#1

- About the same size and shape as a ladybird
- Likes same plants as ladybirds
- It's back appears slightly ridged
- More oval than a LB
- Some are grey with orange markings, others the reverse
- Markings are thin streaks across the body - look a bit like tiny
louvres
- Do not fly or crawl away if disturbed

#2

- About 5mm by 2
- Bright green
- Sits on broad bean leaves
- Long folded back legs
- Jumps when disturbed
- Plants have some 3mm round holes in the leaves

Thanks!

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

#1 Dunno

#2 Probably a young cricket.

Andy

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#1

- About the same size and shape as a ladybird
- Likes same plants as ladybirds
- It's back appears slightly ridged
- More oval than a LB
- Some are grey with orange markings, others the reverse
- Markings are thin streaks across the body - look a bit like tiny
louvres
- Do not fly or crawl away if disturbed

#2

- About 5mm by 2
- Bright green
- Sits on broad bean leaves
- Long folded back legs
- Jumps when disturbed
- Plants have some 3mm round holes in the leaves

Thanks!

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com

The first one is almost certainly ladybird pupae - as they don't move.
You will find that sooner or later they are an ampty shell where the
adult ladybird has finally hatched.

The second one sounds like a bush cricket assuming you mean cm rather
than mm.

Hope this helps,
Helen

P.S

The second one-
If it IS mm I would suggest a froghopper? Is there cuckoo spit on your plants?

In article ,
(Helen) wrote:

Is there cuckoo spit on your plants?

What does that look like? I don't have a cuckoo and wouldn't know how to
make it spit :-)

Steve

In article ,
(Helen) wrote:

The second one sounds like a bush cricket assuming you mean cm rather
than mm.

No, I mean mm

Steve Harris - Cheltenham - Real address steve AT netservs DOT com