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from Alan Gould contains these words:


My own view is that the most certain way to be sure that food being
consumed is genuinely organic, environmentally friendly and really fresh
is to grow it ones self. The next best option is to go to growers'
markets, or to trade direct with a local accredited grower. A very
popular way of doing that is the 'box' scheme, where deliveries are made
at regular intervals to customers. Most box schemes however have a
waiting list due demand always exceeding available supply.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.


We have a local farmer who has converted a good deal of his land to
Organic for box schemes and he has 9 vans running around all over the
place. Even goes down to London! (Good 2 1/2 hours from here)

Must be damn good business if you ask me.

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The message
from Alan Gould contains these words:


My own view is that the most certain way to be sure that food being
consumed is genuinely organic, environmentally friendly and really fresh
is to grow it ones self. The next best option is to go to growers'
markets, or to trade direct with a local accredited grower. A very
popular way of doing that is the 'box' scheme, where deliveries are made
at regular intervals to customers. Most box schemes however have a
waiting list due demand always exceeding available supply.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.


We have a local farmer who has converted a good deal of his land to
Organic for box schemes and he has 9 vans running around all over the
place. Even goes down to London! (Good 2 1/2 hours from here)

Must be damn good business if you ask me.

--
email farmer chris on
Please don`t use as it`s a spam haven.

In article , Christopher Norton
writes

We have a local farmer who has converted a good deal of his land to
Organic for box schemes and he has 9 vans running around all over the
place. Even goes down to London! (Good 2 1/2 hours from here)

Must be damn good business if you ask me.

It is. When we were growing certified organic produce commercially we
had to put our own kitchen requirements by very quickly or there would
be none left for us. We were keen on letting customers come and have a
look round at how their organic food was grown. They loved doing that,
the snag being that they would demand crops they could see growing that
were not even ready for sale, or want to place orders for stuff which
was already sold before it was sown. We still have people come now, 10+
years after we have stopped selling, when they know we will have surplus
goods. One chap asked us what we did to the salads and veggies to make
them so much better than shop bought ones. I told him "It isn't what we
do to them, it's what we don't do, we just let them grow naturally"
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

In message , Alan Gould
writes

goods. One chap asked us what we did to the salads and veggies to make
them so much better than shop bought ones. I told him "It isn't what we
do to them, it's what we don't do, we just let them grow naturally"

I'd be surprised if you were growing the same varieties as the
mainstream commercial farmers sell to shops. Selecting commercial
varieties for long shelf life, uniform size and crop timing doesn't
leave much room for taste or texture.

One thing I like about Organic(TM) farmers is that they grow more
interesting minority cultivars that actually taste better.

Even the humble golden delicious apple can actually taste reasonable if
grown on a rootstock that isn't intended to pump them up big and
quickly. And properly ripened crops freshly picked for the table always
taste better.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

goods. One chap asked us what we did to the salads and veggies to make
them so much better than shop bought ones. I told him "It isn't what we
do to them, it's what we don't do, we just let them grow naturally"

I'd be surprised if you were growing the same varieties as the
mainstream commercial farmers sell to shops. Selecting commercial
varieties for long shelf life, uniform size and crop timing doesn't
leave much room for taste or texture.

One thing I like about Organic(TM) farmers is that they grow more
interesting minority cultivars that actually taste better.

Even the humble golden delicious apple can actually taste reasonable if
grown on a rootstock that isn't intended to pump them up big and
quickly. And properly ripened crops freshly picked for the table always
taste better.

All you say is true but on the subject of apples I've decided that our
cooler conditions mean longer maturing for the fruit which allows flavour to
develop. I could be wrong but I've tried Golden Delicious from all over the
world and they rarely taste of anything but slightly sweet water. When we
grew them they were small, green and often maggoty but they tasted divine.

It's not just GD, the other week, in desperation, I bought some Cape Granny
Smiths, an applie with a bite to it if ever there was one. If it's grown in
England. Had I been blindfolded I reckon I wouldn't have been able to
differentiate between it and a GD.

Mary

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

In article , Martin Brown
writes

Even the humble golden delicious apple can actually taste reasonable if
grown on a rootstock that isn't intended to pump them up big and
quickly. And properly ripened crops freshly picked for the table always
taste better.

Agreed, and more so if they have been grown by approved organic methods.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

In article , Martin Brown
writes

Even the humble golden delicious apple can actually taste reasonable if
grown on a rootstock that isn't intended to pump them up big and
quickly. And properly ripened crops freshly picked for the table always
taste better.

Agreed, and more so if they have been grown by approved organic methods.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

martin wrote in message ...
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:47:34 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


I once explained to my wife that Sainsbury's, at least, was arranged
in a logical manner, their website used explain the logic, and how it
was aimed at making shopping easy, quick and efficient.
A random maximised route through Sainsbury's seems to be preferred.

That is the only possible strategy in ours. They change the positioning
of
the goods too frequently.

and there's nothing on their website about the layout of the items on
sale anymore.

Possibly because the claim that a supermarket layout was
'aimed at making shopping easy, quick and efficient' was
so transparently false as to be laughable. Supermarket
layouts are aimed at maximising sales of the higher-margin
items- so for instance, many decades ago they had already
worked out that the basic shopping items like bread, milk & sugar should be
widely separated. You can't just dash in & buy the basics without having to
go past lots of other attractive
items that will leap into your trolley.

--
Anton

"anton" wrote
Possibly because the claim that a supermarket layout was
'aimed at making shopping easy, quick and efficient' was
so transparently false as to be laughable. Supermarket
layouts are aimed at maximising sales of the higher-margin
items- so for instance, many decades ago they had already
worked out that the basic shopping items like bread, milk & sugar
should be
widely separated. You can't just dash in & buy the basics without
having to
go past lots of other attractive
items that will leap into your trolley.
--
Anton

And why is the fruit and veg often the FIRST thing you have to put in
your trolley where it can get squashed by all the other stuff?
Jenny

lots of other attractive items

In a supermarket?

Mary

Mary Fisher wrote in message
.. .

lots of other attractive items

In a supermarket?



:-))

--
Anton

lots of other attractive items

In a supermarket?

Waitrose....

;-)

OK, and Booths.

You win.

But you always do :-)))

Mary

regards
sarah


--
Think of it as evolution in action.