The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively. I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

(And we had artichokes in the garden from - um - 1944.)

You must be thinking of
globe artichokes,

That would seem more likely :-)
Do pheasants like thistle seed?

I don't know, but they eat seeds of many sorts: they're omnivorous like
chickens. globe artichoke seeds are a bit bigger than ordinary thistle
seeds too.

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The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively. I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

(And we had artichokes in the garden from - um - 1944.)

You must be thinking of
globe artichokes,

That would seem more likely :-)
Do pheasants like thistle seed?

I don't know, but they eat seeds of many sorts: they're omnivorous like
chickens. globe artichoke seeds are a bit bigger than ordinary thistle
seeds too.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Stuart Baldwin wrote in message . ..


Does anyone have any suggestions for easier ways of preparing salsify?

I wear rubber gloves to peel them when raw, in a sink full of water.
Add vinegar or lemon juice to the water to stop them discolouring -
they go brown really fast.
The gloves get pretty sticky for a bit, but it's not as painful a
process as it sounds.
Bon apps!
Katharine

Jaques d'Alltrades wrote or quoted:
from Tim Tyler contains these words:

Picture of Jerusalem artichoke in flower:

http://entm29.entm.purdue.edu/acorn/...sp?flowerID=68

I think we are talking about a different species.

What's in the picture is nothing like the artichokes I have grown for
more than fifty years, on and off.

For a start, mine have much larger leaves and grow to a height of about
ten feet.

The famlily tree in the area of artichokes looks something like:

Asteroideae
Heliantheae
Helianthus annuus (common sunflower)
Helianthus tuberosus (jerusalem artichoke)
Carduoideae
Cardueae
Cynara scolymus (globe artichoke)
Cynara cardunculus (wild artichoke)
Arctium lappa (great burdock)
Carthamus tinctorius (safflower)

- http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

As you can see, the Jerusalem artichoke is more closely related
to the common sunflower than it is to other culinary artichokes -
and the root - rather than the bud - is the part commonly consumed.
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The message
from Tim Tyler contains these words:

The famlily tree in the area of artichokes looks something like:

Asteroideae
Heliantheae
Helianthus annuus (common sunflower)
Helianthus tuberosus (jerusalem artichoke)
Carduoideae
Cardueae
Cynara scolymus (globe artichoke)
Cynara cardunculus (wild artichoke)
Arctium lappa (great burdock)
Carthamus tinctorius (safflower)

- http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

As you can see, the Jerusalem artichoke is more closely related
to the common sunflower than it is to other culinary artichokes -

Hence its name Jerusalem - from the Italian for sunflower: girasole.

and the root - rather than the bud - is the part commonly consumed.

But not just before mixing in polite company.....

I had self-set safflowers growing with the common sunflower (also
self-set, but re-arranged as seedlings) on account of scattering the
crud from the cockatiel's tray on that bed.

--
Rusty
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The message
from Tim Tyler contains these words:

The famlily tree in the area of artichokes looks something like:

Asteroideae
Heliantheae
Helianthus annuus (common sunflower)
Helianthus tuberosus (jerusalem artichoke)
Carduoideae
Cardueae
Cynara scolymus (globe artichoke)
Cynara cardunculus (wild artichoke)
Arctium lappa (great burdock)
Carthamus tinctorius (safflower)

- http://sprouting.org/taxonomy/plants/

As you can see, the Jerusalem artichoke is more closely related
to the common sunflower than it is to other culinary artichokes -

Hence its name Jerusalem - from the Italian for sunflower: girasole.

and the root - rather than the bud - is the part commonly consumed.

But not just before mixing in polite company.....

I had self-set safflowers growing with the common sunflower (also
self-set, but re-arranged as seedlings) on account of scattering the
crud from the cockatiel's tray on that bed.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm

Hello All

In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


I think may be we ought to start an Artichoke thread, however my Jerusalem
Artichokes flower every year. I have had them for about twenty years, and
they are a straion that was introduced by Thompson & Morgan, with the
specific claim that they flowered well.

John

--
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18 Wentworth Close Hadleigh IPSWICH IP7 5SA England
Tel No 01473 827126 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jrye/index.html
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Hello All

In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


I think may be we ought to start an Artichoke thread, however my Jerusalem
Artichokes flower every year. I have had them for about twenty years, and
they are a straion that was introduced by Thompson & Morgan, with the
specific claim that they flowered well.

John

--
EurIng J Rye CEng FIEE Electrical Engineering Consultant
18 Wentworth Close Hadleigh IPSWICH IP7 5SA England
Tel No 01473 827126 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jrye/index.html
--- On Line using an Acorn StrongArm RiscPC ---

Hello All

In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


I think may be we ought to start an Artichoke thread, however my Jerusalem
Artichokes flower every year. I have had them for about twenty years, and
they are a straion that was introduced by Thompson & Morgan, with the
specific claim that they flowered well.

John

--
EurIng J Rye CEng FIEE Electrical Engineering Consultant
18 Wentworth Close Hadleigh IPSWICH IP7 5SA England
Tel No 01473 827126 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jrye/index.html
--- On Line using an Acorn StrongArm RiscPC ---

Hello All

In article ,
Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes
The message
from Kay Easton contains these words:

Jerusalem artichoke neither flowers nor seeds.

I think you what you mean is that it does do both, but not in the UK ;-)
It will flower in the UK in a very good summer, but I'm not aware of it
maturing seed in the UK.

Not according to a book I read - can't remember which. It said that they
reproduced entirely vegetatively.

In that case, you're not talking about jerusalem artichokes. Other books
say they don't flower in the UK, or they flower only rarely in the UK.
And the 'jerusalem' is thought to be a corruption of 'girasole'
referring to the habit of the *flowers* of turning to the sun.

I've grown them for years, and never
seen flowers on artichokes - not even last year, when they grew quite as
high as an heffalump's eye and I watered them all the year too.

I haven't grown them as long as you, but have grown them off and on
since about 1960, and have seen flowers once - the year before last, or
maybe the one before that.


I think may be we ought to start an Artichoke thread, however my Jerusalem
Artichokes flower every year. I have had them for about twenty years, and
they are a straion that was introduced by Thompson & Morgan, with the
specific claim that they flowered well.

John

--
EurIng J Rye CEng FIEE Electrical Engineering Consultant
18 Wentworth Close Hadleigh IPSWICH IP7 5SA England
Tel No 01473 827126 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jrye/index.html
--- On Line using an Acorn StrongArm RiscPC ---