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Old 15-04-2004, 05:34 PM
Bob Hobden
 
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"David Hill" wrote in message ...
"..... Try contacting Environmental Health at your local council and ask
them if you have sited the heap correctly and if he has any grounds to
complain. If you get in first, you'll have some ammunition should they

back
you up. ...."

You could also get a council compost bin and ask if they have any written
instructions about what should and should not be put into it.


That was my first thought too, most Councils supply plastic compost bins
cheap of even free for household green stuff so phone them up and get one of
those and he will have no grounds for complaint. He couldn't see inside it
either. :-)

I can't imagine anyone taking the fool seriously anyway when just about
every Council in the country is trying to get householders to compost their
waste.
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Old 15-04-2004, 06:04 PM
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In article , sugarCandy
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The heap is at the bottom of the garden, and he has trees the other side of
the fence, no sitting area or patio. I think he only noticed it because he
was having a tidy up after the winter. I was so surprised I couldn't think
of all the sensible replies that come to mind now, like recycling,
environmentally friendly, no cooked food etc!
We've been here 2 and a half years, and besides telling me not to take in
parcels if asked to by the postman, they haven't really had much to say up
until now.

Does your council offer compost bins? - many councils do. It might be
worth getting one, so that you could then tell him your heap was OK as
it was in a compost bin provided by the council ;-)

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Old 15-04-2004, 07:33 PM
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"sugarCandy" wrote in message
news
Hi
I'm feeling a bit peeved after the bank holiday weekend. A neighbour of
mine
requested I dispose of a heap of animal waste that that would attract blue
bottles, rats and mice. When told it was a compost heap, he said it was
inappropriate to have in in the garden.
The heap was actually the cleanings out of my guinea pigs, with garden

waste
added. I had started saving it in October, when the weather was cooler,
adding it to my rather small amount of garden waste. The guinea pigs are
kept on pelleted sawdust that crumbles when it gets wet. The bag

recommends
disposing of it via a compost heap. They have hay and straw as litter. The
aim was to produce a heap that would rot down to compost over the winter

so
there was no danger of smell or nuisance. In fact the pigs are cleaned out
before there is any smell anyway, and the heap was only visible through a

6
inch gap in the fence. ( about 3ft square, enclosed by paving slabs, but
showing some straw on the top)
The compost could have done with a couple of more months, but there are no
visible 'poos', and the straw is black and showing white fungus 'roots',

so
I've started moving it. I mulched around some of the borders in the back
garden, and I want to get some into the front, but using it all up will

take
time. I'll probably bag the rest over the weekend, as I don't want any
trouble, but I really don't understand what the problem was. I hadn't

added
anything for over a month, so as to have a heap rotted through for around
June, and I don't know what he thought rats and mice would eat. The only
smell I noticed as i started moving it was that 'composty' sort of smell,
definately not noxious, and only noticable close up anyway.
Has anyone else had problems with compost heaps causing complaints? I was
really surprised, as I thought I had been responsible, and I was trying to
reduce the waste put out for the bin men by recycling. Problem is I

haven't
got anywhere else to site it, as it was situated between my shed and

garage,
so as to be out of sight of the main garden.

annie

Your neighbour has absolutely no right whatever to object to a properly

run compost bin

I have 7 of them

However I suggest you make a solid sided one complete with a lid by pulling
apart and reassembling pallets ....creosote the outside ....line with heavy
duty polythene ......stand on the square of paving slabs
cover contents with polythene / compost bags and a piece of old carpet plus
a wooden lid and tell your neighbour its none of his business

Its ecologically sound and majority of councils encourage compost making
plus shortly it will be mandatory


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Old 15-04-2004, 08:41 PM
Martin
 
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Jane Ransom wrote:
In article ,
sugarCandy writes
Has anyone else had problems with compost heaps causing complaints?
I was really surprised, as I thought I had been responsible, and I
was trying to reduce the waste put out for the bin men by recycling.
Problem is I haven't got anywhere else to site it, as it was
situated between my shed and garage, so as to be out of sight of the
main garden.

Don't know where you are, but here is a helpful composting contact:

Help line: 0845 0500 110
Email: hollyDOTtiffen@envDOTlancsccDOTgovDOTuk


Jane, just a small tip in return for the many you post here.....it's best to
disguise any email addresses you post to newsgroups (for example in the way
I have above). This is because there are "Spambots" which trawl newsgroups
automatically looking for valid addresses to send spam to. It is also
advisable to use a disguised email address for people to reply to. (I see
sugar candy is using what appears to be a valid address - this is very
likely to attract spam).

Best Regards

Martin
(Fellow citizen of Lancaster).







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Old 15-04-2004, 08:44 PM
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from "nambucca" contains these words:


Its ecologically sound and majority of councils encourage compost making
plus shortly it will be mandatory


That's rather ambiguous.
Shortly, or by 2010, it will be mandatory for councils to recycle a much
higher propertion of collected domestic green waste than most of them
currently do. It won't be mandatory for householders to have compost
heaps; millions of flat-dwellers could not, for example.

Janet.



