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Whilst digging in the garden I've found quite a lot of mahogany coloured
things that look like chrysalises, but wiggle when you disturb them.
They are about 3/4 inch long and 3/8 in diameter, a smooth cylinder for
half the length and segmented in the other half.

Goodies or baddies?

Jon
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Jon Rouse wrote in message
...
Sorry if you've down this one recently, but we've not been urgling of
late.

Whilst digging in the garden I've found quite a lot of mahogany coloured
things that look like chrysalises, but wiggle when you disturb them.
They are about 3/4 inch long and 3/8 in diameter, a smooth cylinder for
half the length and segmented in the other half.

Goodies or baddies?

Jon

Leatherjackets. Baddies

Liz

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andy.freeNOSPAMTAserve.co.uk writes

Jon Rouse wrote in message
...
Sorry if you've down this one recently, but we've not been urgling of
late.

Whilst digging in the garden I've found quite a lot of mahogany coloured
things that look like chrysalises, but wiggle when you disturb them.
They are about 3/4 inch long and 3/8 in diameter, a smooth cylinder for
half the length and segmented in the other half.

Goodies or baddies?

Jon

Leatherjackets. Baddies


Are these the ones that are juvenile daddy-long-legs?

The leather jacket stage does look like a chrysalis - it doesn't look
capable of eating anything.

Which stage is the baddy? What does it to?
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http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

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Leatherjackets. Baddies


Are these the ones that are juvenile daddy-long-legs?

Yes.

The leather jacket stage does look like a chrysalis - it doesn't look
capable of eating anything.

It isn't.

Which stage is the baddy? What does it to?

The grub. Lives on roots, especially those of grass. Like a big grey maggot.

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"Liz & Andy" wrote in message
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Jon Rouse wrote in message
...
Sorry if you've down this one recently, but we've not been urgling of
late.

Whilst digging in the garden I've found quite a lot of mahogany coloured
things that look like chrysalises, but wiggle when you disturb them.
They are about 3/4 inch long and 3/8 in diameter, a smooth cylinder for
half the length and segmented in the other half.

Goodies or baddies?

Jon

Leatherjackets. Baddies

Liz

I beg to differ with Liz on the leatherjacket ID (though it's difficult
without a picture). IME leatherjakets are are only about 1/8 inch diameter
and are segmented all the way down and are a dull greyish brown.

I tend to think that what you have found is indeed chrysalis (the mahogany
colour and the smooth half 'body') that are beginning to get ready to hatch.
Last year I found a few wriggly ones and gave them to the two young boys
next door (with a suitable 'home') so that they could see what happened.
They were thrilled when they emerged and we let them fly off :-) This year
the oldest says to me every time I see him 'I think I saw one of our
butterflies yesterday' .

HTH

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"Alison" o.uk wrote
I beg to differ with Liz on the leatherjacket ID (though it's difficult
without a picture). IME leatherjakets are are only about 1/8 inch
diameter and are segmented all the way down and are a dull greyish brown.

I tend to think that what you have found is indeed chrysalis (the
mahogany colour and the smooth half 'body') snip

I always thought those shiny, pointy, brown coloured thingies were
leatherjackets (they do rather look the part), but from previous urg
threads I gathered they probably are moth pupae.
Here's a site with some goodies and baddies which might help identify the
creatures concerned. Still don't know what a crane-fly pupa looks like,
though.

http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/leatherj.htm and click on the
'larval stage' link.

Sue

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says...

"Alison" o.uk wrote
I beg to differ with Liz on the leatherjacket ID (though it's difficult
without a picture). IME leatherjakets are are only about 1/8 inch
diameter and are segmented all the way down and are a dull greyish brown.

I tend to think that what you have found is indeed chrysalis (the
mahogany colour and the smooth half 'body') snip

I always thought those shiny, pointy, brown coloured thingies were
leatherjackets (they do rather look the part), but from previous urg
threads I gathered they probably are moth pupae.
Here's a site with some goodies and baddies which might help identify the
creatures concerned. Still don't know what a crane-fly pupa looks like,
though.

http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/leatherj.htm and click on the
'larval stage' link.

