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Old 29-03-2004, 01:42 AM
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Leylandii? Needles?

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Franz



Well, I dunno what to call them, they're not really leaves

either, sort of
flattened segmented branching sprays.


Yes. You are now talking about cypress leaves.

Anyway, whatever you call them,
it's a Leylandii, I've got a whole hedge of it too so it's

not a case of
mistaken identity. That's it then, it's coming down!

cheers,

Andy

PS; Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's at

least 16" across
at the base.


At that size, it might be worth while if you can find a tree
surgeon to come and demolish the stump in situ with a root
grinder.

Or better still, why do you not prune the dead tree to a
sensible shape and use it as a support for growing a
climber?
Rose, clematis, Russian vine....

Franz


That's on the list of possibilities: last year, half in anticipation
I planted a Zepherine Drouhin climbing rose, a Jackmanii Superba
clematis and a Lonicera Henryi at the base. I'd prefer a clean
slate but discretion is the better part of valour, so maybe I'd
best make the trunk into a 'feature'!.

ndy


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Old 29-03-2004, 01:45 AM
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I have an inherited Leylandii planted near my house, about

30 feet tall.
Last year following the dry weather and my modification of

water run-off
from the road, it went brown. Ever since it has been

littering the path
below
with dead needles,


Leylandii? Needles?


Shhhh! It's got a - um - 'habit'.

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Old 29-03-2004, 01:51 AM
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Leylandii? Needles?

[snip]

Franz



Well, I dunno what to call them, they're not really leaves

either, sort of
flattened segmented branching sprays.


Yes. You are now talking about cypress leaves.

Anyway, whatever you call them,
it's a Leylandii, I've got a whole hedge of it too so it's

not a case of
mistaken identity. That's it then, it's coming down!

cheers,

Andy

PS; Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's at

least 16" across
at the base.


At that size, it might be worth while if you can find a tree
surgeon to come and demolish the stump in situ with a root
grinder.

Or better still, why do you not prune the dead tree to a
sensible shape and use it as a support for growing a
climber?
Rose, clematis, Russian vine....

Franz


That's on the list of possibilities: last year, half in anticipation
I planted a Zepherine Drouhin climbing rose, a Jackmanii Superba
clematis and a Lonicera Henryi at the base. I'd prefer a clean
slate but discretion is the better part of valour, so maybe I'd
best make the trunk into a 'feature'!.

ndy


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Old 29-03-2004, 04:15 AM
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Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over. It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump out.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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from "andrewpreece" contains these words:

Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over. It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump out.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/


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Old 29-03-2004, 04:34 AM
Jaques d'Alltrades
 
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The message
from "andrewpreece" contains these words:

Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over. It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump out.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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Old 30-03-2004, 11:49 AM
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Leylandii? Needles?

[snip]

Franz



Well, I dunno what to call them, they're not really

leaves
either, sort of
flattened segmented branching sprays.


Yes. You are now talking about cypress leaves.

Anyway, whatever you call them,
it's a Leylandii, I've got a whole hedge of it too so

it's
not a case of
mistaken identity. That's it then, it's coming down!

cheers,

Andy

PS; Getting the triple stump out will be a killer,

it's at
least 16" across
at the base.


At that size, it might be worth while if you can find a

tree
surgeon to come and demolish the stump in situ with a

root
grinder.

Or better still, why do you not prune the dead tree to a
sensible shape and use it as a support for growing a
climber?
Rose, clematis, Russian vine....

Franz


That's on the list of possibilities: last year, half in

anticipation
I planted a Zepherine Drouhin climbing rose, a Jackmanii

Superba
clematis and a Lonicera Henryi at the base. I'd prefer a

clean
slate but discretion is the better part of valour, so

maybe I'd
best make the trunk into a 'feature'!.


I think that is a good decision.
But you will have to do a bit of fertilising of the soil,
since the Leylandii will have emptied the cupboard overthe
years.

Franz

Franz



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Old 30-03-2004, 01:36 PM
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Leylandii? Needles?

[snip]

Franz



Well, I dunno what to call them, they're not really

leaves
either, sort of
flattened segmented branching sprays.


Yes. You are now talking about cypress leaves.

Anyway, whatever you call them,
it's a Leylandii, I've got a whole hedge of it too so

it's
not a case of
mistaken identity. That's it then, it's coming down!

cheers,

Andy

PS; Getting the triple stump out will be a killer,

it's at
least 16" across
at the base.


At that size, it might be worth while if you can find a

tree
surgeon to come and demolish the stump in situ with a

root
grinder.

Or better still, why do you not prune the dead tree to a
sensible shape and use it as a support for growing a
climber?
Rose, clematis, Russian vine....

Franz


That's on the list of possibilities: last year, half in

anticipation
I planted a Zepherine Drouhin climbing rose, a Jackmanii

Superba
clematis and a Lonicera Henryi at the base. I'd prefer a

clean
slate but discretion is the better part of valour, so

maybe I'd
best make the trunk into a 'feature'!.


I think that is a good decision.
But you will have to do a bit of fertilising of the soil,
since the Leylandii will have emptied the cupboard overthe
years.

Franz

Franz



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Old 30-03-2004, 01:45 PM
Franz Heymann
 
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"Franz Heymann" wrote

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"Franz Heymann"

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Leylandii? Needles?

[snip]

Franz



Well, I dunno what to call them, they're not really

leaves
either, sort of
flattened segmented branching sprays.


Yes. You are now talking about cypress leaves.

Anyway, whatever you call them,
it's a Leylandii, I've got a whole hedge of it too so

it's
not a case of
mistaken identity. That's it then, it's coming down!

cheers,

Andy

PS; Getting the triple stump out will be a killer,

it's at
least 16" across
at the base.


