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Poisonous plants
This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants:
http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm It runs to 7 pages. ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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Sacha12/4/04 10:11
net.co.uk This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm It runs to 7 pages. ;-) I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 pages! -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Sacha12/4/04 10:11 6.fs net.co.uk This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm It runs to 7 pages. ;-) I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 pages! -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) A lot of these seem to be rated 1 ie non-toxic. How many pages is it if you exclude these? |
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In article , "Neil Jones" writes: | "Sacha" wrote in message | o.uk... | Sacha12/4/04 10:11 | | This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: | | http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm | | It runs to 7 pages. ;-) | | I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 | pages! | | A lot of these seem to be rated 1 ie non-toxic. How many pages is it if | you exclude these? Dunno, but it is sufficiently incomplete that I wouldn't bother with it. Try runner beans, flowering tobacco (nicotiana), bluebell, common laurel and horse chestnut, to name but a few commonly-planted decoratives. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Just how poisonous is an apple tree?
And forget-me-not, and grape hyacinth? Honeysuckle, marigold, peony, privet... Edwin Bath. |
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In article , Edwin Spector
writes Just how poisonous is an apple tree? ISTR the pips contain minute amounts of cyanide ;-) Not enough to do any harm unless you were to eat them in *vast* amounts, but they are in the same family as bitter almonds and cherry laurel. And forget-me-not, and grape hyacinth? Honeysuckle, marigold, peony, privet... Honeysuckle berries and privet berries are both poisonous. Privet has a violent purging effect and can be fatal to children. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm |
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Neil Jones13/4/04 1:02
"Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Sacha12/4/04 10:11 6.fs net.co.uk This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm It runs to 7 pages. ;-) I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 pages! -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) A lot of these seem to be rated 1 ie non-toxic. How many pages is it if you exclude these? I'll leave you to explore that. I went to Google and typed in poisonous plants, with a UK bias, of course. And that was the answer. This means that to some extent, all those plants are toxic in varying degrees. And the question most people ask is "are these plants toxic?" not "will these plants kill my children, poison the dog or merely give us a severe skin reaction?" The RHS Encyclopedia gives some such details but not for all plants. If people want a garden in which they can be certain that no smallest degree of harm can come to anyone in it, they're going to find it problematic. I know someone who nearly died of septicaemia after pricking his finger on a rose thorn that had been sprayed by some nasty chemical. Few people ask if such things will endanger their lives! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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In article , Sacha writes: | | The RHS Encyclopedia gives some such details but not for all plants. If | people want a garden in which they can be certain that no smallest degree of | harm can come to anyone in it, they're going to find it problematic. | I know someone who nearly died of septicaemia after pricking his finger on a | rose thorn that had been sprayed by some nasty chemical. Few people ask if | such things will endanger their lives! I once cut my head on the corner of an ill-placed safety cabinet. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Neil Jones13/4/04 1:02 "Sacha" wrote in message o.uk... Sacha12/4/04 10:11 6.fs net.co.uk This is an alphabetical listing of poisonous plants: http://www.powen.freeserve.co.uk/Ref...ison%20a-m.htm It runs to 7 pages. ;-) I got ahead of myself there - 7 pages is just A to M. A to Z is 12 pages! -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) A lot of these seem to be rated 1 ie non-toxic. How many pages is it if you exclude these? I'll leave you to explore that. How kind. I went to Google and typed in poisonous plants, with a UK bias, of course. And that was the answer. This means that to some extent, all those plants are toxic in varying degrees. My point is that according to the same site, toxicity of 1 means "1. Non-toxic: These plants are not poisonous or there is no known record of toxicity. Exposure to these plants is not expected to cause any symptoms " So the "varying degrees" seem to range from potentially fatal to totally innocuous. And the question most people ask is "are these plants toxic?" not "will these plants kill my children, poison the dog or merely give us a severe skin reaction?" I don't find it helpful to be told that Pachysandra terminalis is a toxic plant, only to find that the it is rated as non-toxic. Maybe it's just me, but if I see a list of poisonous plants, I expect them at least to be poisonous to some degree. The RHS Encyclopedia gives some such details but not for all plants. If people want a garden in which they can be certain that no smallest degree of harm can come to anyone in it, they're going to find it problematic. Clearly such an expectation is misconceived. I know someone who nearly died of septicaemia after pricking his finger on a rose thorn that had been sprayed by some nasty chemical. Few people ask if such things will endanger their lives! So now you seem to be saying that this list is even less useful? |