Hmm.. so that makes the things I dug up on Sunday *not*
leatherjackets...

Anyone got a clue what these are?...

http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug002.jpg
http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug003.jpg

There's a few heavily munched plants in the area where I dug them up.

Warwick

"Warwick" wrote
Hmm.. so that makes the things I dug up on Sunday *not*
leatherjackets...

Anyone got a clue what these are?...

http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug002.jpg
http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug003.jpg

There's a few heavily munched plants in the area where I dug them
up.
Warwick

No idea Warwick.........but these might be useful :~)

Bug ID :
http://www.ex.ac.uk/bugclub/bugid.html

http://info.ag.uidaho.edu/keys/plate...s_contents.htm

Jenny

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Hmm.. so that makes the things I dug up on Sunday *not*
leatherjackets...

Anyone got a clue what these are?...

http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug002.jpg
http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug003.jpg

Looks like a beetle larva - but my beetle book doesn't illustrate too
many larvæ and no pupæ at all. Pah! Charity shops!

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from "Sue" contains these words:

I always thought those shiny, pointy, brown coloured thingies were
leatherjackets (they do rather look the part), but from previous urg
threads I gathered they probably are moth pupae.
Here's a site with some goodies and baddies which might help identify the
creatures concerned. Still don't know what a crane-fly pupa looks like,
though.

Since I was knee-high to a grasshopper I've known the shiny
conker-coloured pupæ as leatherjackets, but all my dictionaries say
leatherjackets the larvæ.

So then I think, are the grubs I've always presumed were their
antecedants crane-fly grubs at all? They remind me neither of leather
nor a jacket, whereas the conker-coloured pupa does - of both. (My
mother and grandmother, and my father all referred to that pupa as a
leatherjacket.)

Next one I find I'm going to keep until it breaks out!

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The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Leatherjackets. Baddies


Are these the ones that are juvenile daddy-long-legs?

Yes.

The leather jacket stage does look like a chrysalis - it doesn't look
capable of eating anything.

It isn't.

Which stage is the baddy? What does it to?

The grub. Lives on roots, especially those of grass. Like a big grey maggot.

Thanks
I think I'm rather in favour of something that lives on the roots of
grass :-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

On Wed, 7 May 2003 14:26:05 +0100, Warwick
wrote:


Anyone got a clue what these are?...

http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug002.jpg
http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug003.jpg

There's a few heavily munched plants in the area where I dug them up.

Dunno, but they look as though they could be the laval stage of
earwigs?

--
Pete The Gardener
A room without books is like a body without a soul.

On Wed, 7 May 2003 15:51:21 +0100, Anthony E Anson
wrote:

I always thought those shiny, pointy, brown coloured thingies were
leatherjackets (they do rather look the part), but from previous urg
threads I gathered they probably are moth pupae.

Leatherjackets are a dull greyish brown whereas the "conker-coloured"
ones are moth or butterfly pupae (chrysalis)

The other weird thing that was pictured (I seem to have lost that
post) was probably a beetle larva and beetles are generally friends!


Pam in Bristol
pamdotmooreatvirgindotnet

In article , Alison alison.freeth@NoS
pAm.wideopenwindows.fsbusiness.co.uk writes

I beg to differ with Liz on the leatherjacket ID (though it's difficult
without a picture).

Same here.

IME leatherjakets are are only about 1/8 inch diameter
and are segmented all the way down and are a dull greyish brown.

Yep - a leather jacket always reminds me of a tiny, and very dirty
penis!


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writes
On Wed, 7 May 2003 14:26:05 +0100, Warwick
wrote:


Anyone got a clue what these are?...

http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug002.jpg
http://www.affordable-afpers.co.uk/maystuff/bug003.jpg

There's a few heavily munched plants in the area where I dug them up.

Dunno, but they look as though they could be the laval stage of
earwigs?

You're going from the spanner-like tool at one end? ;-)
--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm