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from "Mike" contains these words:

2) we have only had it for a couple of years, but it is as rusty as hell
with part of the turnover on the rim rusting to such a degree that it is
falling off already. There was no primer, undercoat or any form of
preservative on it, just a quick spray of nice green paint :-)) onto bare
metal :-((

Not sure where, but you can get replacement moulded hard rubber skips to
bolt on.

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Mike" contains these words:

2) we have only had it for a couple of years, but it is as rusty as hell
with part of the turnover on the rim rusting to such a degree that it is
falling off already. There was no primer, undercoat or any form of
preservative on it, just a quick spray of nice green paint :-)) onto
bare
metal :-((

Not sure where, but you can get replacement moulded hard rubber skips to
bolt on.

That seems like a good idea, especially as where I got it from has now been
taken over and the owner retired. Even though I am still in contact with the
previous owner, that is of no use as I know where the barrow came from
:-(( (Bit of bad advertising that, sticking their "Walsall Wheelbarrow
Company" sticker on it!! That soon peeled off with the 'only' coat of paint
and the rust:-(( I refer that to "Ratner" advertising )

Mike

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Mike" contains these words:

2) we have only had it for a couple of years, but it is as rusty as hell
with part of the turnover on the rim rusting to such a degree that it is
falling off already. There was no primer, undercoat or any form of
preservative on it, just a quick spray of nice green paint :-)) onto
bare
metal :-((

Not sure where, but you can get replacement moulded hard rubber skips to
bolt on.

That seems like a good idea, especially as where I got it from has now been
taken over and the owner retired. Even though I am still in contact with the
previous owner, that is of no use as I know where the barrow came from
:-(( (Bit of bad advertising that, sticking their "Walsall Wheelbarrow
Company" sticker on it!! That soon peeled off with the 'only' coat of paint
and the rust:-(( I refer that to "Ratner" advertising )

Mike

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Mike" contains these words:

2) we have only had it for a couple of years, but it is as rusty as hell
with part of the turnover on the rim rusting to such a degree that it is
falling off already. There was no primer, undercoat or any form of
preservative on it, just a quick spray of nice green paint :-)) onto
bare
metal :-((

Not sure where, but you can get replacement moulded hard rubber skips to
bolt on.

That seems like a good idea, especially as where I got it from has now been
taken over and the owner retired. Even though I am still in contact with the
previous owner, that is of no use as I know where the barrow came from
:-(( (Bit of bad advertising that, sticking their "Walsall Wheelbarrow
Company" sticker on it!! That soon peeled off with the 'only' coat of paint
and the rust:-(( I refer that to "Ratner" advertising )

Mike

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Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Mike" contains these words:

2) we have only had it for a couple of years, but it is as rusty as hell
with part of the turnover on the rim rusting to such a degree that it is
falling off already. There was no primer, undercoat or any form of
preservative on it, just a quick spray of nice green paint :-)) onto
bare
metal :-((

Not sure where, but you can get replacement moulded hard rubber skips to
bolt on.

That seems like a good idea, especially as where I got it from has now been
taken over and the owner retired. Even though I am still in contact with the
previous owner, that is of no use as I know where the barrow came from
:-(( (Bit of bad advertising that, sticking their "Walsall Wheelbarrow
Company" sticker on it!! That soon peeled off with the 'only' coat of paint
and the rust:-(( I refer that to "Ratner" advertising )

Mike

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Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th

"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "Mike" contains these words:

2) we have only had it for a couple of years, but it is as rusty as hell
with part of the turnover on the rim rusting to such a degree that it is
falling off already. There was no primer, undercoat or any form of
preservative on it, just a quick spray of nice green paint :-)) onto
bare
metal :-((

Not sure where, but you can get replacement moulded hard rubber skips to
bolt on.

That seems like a good idea, especially as where I got it from has now been
taken over and the owner retired. Even though I am still in contact with the
previous owner, that is of no use as I know where the barrow came from
:-(( (Bit of bad advertising that, sticking their "Walsall Wheelbarrow
Company" sticker on it!! That soon peeled off with the 'only' coat of paint
and the rust:-(( I refer that to "Ratner" advertising )

Mike

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H.M.S.Newfoundland Association Reunion Hayling Island April 23rd - 26th
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th

s.cieraad wrote:

I hope this is posted to the right group, it was the closest thing I
could find that was related...