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Old 16-04-2004, 01:36 PM
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In article , Janet Baraclough.
.. writes
It won't be mandatory for householders to have compost
heaps; millions of flat-dwellers could not, for example.

On the continent there are 'local' community composting sites for such
people. Apparently the scheme works really well.

We tried to set one up here, but were refused planning permission -
through some totally inexplicable political shenanigans
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Old 17-04-2004, 09:16 PM
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"sugarCandy" wrote in message
news
Hi
I'm feeling a bit peeved after the bank holiday weekend. A neighbour of
mine
requested I dispose of a heap of animal waste that that would attract blue
bottles, rats and mice. When told it was a compost heap, he said it was
inappropriate to have in in the garden.


Hi Annie

I had problems with a neighbour and discussed it here at the time. My
neighbour, who is one who would call the police, the council and for all I
know the United Nations.

She got nowhere so if you go by my experience.. you will probably end up
with him AT your door making demands but you may ignore him)

My neighbour no longer speaks to us but that is a huge advantage)

Ophelia
Scotland


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Old 17-04-2004, 09:16 PM
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"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message
...
The message
from "sugarCandy" contains these words:

Hi
I'm feeling a bit peeved after the bank holiday weekend. A neighbour of

mine
requested I dispose of a heap of animal waste that that would attract

blue
bottles, rats and mice. When told it was a compost heap, he said it was
inappropriate to have in in the garden.


Best to smile and say nothing, he'll realise the error of his
foolishness soon enough, or forget all about it.

The first time I met our elderly neighbour last spring, he said early
guests in his holiday house had complained of lice in the beds. This had
never happened before we moved in, and he assured me the source of the
infestation is "all that seaweed you keep spreading on the garden".


ROFL


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Old 17-04-2004, 09:17 PM
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The message
from Jane Ransom contains these words:

In article , Janet Baraclough.
. writes
It won't be mandatory for householders to have compost
heaps; millions of flat-dwellers could not, for example.

On the continent there are 'local' community composting sites for such
people. Apparently the scheme works really well.


There are several in rural Scotland too; but in the one I know
(outskirts of rural village) the users need transport to move their
green-refuse to the site.

We tried to set one up here, but were refused planning permission -
through some totally inexplicable political shenanigans


It's becoming a pressing issue here on Arran. The current landfill
site will be full within a year or two, the (mainland) county council
also has to find a way to recycle more green refuse, AND, emissions from
the ancient sewage systems have to be brought up to European
water-quality standards asap. So, what we really need, and desperately
want, is an island greencomposting site, and an ecological sewage
disposal system (installed and working perfectly on private adjacent
island). What do we get from the mainland planners and water authority?
A hopelessly inappropriate "modern" sewage design identical to the one
which has already been installed on two other west-coasts sites and
cause major havoc by flooding villages with raw pooh; followed by an
amended, even more crazed plan to take all the island's sewage and all
rubbish (unsorted)to the mainland, at huge expense, with shit/rubbish
trucks sharing the ferry with tourists (who are the island's major
income).

You couldn't make it up :-(

Janet.




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Old 17-04-2004, 09:27 PM
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:25:07 GMT, "sugarCandy"
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there was no danger of smell or nuisance. In fact the pigs are cleaned out
before there is any smell anyway, and the heap was only visible through a 6
inch gap in the fence. ( about 3ft square, enclosed by paving slabs, but
showing some straw on the top)


Close the gap and ignore the idiot.

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In article ,
Janet Baraclough.. wrote:

You couldn't make it up :-(


Sewage Galore?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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On Friday 16 April 2004 20:04, in , Nick
Maclaren ) wrote:

Sewage Galore?


.... only if the ferry sinks and the trucks are washed up on the coast.

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Old 17-04-2004, 09:51 PM
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Has anyone else had problems with compost heaps causing complaints? I was
really surprised, as I thought I had been responsible, and I was trying to
reduce the waste put out for the bin men by recycling. Problem is I haven't
got anywhere else to site it, as it was situated between my shed and garage,
so as to be out of sight of the main garden.


You were doing the correct and sensible thing, and your neighbour
doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Get a scythe and - - oh, as you were!

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The heap is at the bottom of the garden, and he has trees the other side of
the fence, no sitting area or patio. I think he only noticed it because he
was having a tidy up after the winter. I was so surprised I couldn't think
of all the sensible replies that come to mind now, like recycling,
environmentally friendly, no cooked food etc!
We've been here 2 and a half years, and besides telling me not to take in
parcels if asked to by the postman, they haven't really had much to say up
until now.


Continue as usual. If you can get a sensible exchange going with him,
then that's always the best way, but if you can't, ignore him.

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/snip/
You could try explaining yourself to your neighbour, but I get the
impression that he is one of those who always knows best. I'd ignore
him. If he complains to the council, I have a good idea they will be on
your side.

I had intended to leave it longer to rot, but as he'd complained i thought
I'd show I was trying to move it.


Don't! if he gets the idea you'll bend to his will when he makes
unreasonable demands he'll have you running on the spot.

You might go about the garden muttering (stage whisper) "Leylandii,
leylandii!"

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