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Neighborus ignoramus and our hedge
Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife: this included hawthorn, blackthorn, guelder rose, dog rose, hazel and field maple, and has done amazingly well, reaching 8ft high in parts and flowering and producing many berries for the birds. We have been thrilled with its progress. However, we have the misfortune to have acquired an extremely odd neighbour who refuses to talk to anyone (especially us) and seems obsessed with his privacy. He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. This in itself does not particularly disturb us, since he is on our north side and it has probably not occurred to him that it will be his own light which will suffer, not ours. This man gives every appearance of not being a gardener. However, we are upset that in planting the leylandii he has (or has had) our own deciduous hedge cut back - probably beyond the boundary, but it is difficult to prove that of course. They have removed growing tips of the wild roses and have also today cut off some branches of an existing ash tree which was right on the boundary - and thrown them over our side. We are sure that our hedge will recover (and hope his dies quickly!) but is there anything we can do legally about what he has done to the ash tree? I've looked on the hedgeline site but it doesn't really help. Sorry to sound off, but you can all imagine how we feel! By the way, there is absolutely NO way we can discuss this with him - a polite and friendly good morning is met with a turned back, and after a year we've just given up. -- Sally in Shropshire, UK Remove the LIZARD to email reply |
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Neighborus ignoramus and our hedge
In message , Sally Thompson
writes Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife However, we have the misfortune to have acquired an extremely odd neighbour who refuses to talk to anyone (especially us) and seems obsessed with his privacy. He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. However, we are upset that in planting the leylandii he has (or has had) our own deciduous hedge cut back - probably beyond the boundary, but it is difficult to prove that of course. They have removed growing tips of the wild roses and have also today cut off some branches of an existing ash tree which was right on the boundary - and thrown them over our side. We are sure that our hedge will recover (and hope his dies quickly!) but is there anything we can do legally about what he has done to the ash tree? I've looked on the hedgeline site but it doesn't really help. The Leylandii might cause a problem to the hedge in the future if they are too close and start to out compete your hedge plants. Re the Ash tree - do you know who owns the tree? assuming you do for now. - presumably these branches were overhanging his garden? If so then in general he can cut them back to his boundary (I think here are provisions about not causing damage to a tree , such as causing it to die or fall over etc.) He is supposed to offer them to you, though not just dump them in your garden. If the branches were on your side however then I guess you would have a claim against him, - presumably you could make a civil claim against him for damage to the tree - but in reality I don't see that as a sensible course of action. Would it count as criminal damage I wonder? If however the tree is covered by a Tree Protection Order then he would be under the laws regarding them, AIUI it is the local Authority who are responsible for taking action in these cases. The LA should be able to tell you if the tree is covered by a TPO and who to report it to if it is. -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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Sally Thompson wrote:
snip also today cut off some branches of an existing ash tree which was right on the boundary - and thrown them over our side. But is there anything we can do legally about what he has done to the ash tree? If he has unbalanced the tree it may fall over then he would probably be responsible for any damage caused. If the tree is definately yours then he did the right thing by putting the cuttings over your side, however if the tree is his then you should throw the cuttings back over his fence! Sorry to sound off, but you can all imagine how we feel! By the way, there is absolutely NO way we can discuss this with him - a polite and friendly good morning is met with a turned back, and after a year we've just given up. You could go to his front door and invite him for coffee but some neighbours are just a waste of oxygen and short of getting a few blokes down the pub to give him correctional training there in nowt 't be done. He is legally entitled to be an a***hole if he wants to be. Steve R -- "Latest gear:- One piece one button suit extremely comfortable, perfect for Relaxation, Sports, Hiking, Swimming, a must have" OOPS sorry you have one!!! |
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Basically, his leylandii will kill "his side" of your hedge. As far as who's
