In article , Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades writes:
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| It is a dogwood and I am fairly sure that it is this one.
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| That's what i thought at first, but a close look suggested Rubus.

If so, almost certainly Rubus phoenicolasius.

I think we're committed to leaving the plants in situ now, if only to
answer the question. Give it a couple of weeks and there should be some
leaves fully out, which might give more clues...

James

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC), James Fidell said:

[snip]
] The stems definitely look smooth to me. What doesn't seem right for
] a dogwood is that the ones I've seen have stems that fork, rather like
] an enormous pepper plant. These don't appear have side-shoots at all.
]
]

James,

My Cornus Alba does indeed fork, but not the first year. It puts out long
straight stems, then the ones I don't lop off fork.

Anyway the OP will know if it's a dogwood soon enough, when the
flowers come in...

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC), James Fidell said:

[snip]
] The stems definitely look smooth to me. What doesn't seem right for
] a dogwood is that the ones I've seen have stems that fork, rather like
] an enormous pepper plant. These don't appear have side-shoots at all.
]
]

James,

My Cornus Alba does indeed fork, but not the first year. It puts out long
straight stems, then the ones I don't lop off fork.

Anyway the OP will know if it's a dogwood soon enough, when the
flowers come in...

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC), James Fidell said:

[snip]
] The stems definitely look smooth to me. What doesn't seem right for
] a dogwood is that the ones I've seen have stems that fork, rather like
] an enormous pepper plant. These don't appear have side-shoots at all.
]
]

James,

My Cornus Alba does indeed fork, but not the first year. It puts out long
straight stems, then the ones I don't lop off fork.

Anyway the OP will know if it's a dogwood soon enough, when the
flowers come in...

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC), James Fidell said:

[snip]
] The stems definitely look smooth to me. What doesn't seem right for
] a dogwood is that the ones I've seen have stems that fork, rather like
] an enormous pepper plant. These don't appear have side-shoots at all.
]
]

James,

My Cornus Alba does indeed fork, but not the first year. It puts out long
straight stems, then the ones I don't lop off fork.

Anyway the OP will know if it's a dogwood soon enough, when the
flowers come in...

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:42:02 +0000 (UTC), James Fidell said:

[snip]
] The stems definitely look smooth to me. What doesn't seem right for
] a dogwood is that the ones I've seen have stems that fork, rather like
] an enormous pepper plant. These don't appear have side-shoots at all.
]
]

James,

My Cornus Alba does indeed fork, but not the first year. It puts out long
straight stems, then the ones I don't lop off fork.

Anyway the OP will know if it's a dogwood soon enough, when the
flowers come in...

-E
--
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

In article , Nick Maclaren
writes

In article , Jaques d'Alltrades
writes:
| The message
| from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:
|
| It is a dogwood and I am fairly sure that it is this one.
|
| http://www.bucknur.com/acatalog/product_10177.html
|
| That's what i thought at first, but a close look suggested Rubus.

If so, almost certainly Rubus phoenicolasius.

No - some the hybrid berries (tay, sun, logan) have red stems, and have
larger fruit than wineberry, so I'd expect it to be one of these.
Except, of course, it isn't spiny.


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