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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 20:22:08 +0100, Janet wrote:

We eradicated a wall to wall solid infestation of JKW from a son's
garden by cutting the lot to ground level (in full growth)then
persistently cutting off ALL new growth at a couple of inches high
before new leaves opened, so it couldn't photosynthesise and slowly
starved its root system to death. It took a couple of seasons.

Remember you can't legally bin or move JKW waste off your premises ;
best to just dry it and burn.

Janet.


That's what I did last year with most. There is still a clump of JKW
by one the garden fences but it look quite nice so I'm leaving it.

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On 12/08/2014 09:35, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


That's what I did last year with most. There is still a clump of JKW
by one the garden fences but it look quite nice so I'm leaving it.


You are out of your tiny mind.
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On 12/08/2014 11:09, Ragnar wrote:
On 12/08/2014 09:35, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


That's what I did last year with most. There is still a clump of JKW
by one the garden fences but it look quite nice so I'm leaving it.


You are out of your tiny mind.
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If it can be contained then it is a very attractive plant, though I
doubt if you have ever looked closely at it in flower.
It's easy to see why plant collectors went for it.
There is a variegated form
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/283104/
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"David Hill" wrote
If it can be contained then it is a very attractive plant, though I
doubt if you have ever looked closely at it in flower.
It's easy to see why plant collectors went for it.
There is a variegated form
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/283104/


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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:09:42 +0100, Ragnar wrote:

On 12/08/2014 09:35, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


That's what I did last year with most. There is still a clump of JKW
by one the garden fences but it look quite nice so I'm leaving it.


You are out of your tiny mind.


I like JKW and so I don't consider it to be a problem. I have a few
plants that are more troublesome, the worse one to me is grass.

Steve



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On 12/08/2014 11:09, Ragnar wrote:
On 12/08/2014 09:35, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:


That's what I did last year with most. There is still a clump of JKW
by one the garden fences but it look quite nice so I'm leaving it.


You are out of your tiny mind.
:-(

I was thinking about this.

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.

Andy

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On 17/08/14 21:44, Vir Campestris wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.


With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Knotweed is not ebola.

It is killable - although it needs a programme that is followed properly
for 2-3 years. It is even DIY killable needing a combination of physical
intervention and treatment with glyphosate.

I also know of a recent property sale where knotweed featured where
there was no issue with sale or insurance. Sure, it was flagged up -
that is right an proper.

But the managing agents had put a treatment programme in place and
everyone was happy.
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On 18/08/14 16:32, Malcolm wrote:

In article , Tim Watts writes
On 17/08/14 21:44, Vir Campestris wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.


With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Well said. Indeed, it is the worst kind of scaremongering and is to be deplored on this public newsgroup.

I agree with everything below.


And maybe you are right, maybe not - but it doesn't matter.
What does matter is that people will, if they have any choice,
go elsewhere - thus depressing the house price.


But the managing agents had put a treatment programme in place and everyone was happy.


In some places I suspect that would be the case, e.g. student
digs in a student "ghetto", since students will put up with
anything.

Other places might be different.


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On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:47:40 +0100, Tom Gardner
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On 18/08/14 16:32, Malcolm wrote:

In article , Tim Watts writes
On 17/08/14 21:44, Vir Campestris wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.

With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Well said. Indeed, it is the worst kind of scaremongering and is to be deplored on this public newsgroup.

I agree with everything below.


And maybe you are right, maybe not - but it doesn't matter.
What does matter is that people will, if they have any choice,
go elsewhere - thus depressing the house price.


I got my "infested" bungalow for 20% less than next door but I don't
know if the price was depressed by the Knotweed. It didn't bother me
at all. The bulk of the weed was removed in an afternoon. The bit
that's left looks very nice.

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On 18/08/14 17:01, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

I got my "infested" bungalow for 20% less than next door but I don't
know if the price was depressed by the Knotweed. It didn't bother me
at all. The bulk of the weed was removed in an afternoon. The bit
that's left looks very nice.


And the worst that you have to do if next door has knotweed is be
prepared to put in a sufficiently deep root barrier.

OK - it's a PITA but it's not a hugely expensive PITA.



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On 18/08/14 16:47, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 18/08/14 16:32, Malcolm wrote:

In article , Tim Watts
writes
On 17/08/14 21:44, Vir Campestris wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.

With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Well said. Indeed, it is the worst kind of scaremongering and is to be
deplored on this public newsgroup.

I agree with everything below.


And maybe you are right, maybe not - but it doesn't matter.
What does matter is that people will, if they have any choice,
go elsewhere - thus depressing the house price.


It had no effect on the house price of the sale I know of.

The price was £50k up over 2 years ago (South East).


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In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:32:40 +0100, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
On 17/08/14 21:44, Vir Campestris wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.

With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Well said. Indeed, it is the worst kind of scaremongering and is to be
deplored on this public newsgroup.


Meanwhile as part of Asian week Lidl in The Netherlands is selling cheap pots of
bamboo plants. Think of the problems that is going to cause.


None?

There are no bamboos that are more than mildly invasive outside
the very warmest parts of the UK (and the Netherlands is similar
to the south-east). Furthermore, they have to compete with
11,000 years of plant immigration, and the survival of the most
thuggish.

In the UK, Japanese knotweed is the ONLY vascular land plant that
has made itself an ecological or otherwise serious nuisance over
the majority of the country. And there are under a dozen that
are a serious nuisance in even a few parts of the UK. Out of
God alone knows how many thousand introductions.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On 18/08/14 21:31, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Martin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:32:40 +0100, Malcolm wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
On 17/08/14 21:44, Vir Campestris wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.

With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Well said. Indeed, it is the worst kind of scaremongering and is to be
deplored on this public newsgroup.


Meanwhile as part of Asian week Lidl in The Netherlands is selling cheap pots of
bamboo plants. Think of the problems that is going to cause.


None?


At the corner of my road there is something coming up through
the asphalt pavement. The asphalt has been lifted maybe 1cm
and penetrated by the plant. Currently the shoots are shredded
and apparently dead, but when they were new and alive I formed
the impression they were a bamboo-type plant. The big clue was
the 8ft high bamboo on the other side of the wooden fence,
maybe 2ft away.

That might be considered to be "mildly invasive".

There are no bamboos that are more than mildly invasive outside
the very warmest parts of the UK (and the Netherlands is similar
to the south-east). Furthermore, they have to compete with
11,000 years of plant immigration, and the survival of the most
thuggish.



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In article ,
Tom Gardner wrote:

Perhaps the following might be of interest - if you have knotweed your
house is almost certainly unsaleable, and possibly uninsurable.

With all due respect, that view is overblown hysteria.

Well said. Indeed, it is the worst kind of scaremongering and is to be
deplored on this public newsgroup.

Meanwhile as part of Asian week Lidl in The Netherlands is selling cheap pots of
bamboo plants. Think of the problems that is going to cause.


None?


At the corner of my road there is something coming up through
the asphalt pavement. The asphalt has been lifted maybe 1cm
and penetrated by the plant. Currently the shoots are shredded
and apparently dead, but when they were new and alive I formed
the impression they were a bamboo-type plant. The big clue was
the 8ft high bamboo on the other side of the wooden fence,
maybe 2ft away.

That might be considered to be "mildly invasive".


Quite. Do you know how many 'native' British plants do the same?
Why aren't they called invasive?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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