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Old 01-07-2004, 06:17 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
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The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would come up
against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as very
attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to offer
you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on with
thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let it
rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.
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Old 01-07-2004, 07:12 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
"JK" wrote in message ...

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The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

Just a quick environmentalist point. I'm all for as much greenery as
possible in built-up areas, but I couldn't in principle cheer for a
roof-top lawn in an area where the normal rainfall wasn't enough to
sustain it (rule of thumb guesstimate subject to correction from an
expert: anywhere east of the highland line?). We are hammering our
water-tables already, with bad consequences making themselves apparent
all over the country: I really don't think we can justify adding to
the demand just for an occasional bit of fun. So, if your project will
need tap-water, I have very sadly to vote against it; but if it will
be self-sustaining, I may even come and help with the hard work!

Mike.
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Old 01-07-2004, 07:12 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
"JK" wrote in message ...

[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

Just a quick environmentalist point. I'm all for as much greenery as
possible in built-up areas, but I couldn't in principle cheer for a
roof-top lawn in an area where the normal rainfall wasn't enough to
sustain it (rule of thumb guesstimate subject to correction from an
expert: anywhere east of the highland line?). We are hammering our
water-tables already, with bad consequences making themselves apparent
all over the country: I really don't think we can justify adding to
the demand just for an occasional bit of fun. So, if your project will
need tap-water, I have very sadly to vote against it; but if it will
be self-sustaining, I may even come and help with the hard work!

Mike.
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Old 01-07-2004, 07:13 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
quite as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would
come up against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as
very attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to
offer you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on
with thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let
it rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.
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Old 01-07-2004, 07:16 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would come up
against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as very
attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to offer
you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on with
thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let it
rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.


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Old 01-07-2004, 07:16 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would come up
against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as very
attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to offer
you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on with
thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let it
rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.
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Old 01-07-2004, 08:14 AM
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
"JK" wrote in message ...

[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

Just a quick environmentalist point. I'm all for as much greenery as
possible in built-up areas, but I couldn't in principle cheer for a
roof-top lawn in an area where the normal rainfall wasn't enough to
sustain it (rule of thumb guesstimate subject to correction from an
expert: anywhere east of the highland line?). We are hammering our
water-tables already, with bad consequences making themselves apparent
all over the country: I really don't think we can justify adding to
the demand just for an occasional bit of fun. So, if your project will
need tap-water, I have very sadly to vote against it; but if it will
be self-sustaining, I may even come and help with the hard work!

Mike.
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
"JK" wrote in message ...

[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

Just a quick environmentalist point. I'm all for as much greenery as
possible in built-up areas, but I couldn't in principle cheer for a
roof-top lawn in an area where the normal rainfall wasn't enough to
sustain it (rule of thumb guesstimate subject to correction from an
expert: anywhere east of the highland line?). We are hammering our
water-tables already, with bad consequences making themselves apparent
all over the country: I really don't think we can justify adding to
the demand just for an occasional bit of fun. So, if your project will
need tap-water, I have very sadly to vote against it; but if it will
be self-sustaining, I may even come and help with the hard work!

Mike.
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
quite as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would
come up against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as
very attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to
offer you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on
with thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let
it rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would come up
against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as very
attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to offer
you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on with
thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let it
rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.


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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message ...
[...]
The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would come up
against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as very
attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to offer
you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on with
thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let it
rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.
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"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message

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The main issue you are likely to face is the structural strength needed

to
support the soil and turf.

[...]

I've just posted a warning note from a 'green' point of view. But it
occurred to me on the way to the loo that another solution might be to
cultivate an area of _moss_. This would be light in weight and have a
very low nutritional requirement; and would never need mowing (but
some weeding would be needed every now and then); it would rarely be
as green as grass, and by no means as hard-wearing, and would come up
against my water-consumption objection, but I can see it as very
attractive, and a zillion gardeners would leap at the chance to offer
you sacks of the raw material. You could stick spots of it on with
thin PVA glue mixed with a little compost and maybe milk, and let it
rip, just as you would if trying to age a garden rock in a hurry.

Can I come and try, please?

Mike.


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same electrons constantly! How many times did you post that?

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[...the same thing over and over again...]

Just because you are an environmentalist doesnt mean you have to reuse the
same electrons constantly! How many times did you post that?


I'm awfully sorry! It's a problem with Google Groups: sometimes it
gives a failure message which isn't true, but you have to wait many
hours to find out that it was a lie. I promise to change to a proper
client-based newsreader instead -- but I've been making this promise
on and off for years.

Mike.
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