I am a Dutch student studying Industrial Design & Engineering at
Fontys University, The Netherlands, and am doing some research into
the usage of wheelbarrows or their substitutes. I have to develop a
new wheelbarrow to graduate so I would like to hear about
anyone’s experiences, hints, remarks, hints, good or bad things
about wheelbarrows. Please help me and e-mailing it to me, I would be
extremely grateful

I am only a small lady and the biggest problem I have is that when I
use most wheel barrows and they are fully laden and heavy, I am unable
to push them due to the fact that if my arms are straight, the thing is
not high up enough for the back rests to clear the ground. I have to use
a barrow with my arms bent to lift the thing higher. They should make
strong large wheelbarrows for little peeps like me.

s.cieraad wrote:

I hope this is posted to the right group, it was the closest thing I
could find that was related...

I am a Dutch student studying Industrial Design & Engineering at
Fontys University, The Netherlands, and am doing some research into
the usage of wheelbarrows or their substitutes. I have to develop a
new wheelbarrow to graduate so I would like to hear about
anyone’s experiences, hints, remarks, hints, good or bad things
about wheelbarrows. Please help me and e-mailing it to me, I would be
extremely grateful

I am only a small lady and the biggest problem I have is that when I
use most wheel barrows and they are fully laden and heavy, I am unable
to push them due to the fact that if my arms are straight, the thing is
not high up enough for the back rests to clear the ground. I have to use
a barrow with my arms bent to lift the thing higher. They should make
strong large wheelbarrows for little peeps like me.

I am only a small lady and the biggest problem I have is that when I
use most wheel barrows and they are fully laden and heavy, I am unable
to push them due to the fact that if my arms are straight, the thing is
not high up enough for the back rests to clear the ground. I have to use
a barrow with my arms bent to lift the thing higher. They should make
strong large wheelbarrows for little peeps like me.

It would help people such as yourself, it the load was more over the wheel.
I have just looked at my wheel barrow and the centre of the wheel is under
the centre of the sloping front, therefore none of the load is on the wheel,
well, relatively little. With more over the wheel and the handles made lower
to the ground in the resting position, then tall or short alike could use
the barrow with arms straight.

With this method of design, when carrying a wet load, such as a barrow full
of redimix, the load would not 'slurp' out of the front, the front would be
higher and the back brought up to the level.

Rocket science? "I think not"

Mike
..

"Mike" wrote in message
...
It would help people such as yourself, it the load was more over the
wheel.
I have just looked at my wheel barrow and the centre of the wheel is under
the centre of the sloping front, therefore none of the load is on the
wheel,
well, relatively little. With more over the wheel and the handles made
lower
to the ground in the resting position, then tall or short alike could use
the barrow with arms straight.

With this method of design, when carrying a wet load, such as a barrow
full
of redimix, the load would not 'slurp' out of the front, the front would
be
higher and the back brought up to the level.

Unfortunately, putting the wheel under the load in the case of a wheelbarrow
creates more problems than it solves. The load then becomes that much
higher, meaning you have to shovel your contents higher, unless a very small
wheel is used, in which case it tends to bog in on wet ground.

Also, it puts the C of G much higher, which results in a tendency to topple
over sideways, and the pusher is forced to try to counteract it, which puts
much strain on the arms.

The design of the wheelbarrow is obviously not perfect, but it is one of
those things which has evolved as far as is practical. Various improvements
have been tried, but AFAIK none have seriously improved the breed. I believe
it has reached the optimum compromise. I wish the OP every success in
his/her endeavours, but I think the wheelbarrow "as is" is going to be the
norm for the foreseeable future.

As regards the ballbarrow, I read a while ago that Dyson was *allegedly*
levered out of his own company by his partner(s) of the time, and lost the
rights to his own invention.

Steve

Unfortunately, putting the wheel under the load in the case of a
wheelbarrow
creates more problems than it solves. The load then becomes that much
higher, meaning you have to shovel your contents higher, unless a very
small
wheel is used, in which case it tends to bog in on wet ground.

Also, it puts the C of G much higher, which results in a tendency to
topple
over sideways, and the pusher is forced to try to counteract it, which
puts
much strain on the arms.

The design of the wheelbarrow is obviously not perfect, but it is one of
those things which has evolved as far as is practical. Various
improvements
have been tried, but AFAIK none have seriously improved the breed. I
believe
it has reached the optimum compromise. I wish the OP every success in
his/her endeavours, but I think the wheelbarrow "as is" is going to be the
norm for the foreseeable future.





So what you are saying is, that I 'haven't' redesigned the wheel . . . . .
.. .
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
barrow ;-) ?

Mike

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H.M.S.Newfoundland Association Reunion Hayling Island April 23rd - 26th
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th

"Mike" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately, putting the wheel under the load in the case of a
wheelbarrow
creates more problems than it solves. The load then becomes that much
higher, meaning you have to shovel your contents higher, unless a very
small
wheel is used, in which case it tends to bog in on wet ground.

Also, it puts the C of G much higher, which results in a tendency to
topple
over sideways, and the pusher is forced to try to counteract it, which
puts
much strain on the arms.