At that size, it might be worth while if you can find a

tree
surgeon to come and demolish the stump in situ with a

root
grinder.

Or better still, why do you not prune the dead tree to a
sensible shape and use it as a support for growing a
climber?
Rose, clematis, Russian vine....

Franz


That's on the list of possibilities: last year, half in

anticipation
I planted a Zepherine Drouhin climbing rose, a Jackmanii

Superba
clematis and a Lonicera Henryi at the base. I'd prefer a

clean
slate but discretion is the better part of valour, so

maybe I'd
best make the trunk into a 'feature'!.


I think that is a good decision.
But you will have to do a bit of fertilising of the soil,
since the Leylandii will have emptied the cupboard overthe
years.

Franz

Franz





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Old 31-03-2004, 04:10 AM
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
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The message
from "andrewpreece" contains these words:

Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over. It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump out.


Alas it isn't really possible to dig around it and lever it out: the rear of
the tree
has a low curved stone wall not 18" from it, and the front has a wooden
palisade
retaining a raised bed in which the tree sits, at a distance of only 30".

My only option, as another post states, is to drill the stump and try and
dissolve it
or make it a feature. Anyway, the top 15 foot is down now, leaving a 9' high
trunk,
5" across at the top. It looks a bit odd: I've concluded I need to put
something on
the top to cap it off. My thoughts a-

Weathervane
Hanging basket ( could water it with a hose )
Gilded finial of some sort ( bit pretentious )
Dovecot ( even more pretentious, and I don't keep doves )

Still, interesting thinking about the possibilities!

Andy.


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Anyway, the top 15 foot is down now, leaving a 9' high
trunk,
5" across at the top. It looks a bit odd: I've concluded I need to put
something on
the top to cap it off. My thoughts a-


Weathervane
Hanging basket ( could water it with a hose )
Gilded finial of some sort ( bit pretentious )
Dovecot ( even more pretentious, and I don't keep doves )


Still, interesting thinking about the possibilities!


Somewhere to flaunt your coat of arms
Support for long wire ærial for SWL
Prominent position for a scarecrow
Construct an horizontal with support and make a festive gallows
Grow ivy up it to give the sparrows somewhere to nest
Carve it into a totem
Nail a board to the top and have a very high profile bird table

HTH

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"andrewpreece" wrote in message
...

"Jaques d'Alltrades"

wrote in message
...
The message
from "andrewpreece"

contains these words:

Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's

at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the

roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you

can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where

the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a

decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and

bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over.

It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump

out.


Alas it isn't really possible to dig around it and lever

it out: the rear of
the tree
has a low curved stone wall not 18" from it, and the front

has a wooden
palisade
retaining a raised bed in which the tree sits, at a

distance of only 30".

My only option, as another post states, is to drill the

stump and try and
dissolve it
or make it a feature. Anyway, the top 15 foot is down now,

leaving a 9' high
trunk,
5" across at the top. It looks a bit odd: I've concluded I

need to put
something on
the top to cap it off. My thoughts a-

Weathervane
Hanging basket ( could water it with a hose )
Gilded finial of some sort ( bit pretentious )
Dovecot ( even more pretentious, and I don't keep doves )

Still, interesting thinking about the possibilities!


Glue some of the branches back and grow a russian vine up
it.

Franz


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"andrewpreece" wrote in message
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"Jaques d'Alltrades"

wrote in message
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The message
from "andrewpreece"

contains these words:

Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's

at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the

roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you

can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where

the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a

decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and

bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over.

It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump

out.


Alas it isn't really possible to dig around it and lever

it out: the rear of
the tree
has a low curved stone wall not 18" from it, and the front

has a wooden
palisade
retaining a raised bed in which the tree sits, at a

distance of only 30".

My only option, as another post states, is to drill the

stump and try and
dissolve it
or make it a feature. Anyway, the top 15 foot is down now,

leaving a 9' high
trunk,
5" across at the top. It looks a bit odd: I've concluded I

need to put
something on
the top to cap it off. My thoughts a-

Weathervane
Hanging basket ( could water it with a hose )
Gilded finial of some sort ( bit pretentious )
Dovecot ( even more pretentious, and I don't keep doves )

Still, interesting thinking about the possibilities!


Glue some of the branches back and grow a russian vine up
it.

Franz


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"andrewpreece" wrote in message
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"Jaques d'Alltrades"

wrote in message
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The message
from "andrewpreece"

contains these words:

Getting the triple stump out will be a killer, it's

at least 16" across
at the base.


*DON'T* cut it down. Dig round it and cut as many of the

roots as you
can find, then (with a rope from near the top if you

can) using the
height of the tree as a lever, work it about, and where

the earth moves
will be more roots to cut. Many of them will cut with a

decent sharp
spade, but you may need a mattock or a trowel and

bowsaw.

When enough roots are severed, pull the whole tree over.

It's so much
easier than cutting it down and then digging the stump

out.


Alas it isn't really possible to dig around it and lever

it out: the rear of
the tree
has a low curved stone wall not 18" from it, and the front

has a wooden
palisade
retaining a raised bed in which the tree sits, at a

distance of only 30".

My only option, as another post states, is to drill the

stump and try and
dissolve it
or make it a feature. Anyway, the top 15 foot is down now,

leaving a 9' high
trunk,
5" across at the top. It looks a bit odd: I've concluded I

need to put
something on
the top to cap it off. My thoughts a-

Weathervane
Hanging basket ( could water it with a hose )
Gilded finial of some sort ( bit pretentious )
Dovecot ( even more pretentious, and I don't keep doves )

Still, interesting thinking about the possibilities!


Glue some of the branches back and grow a russian vine up
it.

Franz


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