branches overhang whos boundary, you will be chopping off branches ad-in-fin-item (can't spell it, nice word though). T r Y and have a chat with the guy, just to see what his ideas are. OK, he likes his privacy and that's fine, but just try and ask him what he would like because you are reasonable too and maybe you could both be happy with something? I managed to come to an agreement with somebody once and nobody ever agrees with me, so it is possible. Chris French and Helen Johnson wrote in message ... In message , Sally Thompson writes Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife However, we have the misfortune to have acquired an extremely odd neighbour who refuses to talk to anyone (especially us) and seems obsessed with his privacy. He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. However, we are upset that in planting the leylandii he has (or has had) our own deciduous hedge cut back - probably beyond the boundary, but it is difficult to prove that of course. They have removed growing tips of the wild roses and have also today cut off some branches of an existing ash tree which was right on the boundary - and thrown them over our side. We are sure that our hedge will recover (and hope his dies quickly!) but is there anything we can do legally about what he has done to the ash tree? I've looked on the hedgeline site but it doesn't really help. The Leylandii might cause a problem to the hedge in the future if they are too close and start to out compete your hedge plants. Re the Ash tree - do you know who owns the tree? assuming you do for now. - presumably these branches were overhanging his garden? If so then in general he can cut them back to his boundary (I think here are provisions about not causing damage to a tree , such as causing it to die or fall over etc.) He is supposed to offer them to you, though not just dump them in your garden. If the branches were on your side however then I guess you would have a claim against him, - presumably you could make a civil claim against him for damage to the tree - but in reality I don't see that as a sensible course of action. Would it count as criminal damage I wonder? If however the tree is covered by a Tree Protection Order then he would be under the laws regarding them, AIUI it is the local Authority who are responsible for taking action in these cases. The LA should be able to tell you if the tree is covered by a TPO and who to report it to if it is. -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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anne wrote in message ... Basically, his leylandii will kill "his side" of your hedge. As far as who's branches overhang whos boundary, you will be chopping off branches ad-in-fin-item (can't spell it, nice word though). T r Y and have a chat with the guy, just to see what his ideas are. OK, he likes his privacy and that's fine, but just try and ask him what he would like because you are reasonable too and maybe you could both be happy with something? I managed to come to an agreement with somebody once and nobody ever agrees with me, so it is possible. Top posted this sorry. Chris French and Helen Johnson wrote in message ... In message , Sally Thompson writes Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife However, we have the misfortune to have acquired an extremely odd neighbour who refuses to talk to anyone (especially us) and seems obsessed with his privacy. He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. However, we are upset that in planting the leylandii he has (or has had) our own deciduous hedge cut back - probably beyond the boundary, but it is difficult to prove that of course. They have removed growing tips of the wild roses and have also today cut off some branches of an existing ash tree which was right on the boundary - and thrown them over our side. We are sure that our hedge will recover (and hope his dies quickly!) but is there anything we can do legally about what he has done to the ash tree? I've looked on the hedgeline site but it doesn't really help. The Leylandii might cause a problem to the hedge in the future if they are too close and start to out compete your hedge plants. Re the Ash tree - do you know who owns the tree? assuming you do for now. - presumably these branches were overhanging his garden? If so then in general he can cut them back to his boundary (I think here are provisions about not causing damage to a tree , such as causing it to die or fall over etc.) He is supposed to offer them to you, though not just dump them in your garden. If the branches were on your side however then I guess you would have a claim against him, - presumably you could make a civil claim against him for damage to the tree - but in reality I don't see that as a sensible course of action. Would it count as criminal damage I wonder? If however the tree is covered by a Tree Protection Order then he would be under the laws regarding them, AIUI it is the local Authority who are responsible for taking action in these cases. The LA should be able to tell you if the tree is covered by a TPO and who to report it to if it is. -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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"Essjay001" wrote in message ... He is legally entitled to be an a***hole if he wants to be. So many a**holes in this world these days aren't there? I moved house to get away from neighbours because of an a**hole neighbour who was into gardening - but only on her terms. I keep my hedges cut and have even been chastised here for daring to have a bonfire. It seems whatever you do, someone is unhappy. Well I am unhappy at the moment! My "neighbour" a farmer , who lives some way away from me ( not even sure which farm it is) has decided to wontonly role his big blue tractor over my 15 year old mature Hebe - he has totally trashed it. Of course, he cant get up the little footpath/lane to his fields unless he comes well over the corner of my drive. He especially has a problem when he has an attachment on his front and a triple low loader 30ft) on his rear. But to deliberately back up the lane and drive over my plant and to do it several times is not an accident. If he were to ask me to prune it , I would have ( not that it overhangs). But he needs half my drive to turn into the lane. I am not willing to give him my drive! I might (would) have accommodated him had he not destroyed my garden. I can be very reasonable - even a doormat to avoid arguments. But he has gone too far. What next? Take the tail end off my car because he cant get up the lane? Now theres a selfish neighbour and a complete a**hole! And now I'm going to be one too. Why not? |