The design of the wheelbarrow is obviously not perfect, but it is one of
those things which has evolved as far as is practical. Various
improvements
have been tried, but AFAIK none have seriously improved the breed. I
believe
it has reached the optimum compromise. I wish the OP every success in
his/her endeavours, but I think the wheelbarrow "as is" is going to be
the
norm for the foreseeable future.





So what you are saying is, that I 'haven't' redesigned the wheel . . . .
..
. .
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
barrow ;-) ?

Sadly not, but don't stop trying. You never know what you might get.
Rudolph Diesel's original intention was to develop an engine that would use
as fuel the enormous amounts of waste coal dust that were lying around on
the Ruhr. It didn't work, but look what we got instead.

Mind you, he blew his workshop to bits twice on the way, so be careful :-))

Steve

"Mike" wrote in message
...
It would help people such as yourself, it the load was more over the
wheel.
I have just looked at my wheel barrow and the centre of the wheel is under
the centre of the sloping front, therefore none of the load is on the
wheel,
well, relatively little. With more over the wheel and the handles made
lower
to the ground in the resting position, then tall or short alike could use
the barrow with arms straight.

With this method of design, when carrying a wet load, such as a barrow
full
of redimix, the load would not 'slurp' out of the front, the front would
be
higher and the back brought up to the level.

Unfortunately, putting the wheel under the load in the case of a wheelbarrow
creates more problems than it solves. The load then becomes that much
higher, meaning you have to shovel your contents higher, unless a very small
wheel is used, in which case it tends to bog in on wet ground.

Also, it puts the C of G much higher, which results in a tendency to topple
over sideways, and the pusher is forced to try to counteract it, which puts
much strain on the arms.

The design of the wheelbarrow is obviously not perfect, but it is one of
those things which has evolved as far as is practical. Various improvements
have been tried, but AFAIK none have seriously improved the breed. I believe
it has reached the optimum compromise. I wish the OP every success in
his/her endeavours, but I think the wheelbarrow "as is" is going to be the
norm for the foreseeable future.

As regards the ballbarrow, I read a while ago that Dyson was *allegedly*
levered out of his own company by his partner(s) of the time, and lost the
rights to his own invention.

Steve

Unfortunately, putting the wheel under the load in the case of a
wheelbarrow
creates more problems than it solves. The load then becomes that much
higher, meaning you have to shovel your contents higher, unless a very
small
wheel is used, in which case it tends to bog in on wet ground.

Also, it puts the C of G much higher, which results in a tendency to
topple
over sideways, and the pusher is forced to try to counteract it, which
puts
much strain on the arms.

The design of the wheelbarrow is obviously not perfect, but it is one of
those things which has evolved as far as is practical. Various
improvements
have been tried, but AFAIK none have seriously improved the breed. I
believe
it has reached the optimum compromise. I wish the OP every success in
his/her endeavours, but I think the wheelbarrow "as is" is going to be the
norm for the foreseeable future.





So what you are saying is, that I 'haven't' redesigned the wheel . . . . .
.. .
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
..
barrow ;-) ?

Mike

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H.M.S.Newfoundland Association Reunion Hayling Island April 23rd - 26th
Royal Naval Reunion Eastbourne May 7th - 10th
H.M.S.Collingwood Association Reunion Bracklesham Bay May 21st - 24th

"Mike" wrote in message
...
It would help people such as yourself, it the load was more over the
wheel.
I have just looked at my wheel barrow and the centre of the wheel is under
the centre of the sloping front, therefore none of the load is on the
wheel,
well, relatively little. With more over the wheel and the handles made
lower
to the ground in the resting position, then tall or short alike could use
the barrow with arms straight.

With this method of design, when carrying a wet load, such as a barrow
full
of redimix, the load would not 'slurp' out of the front, the front would
be
higher and the back brought up to the level.

Unfortunately, putting the wheel under the load in the case of a wheelbarrow
creates more problems than it solves. The load then becomes that much
higher, meaning you have to shovel your contents higher, unless a very small
wheel is used, in which case it tends to bog in on wet ground.

Also, it puts the C of G much higher, which results in a tendency to topple
over sideways, and the pusher is forced to try to counteract it, which puts
much strain on the arms.

The design of the wheelbarrow is obviously not perfect, but it is one of
those things which has evolved as far as is practical. Various improvements
have been tried, but AFAIK none have seriously improved the breed. I believe
it has reached the optimum compromise. I wish the OP every success in
his/her endeavours, but I think the wheelbarrow "as is" is going to be the
norm for the foreseeable future.

As regards the ballbarrow, I read a while ago that Dyson was *allegedly*
levered out of his own company by his partner(s) of the time, and lost the
rights to his own invention.

Steve