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Nick Maclaren13/4/04 3:20
In article , Sacha writes: | | The RHS Encyclopedia gives some such details but not for all plants. If | people want a garden in which they can be certain that no smallest degree of | harm can come to anyone in it, they're going to find it problematic. | I know someone who nearly died of septicaemia after pricking his finger on a | rose thorn that had been sprayed by some nasty chemical. Few people ask if | such things will endanger their lives! I once cut my head on the corner of an ill-placed safety cabinet. Regards, Nick Maclaren. Isn't it ROSPA that says 'most accidents happen in the home'? ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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Neil Jones13/4/04 3:25
snip So now you seem to be saying that this list is even less useful? No, Neil. I'm saying that the subject of poisonous plants came up in urg in another thread and that there were varying claims as to the toxicity of ornamental garden plants. So, out of curiosity, I did a very simple Google search to see what would kick up. You have the result. How you use it is up to you. If you wish to know more, then do your own Googling. If you wish to buy a particular plant and want to know its toxicity you now have the link for a site that might help you. I think what you are missing here is the degree of variation possible in the toxicity of plants depending on the size, age, general health etc. of those afflicted by it - maybe. A 1yo child is going to have a much bigger reaction to munching a daffodil bulb than a healthy 25 yo, and so on. Most people are concerned about the effects upon children, IME. For example, two days ago a customer asked me if Helleborus is toxic. New question to me, so I looked it up in the RHS Encyclopedia and the answer was that all parts of it may cause severe discomfort if ingested and the sap might irritate the skin. Now - the customer got an honest answer but after we had briefly discussed the likelihood of a 3 yo child chomping on a Hellebore and that the description did NOT say "deadly to ankle-biters", she decided to go ahead and buy it. Daffodil sap is toxic to some people, Ricinus is deadly to most - there are plenty of grades in between. The *whole point* is that it depends on what the individual means by 'toxic' - skin rash, bellyache, vomiting, or death? Will rue just give you a nasty skin rash or a woman an abortion if she chews the leaves? For that reason, such a list has to be very inclusive. Some people won't plant Oleander or Laburnum in case it poisons someone - children are the usual worry - but few would think twice about planting Hellebores, so clearly our customer's 'worry factor' was highly developed. All I can say is that I don't think the RHS has reported one death from the ingestion of poisonous plant parts in simply years. OTOH, a friend of ours pulling out Giant Hogweed suffered horrible skin trouble for a long time but he didn't die. IOW, for more info, explore further for your personal need-to-know. -- Sacha (remove the weeds to email me) |
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There's an article on this topic in the current Gardener's World mag. It says (abbreviated) "the Horticultural Trades Association has worked in close ssociation with the National Poisons Unit at Guy's and St Thomas Hospital Trust and tha Royal Botanic gardens kew, to produce a list of recommended retail practice...it includes a list of 120 potentially harmful plants...based on medical case histories involving plants that have been identified as being a significant hazard. The plants are divided into 3 categories of hazard. the full list can be obtained from the HTA tel 0118 930 8940, or at www.gardenersworld.com." I enjoyed "Capsicum annuum,chilli pepper..eating the fruits causes sweating and a burning sensation". Notta lotta people know that... Janet |
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from Edwin Spector contains these words: Just how poisonous is an apple tree? Never try to eat a whole tree all at once. And forget-me-not, and grape hyacinth? No idea. Honeysuckle, Not terribly toxic, but enough berries will make you very sick. marigold, Pot marigold, not at all AFAIK peony, privet... Dunno about paeony, but rivet berries are not good for you at all. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:08:35 +0100, Sacha wrote:
I know someone who nearly died of septicaemia after pricking his finger on a rose thorn that had been sprayed by some nasty chemical. Rose thorns present a known hazard of this type. I doubt the nasty chemical had anything to do with the resultant bacterial infection. Barberry thorns are even worse, however. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada [change "atlantic" to "pacific" and "invalid" to "net" to reply by email] |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:16:01 +0100, Kay Easton wrote:
In article , Edwin Spector writes Just how poisonous is an apple tree? ISTR the pips contain minute amounts of cyanide ;-) Not enough to do any harm unless you were to eat them in *vast* amounts, but they are in the same family as bitter almonds and cherry laurel. So does clover, which we all have chewed in our childhood whilst lying on our backs making shapes out of clouds. -- Tim C. |
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