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Neighborus ignoramus and our hedge
Sally Thompson wrote in message ... Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife: this included hawthorn, blackthorn, guelder rose, dog rose, hazel and field maple, and has done amazingly well, reaching 8ft high in parts and flowering and producing many berries for the birds. We have been thrilled with its progress. However, we have the misfortune to have acquired an extremely odd neighbour who refuses to talk to anyone (especially us) and seems obsessed with his privacy. There are lots of problems that neighbours can create- I'd suggest that 'not talking' is one of the most minor. You're lucky. He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. This in itself does not particularly disturb us, since he is on our north side and it has probably not occurred to him that it will be his own light which will suffer, not ours. This man gives every appearance of not being a gardener. However, we are upset that in planting the leylandii he has (or has had) our own deciduous hedge cut back - probably beyond the boundary, but it is difficult to prove that of course. This is the crucial bit. He's entitled to cut anything back to the boundary. If that's all he's done then there is no point trying to assert your preferences in his garden. If he's gone past the boundary then I don't understand why it's difficult to prove it. The cut ends of the hedge should be visible and a two-year old hedge shouldn't be impenetrable for you to check it. They have removed growing tips of the wild roses and have also today cut off some branches of an existing ash tree which was right on the boundary - and thrown them over our side. That suggests to me that the neighbour is well-informed as to the law, and that he thinks that the tree is on your side of the boundary. We are sure that our hedge will recover (and hope his dies quickly!) but is there anything we can do legally about what he has done to the ash tree? I've looked on the hedgeline site but it doesn't really help. If it's on your side of the boundary then he's entitled to cut off any branches which overhang his garden (presumably those are the branches that he's cut off?). The branches belong to you, and you have no right to dangle your property over his garden. If the tree is on his side then he can do anything he likes to it, unless there's a tree preservation order in place. If the tree is exactly on the boundary i.e. shared, then he's still entitled to cut off any branches which overhang his side, though he should dispose of them himself. Sorry to sound off, but you can all imagine how we feel! Not quite. Your priority might be a wildlife-friendly hedge- his seems to be privacy. You seem to be upset that he hasn't allowed your hedge to encroach on his garden. If he has trimmed the hedge back beyond the boundary, he's a naughty boy, but his other actions merely suggest that he wants his garden his way, not your way. I'd suggest that you take advice from the CAB or somewhere as the legal rights and wrongs before getting offended. -- Anton |
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Neighborus ignoramus and our hedge
Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:158939
"Sally Thompson" wrote in message ... Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife: this included hawthorn, blackthorn, guelder rose, dog rose, hazel and field maple, and has done amazingly well, reaching 8ft high in parts and flowering and producing many berries for the birds. We have been thrilled with its progress. snip He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. Why not think positive? Leylandii is a good nesting place for several species of birds. |
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Neighborus ignoramus and our hedge
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:35:00 +0100, "Jim Paterson"
wrote: "Sally Thompson" wrote in message ... Two years ago we planted a mixed deciduous hedge to support the wildlife: this included hawthorn, blackthorn, guelder rose, dog rose, hazel and field maple, and has done amazingly well, reaching 8ft high in parts and flowering and producing many berries for the birds. We have been thrilled with its progress. snip He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. Why not think positive? Leylandii is a good nesting place for several species of birds. and today is the start of grouse shooting. Shoot the bugger. -- Martin |
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:00:41 +0200, martin wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:35:00 +0100, "Jim Paterson" wrote: "Sally Thompson" wrote in message ... snip He has now planted a leylandii hedge all along the other side of this boundary. Why not think positive? Leylandii is a good nesting place for several species of birds. and today is the start of grouse shooting. Shoot the bugger. :-) -- Sally in Shropshire, UK Remove the LIZARD to email reply |
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Neighborus ignoramus and our hedge
martin wrote:
and today is the start of grouse shooting. Wished I'd known, not that I'm a hunter. I flushed a grouse almost underneath my feet walking up a wooded trail from my pond. Now, THAT will get the blood pumping! In the Northeastern U.S., it's been so rainy for so long there's a move to make mildew the New York state flower. Not that I'm going to get any sympathy from the U.K. Cheers! Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G |
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