On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:42 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
.. .
My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return
visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks John

Soapy water and methelated spirits mixed together is even better :~))
A squirt of washing up liquid + a dollop of meths in a pint of water.

and a small dash of bitters and a splash of tonic.......
--
Martin

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"John Edgar" wrote in message
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My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Washing-up liquid is not soap.

But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...

My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Washing-up liquid is not soap.

But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...

My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Washing-up liquid is not soap.

But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

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from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

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from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped
--
Martin

The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped
--
Martin

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:42 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
.. .
My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of
the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return
visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do
not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and
what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks John

Soapy water and methelated spirits mixed together is even better
:~))
A squirt of washing up liquid + a dollop of meths in a pint of
water.

and a small dash of bitters and a splash of tonic.......
Martin

Shaken not stirred...........
Jenny

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these
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"John Edgar" wrote in message
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My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Washing-up liquid is not soap.

But it does the trick.

--
Rusty Hinge
horrid·squeak&zetnet·co·uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

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from martin contains these words:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped

You overquoted. Life's too short to wade through that lot.

--
Rusty Hinge
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:07:35 +0100, John Edgar
wrote:

My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks

John
In limine sapientiae


Great. Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll soft-soap them with a
little meths. Don't want to get them too drunk: I'd rather they just
went.
John
In limine sapientiae

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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:
"John Edgar" wrote in message
...

My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Washing-up liquid is not soap.

But it does the trick.

Any wetting agent will interfere with insects respiration.
Soft soaps are more effective and gungy.

You do have to be careful what you use it on. Some plants do not like
this treatment. I defoliated a bay tree once this way. It stripped the
surface waxy coating and the leaves desiccated within a few days of
application.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:51:38 +0200, "JennyC" wrote:


"martin" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:38:42 +0200, "JennyC"
wrote:


"John Edgar" wrote in message
.. .
My roses are still growing hard here in Sussex, and because of
the
dryness and heat we now have the dreaded aphids making a return
visit.
I don't want to use Rose Clear etc, and have heard that they do
not
like soapy water. Is this true, and if so what sort of soap and
what
strength of mixture is best? Will dilute washing up liquid do the
trick for instance?

Thanks John

Soapy water and methelated spirits mixed together is even better
:~))
A squirt of washing up liquid + a dollop of meths in a pint of
water.

and a small dash of bitters and a splash of tonic.......
Martin

Shaken not stirred...........

with a Greek Cypriot Olive/Lime.........
--
Martin

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:35:50 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:

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from martin contains these words:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:11:34 +0100, Jaques d'Altrades
wrote:
The message
from martin contains these words:

Soft soap is apparently made from vegetable oils

Definition: [n] a soft (or liquid) soap made from vegetable oils;
used in certain skin diseases

*or* it's not according to..........

/snip/

Soft soap contains potash.

that's what Webster Dictionary says that I quoted and you snipped

You overquoted. Life's too short to wade through that lot.

You need to read faster and post slower :-)
--
Martin