin" wrote
What is shown on TV can be misleading. There have been film clips on TV of
the
flooded Thames flowing very vast in some places.
Hopefully you will stay dry :-)


It is running extremely fast at the moment and the water is rolling as we
say. It looks so powerful and lethal.
Luckily it's not been so high here that the water is actually flowing fast
across the land it only moves to flood more land. It's just flooding over
and raising the water table to above soil level in places, like some
neighbours gardens and the whole housing estate at the end of our road, and
all but one road out. I suspect it will take quite a long time for the water
table to go down.
We await mid week by which time it will be reacting to last nights storm
with more than just interest.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 14/02/2014 20:53, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
"Sacha" wrote

Hope all those urglers in or near the area of the flooding are okay and NOT
flooded!

Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/

The hype is, as always, hype. They will have a density of about 1,
whereas sandbags will have a density of above 1.5 (especially when
wet). So they will work only if they are piled high enough that
the weight of the ones above the water holds the ones below the
water on the ground.

A neat idea, but you clearly MUST be aware that they need to be
piled 50% higher than sandbags to work at all.


Talking to a technical bod from a firm making water retaining polymer
last autumn, he reckoned that as a substitute for sandbags they just
weren't in the same league.
Sandbags every time.

In article ,
David Hill wrote:

Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/

The hype is, as always, hype. They will have a density of about 1,
whereas sandbags will have a density of above 1.5 (especially when
wet). So they will work only if they are piled high enough that
the weight of the ones above the water holds the ones below the
water on the ground.

A neat idea, but you clearly MUST be aware that they need to be
piled 50% higher than sandbags to work at all.

Talking to a technical bod from a firm making water retaining polymer
last autumn, he reckoned that as a substitute for sandbags they just
weren't in the same league.
Sandbags every time.

If feasible. The point where those score is that you can store
them in a small amount of space, and don't have to rely on a
delivery of sand.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"David Hill" wrote

Talking to a technical bod from a firm making water retaining polymer last
autumn, he reckoned that as a substitute for sandbags they just weren't in
the same league.
Sandbags every time.



That's if you can get hold of any, we got 4 today which won't even do one
door let alone the patio doors and the garage doors front and back where our
freezers and tools are.
Without the Sikhs providing sand and sacks and filling them by the thousand
by hand I doubt we would have got even them.
http://www.khalsaaid.org/
I cannot praise them high enough and they have been in Somerset for some
time too.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 15/02/2014 19:11, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
David Hill wrote:

Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/

The hype is, as always, hype. They will have a density of about 1,
whereas sandbags will have a density of above 1.5 (especially when
wet). So they will work only if they are piled high enough that
the weight of the ones above the water holds the ones below the
water on the ground.

A neat idea, but you clearly MUST be aware that they need to be
piled 50% higher than sandbags to work at all.

Talking to a technical bod from a firm making water retaining polymer
last autumn, he reckoned that as a substitute for sandbags they just
weren't in the same league.
Sandbags every time.

If feasible. The point where those score is that you can store
them in a small amount of space, and don't have to rely on a
delivery of sand.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I guess soil would do if sand is in short supply?

In article ,
stuart noble wrote:

Anyone who might flood or need to divert water might find this interesting
product useful. We now have some from Travis Perkins Builders Merchants but
hope we won't need to employ them. Missed the army delivery of sandbags as
we were out! No I don't understand the logic either.

http://www.floodsax.co.uk/floodsax/

The hype is, as always, hype. They will have a density of about 1,
whereas sandbags will have a density of above 1.5 (especially when
wet). So they will work only if they are piled high enough that
the weight of the ones above the water holds the ones below the
water on the ground.

A neat idea, but you clearly MUST be aware that they need to be
piled 50% higher than sandbags to work at all.

Talking to a technical bod from a firm making water retaining polymer
last autumn, he reckoned that as a substitute for sandbags they just
weren't in the same league.
Sandbags every time.

If feasible. The point where those score is that you can store
them in a small amount of space, and don't have to rely on a
delivery of sand.

I guess soil would do if sand is in short supply?

Not as well, but I assume so. Depending on the soil, it could be
a LOT more work filling the bags, and might leach and stain badly.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:26:25 Bob Hobden wrote:

"Martin" wrote
What is shown on TV can be misleading. There have been film clips on
TV of the
flooded Thames flowing very vast in some places.
Hopefully you will stay dry :-)


It is running extremely fast at the moment and the water is rolling as
we say. It looks so powerful and lethal.
Luckily it's not been so high here that the water is actually flowing
fast across the land it only moves to flood more land. It's just
flooding over and raising the water table to above soil level in
places, like some neighbours gardens and the whole housing estate at
the end of our road, and all but one road out. I suspect it will take
quite a long time for the water table to go down.
We await mid week by which time it will be reacting to last nights
storm with more than just interest.

Does anyone here remember what happened to London in 1928? ;-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26153241

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

On 16/02/2014 12:43, David Rance wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:26:25 Bob Hobden wrote:

"Martin" wrote
What is shown on TV can be misleading. There have been film clips on
TV of the
flooded Thames flowing very vast in some places.
Hopefully you will stay dry :-)


It is running extremely fast at the moment and the water is rolling as
we say. It looks so powerful and lethal.
Luckily it's not been so high here that the water is actually flowing
fast across the land it only moves to flood more land. It's just
flooding over and raising the water table to above soil level in
places, like some neighbours gardens and the whole housing estate at
the end of our road, and all but one road out. I suspect it will take
quite a long time for the water table to go down.
We await mid week by which time it will be reacting to last nights
storm with more than just interest.

Does anyone here remember what happened to London in 1928? ;-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26153241

David

Very interesting, thanks

--
Pete C
adventure before dementure
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Secon...57749060989952

"David Rance" wrote
Does anyone here remember what happened to London in 1928? ;-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26153241


Interesting especially the photo of those tarred wooden blocks that they
used to lay on the roads that had floated up off the road, caption says
paving but it's not as we know it now. Used to quieten those metal rimmed
tyres on the cart wheels.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

In article ,
Bob Hobden wrote:
"David Rance" wrote
Does anyone here remember what happened to London in 1928? ;-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26153241

Interesting especially the photo of those tarred wooden blocks that they
used to lay on the roads that had floated up off the road, caption says
paving but it's not as we know it now. Used to quieten those metal rimmed
tyres on the cart wheels.

If you look when they are digging up roads for service works in
many cities, you will often see them. As tarmac took over, it
was very often just laid on top.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Malcolm" wrote in message ...


In article , Bob Hobden
writes
"Martin" wrote
What is shown on TV can be misleading. There have been film clips on TV
of the
flooded Thames flowing very vast in some places.
Hopefully you will stay dry :-)


It is running extremely fast at the moment and the water is rolling as we
say. It looks so powerful and lethal.
Luckily it's not been so high here that the water is actually flowing fast
across the land it only moves to flood more land. It's just flooding over
and raising the water table to above soil level in places, like some
neighbours gardens and the whole housing estate at the end of our road, and
all but one road out. I suspect it will take quite a long time for the
water table to go down.
We await mid week by which time it will be reacting to last nights storm
with more than just interest.

I hope all this water is filling the aquifers, otherwise I don't suppose
it will all that long before a hosepipe ban is announced :-)

--
Malcolm
================================================== =

Somebody laughed at me a couple of weeks ago when I remarked, "We will look
back on this after the hottest Summer for years and the hose pipe ban in
operation and ask the question why haven't we stored this water?"

Have a laugh at me but mark my words.

Mike


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