Hi

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone in this newsgroup might be able to
help me.

I have two gardens on my property, the back garden is fenced, that garden isn't
the problem. The front garden, however, is unfenced as I live in council
terraced property and the grass is open and we are not allowed to fence that
part off (some tenants have bought their property and fenced off their part of
the front garden, whilst others like me cannot).

I have lived here for nearly a year now, and at first was worried about the
possibility of "unwanted presents" being left on the open grass, but until
recently I've had no problem. Now, all of a sudden a dog has started using the
front garden as a toilet. I don't know what dog it is, the mess is there on a
morning when I get up. None of the neighbours nearby have dogs, so I can't even
pinpoint a culprit. The mess appears to just be on the lawn outside my front
garden and not on any of the (unfenced) gardens nearby! The houses on both
sides of me do not have fencing either and their gardens are untouched...

I've bought some of that scoot stuff, but it's not seemingly working, probably
due to rain we've had recently. At a previous property I tried that crystal
"keep off" or "get off" gear and that never really worked back then.

The neighbours on either side haven't seen any dog doing it's business either,
and obviously they are worried too that the dog will start fouling their grass
too (each patch of garden is seperated by a path that leads to the street). we
all have young children and can't take the risk of infections etc.

Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can do before this problem gets out
of hand? Also, why would a dog suddenly turn up and start messing like that
anyway? I hate the sight of the mess too, and the ground is so wet I don't want
to scoop up the large (and they are large) deposits that are being left.
Sensors etc are impractible for this area.

Thanks

Robbie


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Robbie8/1/04 2:30

Hi

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone in this newsgroup might be able
to
help me.

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I suggest you contact the council, explain the problem and ask for
permission to put up a fence. If neighbours who have bought have done so,
they can hardly claim that you're spoiling uniformity in some way.
--

Sacha
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EMOVE (Robbie) wrote in
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I have two gardens on my property, the back garden is fenced, that
garden isn't the problem. The front garden, however, is unfenced as I
live in council terraced property and the grass is open and we are not
allowed to fence that part off (some tenants have bought their
property and fenced off their part of the front garden, whilst others
like me cannot).

Are you allowed to plant things? I once lived on an estate where front
fences were forbidden, but 'gardening' was allowed.

Everyone just put in hedges or shrub borders instead.

Alternatively, dogs do learn. A couple of them used to break into my
garden here and leave deposits (annoying, but tolerable as I have lots of
space) and terrorise my rabbits (not tolerable). They swiftly decided I
was too scary to mess with - and departed never to return.

Not ideal unless you are very confident with dogs though. Water pistol
ambush from upstairs window, perhaps?

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Robbie wrote:

Why would a dog suddenly turn up and start messing like that anyway?

Once a spot has been fouled, it is more likely to be fouled again
because to a dog it smells like the sort of place where that sort of
thing is done.
--
Nick Wagg

"Robbie" wrote in message
...
Hi

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone in this newsgroup might be
able to
help me.

I have two gardens on my property, the back garden is fenced, that garden
isn't
the problem. The front garden, however, is unfenced as I live in council
terraced property and the grass is open and we are not allowed to fence
that
part off (some tenants have bought their property and fenced off their
part of
the front garden, whilst others like me cannot).

Put your fence up. Don't even bother asking. Other houses have them. what
are they going to do, come round and shoot you?

Steve

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"Robbie" wrote in message
...
Hi

front garden as a toilet. I don't know what dog it is, the mess is there
on a
morning when I get up. None of the neighbours nearby have dogs, so I can't
even
pinpoint a culprit. The mess appears to just be on the lawn outside my
front


Try setting your alarm clock early one morning and getting up to see who's
doing it. Then ask them to stop. Unless it's a stray, then try spraying it
with the hosepipe.

--
Martin & Anna Sykes
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http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~sykesm

If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into the ground in the area being fouled.

In article , Nick Wagg says...

Once a spot has been fouled, it is more likely to be fouled again
because to a dog it smells like the sort of place where that sort of
thing is done.

I have heard it said, but cannot vouch for it, that if you use a watering can
and cover the fouled area with a solution of washing powder dogs are unlikely to
re-foul there. I don't know what effect this may have on your grass though.

-micko

Deterrents such as Renardine or often as objectionable to an occupier as to
an invading dog.
My granny (pre 1940) used to put cayenne pepper (chili powder) down to
deterr cats. Give it a try-dogs have a keenly developed sense of smell. The
powder is dear at a supermarket but can be bought more cheaply at ethnic or
specialist spice stores.
"Martin Bates" wrote in message
s.com...
If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into
the ground in the area being fouled.
--
Martin Bates
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Micko8/1/04 4:55
In article , Nick Wagg says...

Once a spot has been fouled, it is more likely to be fouled again
because to a dog it smells like the sort of place where that sort of
thing is done.

I have heard it said, but cannot vouch for it, that if you use a watering can
and cover the fouled area with a solution of washing powder dogs are unlikely
to
re-foul there. I don't know what effect this may have on your grass though.

-micko

Try pepper - lots of it. Re-apply after rain. I had one dog who was a
devil to train and used to pee indoors. We put pepper down in his
'favourite' places and it soon cured that little bit of laziness!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the 'x' to email me)

Deterrents such as Renardine or often as objectionable to an occupier as to
an invading dog.
My granny (pre 1940) used to put cayenne pepper (chili powder) down to
deterr cats. Give it a try-dogs have a keenly developed sense of smell. The
powder is dear at a supermarket but can be bought more cheaply at ethnic or
specialist spice stores.
"Martin Bates" wrote in message
s.com...
If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into
the ground in the area being fouled.
--
Martin Bates
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk

Deterrents such as Renardine or often as objectionable to an occupier as to
an invading dog.
My granny (pre 1940) used to put cayenne pepper (chili powder) down to
deterr cats. Give it a try-dogs have a keenly developed sense of smell. The
powder is dear at a supermarket but can be bought more cheaply at ethnic or
specialist spice stores.
"Martin Bates" wrote in message
s.com...
If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into
the ground in the area being fouled.
--
Martin Bates
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk

Deterrents such as Renardine or often as objectionable to an occupier as to
an invading dog.
My granny (pre 1940) used to put cayenne pepper (chili powder) down to
deterr cats. Give it a try-dogs have a keenly developed sense of smell. The
powder is dear at a supermarket but can be bought more cheaply at ethnic or
specialist spice stores.
"Martin Bates" wrote in message
s.com...
If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into
the ground in the area being fouled.
--
Martin Bates
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk

Deterrents such as Renardine or often as objectionable to an occupier as to
an invading dog.
My granny (pre 1940) used to put cayenne pepper (chili powder) down to
deterr cats. Give it a try-dogs have a keenly developed sense of smell. The
powder is dear at a supermarket but can be bought more cheaply at ethnic or
specialist spice stores.
"Martin Bates" wrote in message
s.com...
If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into
the ground in the area being fouled.
--
Martin Bates
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk

Deterrents such as Renardine or often as objectionable to an occupier as to
an invading dog.
My granny (pre 1940) used to put cayenne pepper (chili powder) down to
deterr cats. Give it a try-dogs have a keenly developed sense of smell. The
powder is dear at a supermarket but can be bought more cheaply at ethnic or
specialist spice stores.
"Martin Bates" wrote in message
s.com...
If you can get some cuttings of holly, you could try poking these into
the ground in the area being fouled.
--
Martin Bates
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk