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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard that
it
has
effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after New
Year's
Day?

Why?
Be careful if you do. I gather they are grafted and you could
encourage lots of straight ordinary hazel rather than more
contortions.
Yes I think you would ruin it.

FWIW when we moved here someone had cut out all the twisted branches from
our Hazel, thinking it was diseased! I cut all the straight growth out,
leaving just a stump. After three years it is now about 8ft tall with a
good
spread of bizarre contorted branches. I lop the odd straight branches as
they appear.

Thanks for the advice.

We also have a twisted willow which is a constant source of worry. It
produces masses of leaves and new twigs every spring - which nearly all
die
back come June. It then puts on new growth again in a hap-hazard fashion
until fall. I have carefully removed several dead branches - everything
else
seems healthy, but.....

It sounds sick.

Franz Heymann

"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:13:53 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

What a pity. We have a little private path at the back between ourselves
and our neighbours. The hazel of which I speak has got out of hand and
is
making the path unusable on wet days.

Please, may I give it a slightly less harsh pruning?

In that case I would cut off some of the stems around the base,
leaving the central ones intact. That would give you room to pass but
not spoil the attractiveness too much.
Then you would have to be extra vigilant for the straight ones which
may well try to invade the space you have made.

Thanks. I will do just that on the next sunny day, even if it is as soon as
tomorrow.

Franz

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:13:54 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message
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You can root hazels if you are lucky, and it's worth trying so
you get an HLWS on its own roots, hence less prone to throwing
straight suckers.

One is enough in the small garden I have, and I am too old to think of
starting a brand new one now. {:-((

You are never too old to plant trees and shrubs. The more you
plant, the longer you live.
--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:13:54 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message
...

You can root hazels if you are lucky, and it's worth trying so
you get an HLWS on its own roots, hence less prone to throwing
straight suckers.

One is enough in the small garden I have, and I am too old to think of
starting a brand new one now. {:-((

You are never too old to plant trees and shrubs. The more you
plant, the longer you live.
--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

What ever you do DON'T burn the bits you cut off, flower arrangers would
love to get their hands on them, Try a local florist or two.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk
***2004 catalogue now available***

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:27:21 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

What ever you do DON'T burn the bits you cut off, flower arrangers would
love to get their hands on them, Try a local florist or two.

Is there a shortage of 9s in the flower trade? :-)
--
Martin

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

~
~"martin" wrote in message
.. .
~ On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
~ Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard that it
~has
~ effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after New Year's
~ Day?
~
~ There's a badly constructed subject if ever I saw one. I thought it
~ was spam. :-)
~
~Hell's delight.
~{:-((
~
~I have now corrected the second one as well.
~
~Franz

Oh, erm, Franz...

:-)


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC),
(jane) wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

~
~"martin" wrote in message
. ..
~ On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
~ Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard that it
~has
~ effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after New Year's
~ Day?
~
~ There's a badly constructed subject if ever I saw one. I thought it
~ was spam. :-)
~
~Hell's delight.
~{:-((
~
~I have now corrected the second one as well.
~
~Franz

Oh, erm, Franz...

only trying to be helpful eh? ...
--
Martin

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"Sue da Nimm" . wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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"Pam Moore" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard
that
it
has
effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after New
Year's
Day?

Why?
Be careful if you do. I gather they are grafted and you could
encourage lots of straight ordinary hazel rather than more
contortions.
Yes I think you would ruin it.

FWIW when we moved here someone had cut out all the twisted branches
from
our Hazel, thinking it was diseased! I cut all the straight growth out,
leaving just a stump. After three years it is now about 8ft tall with a
good
spread of bizarre contorted branches. I lop the odd straight branches as
they appear.

Thanks for the advice.

We also have a twisted willow which is a constant source of worry. It
produces masses of leaves and new twigs every spring - which nearly all
die
back come June. It then puts on new growth again in a hap-hazard fashion
until fall. I have carefully removed several dead branches - everything
else
seems healthy, but.....

It sounds sick.

Franz Heymann



I had one (Willow) that did just that for a few years. It had 4 major
branches and over the last 3 years it lost one per year. I mean totally
lost as in no leaves at all.

I cut the tree down last summer, and found that the base of the trunk,
beneath the bark had a coating of some white substance.

Since my C&G - Trees,Shrubs and Roses course of Autumn term, I now suspect
this was mycellium of Honey Fungus. I saw no toadstools though. I am now
expecting the sickly looking conifer to depart sometime in the coming few
years.

The message
from martin contains these words:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC),
(jane) wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:
~"martin" wrote in message
. ..
~ On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
~ Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard
that it
~has
~ effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after
New Year's
~ Day?
~
~ There's a badly constructed subject if ever I saw one. I thought it
~ was spam. :-)
~
~Hell's delight.
~{:-((
~
~I have now corrected the second one as well.
~
~Franz

Oh, erm, Franz...

only trying to be helpful eh? ...

Who is?

--
Rusty Hinge http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/tqt.htm

Dark thoughts about the Wumpus concerto played with piano,
iron bar and two sledge hammers. (Wumpus, 15/11/03)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:06:06 GMT, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from martin contains these words:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC),
(jane) wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:
~"martin" wrote in message
. ..
~ On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
~ Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard
that it
~has
~ effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after
New Year's
~ Day?
~
~ There's a badly constructed subject if ever I saw one. I thought it
~ was spam. :-)
~
~Hell's delight.
~{:-((
~
~I have now corrected the second one as well.
~
~Franz

Oh, erm, Franz...

only trying to be helpful eh? ...

Who is?

Harry Laudanum?
--
Martin

"David Hill" wrote in message
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What ever you do DON'T burn the bits you cut off, flower arrangers would
love to get their hands on them, Try a local florist or two.

OK. I will ask around.

Franz

"jane" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

~
~"martin" wrote in message
.. .
~ On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
~ Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard that
it
~has
~ effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after New
Year's
~ Day?
~
~ There's a badly constructed subject if ever I saw one. I thought it
~ was spam. :-)
~
~Hell's delight.
~{:-((
~
~I have now corrected the second one as well.
~
~Franz

Oh, erm, Franz...

:-)

I formally give up after this final attempt.
{:-((

Franz

"martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC),
(jane) wrote:

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:42 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:

~
~"martin" wrote in message
. ..
~ On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
~ wrote:
~
~ Would I ruin a Corylus avellana "Contorta" if I prune it so hard that
it
~has
~ effectively been coppiced some time between now and just after New
Year's
~ Day?
~
~ There's a badly constructed subject if ever I saw one. I thought it
~ was spam. :-)
~
~Hell's delight.
~{:-((
~
~I have now corrected the second one as well.
~
~Franz

Oh, erm, Franz...

only trying to be helpful eh? ...

I doubt if there are any further permutations left, but anxiously await your
next attempt.
{:-((

Franz

"David Hill" wrote in message
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What ever you do DON'T burn the bits you cut off, flower arrangers would
love to get their hands on them, Try a local florist or two.

OK. I will ask around.

Franz