On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a peach tree
would be a bit big.

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.

What about some of the small citrus trees you can buy?
Fresh lemons would be very nice in the kitchen.

I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips? Has anyone tried these small
citrus trees? What varieties should I look at?

Thanks
Mark

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.

Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets. I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.
But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 30 Jul 2004 20:16:24 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.

Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?

*blush*... I mean 11 feet.

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.

I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.

During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.

I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.

No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.

Thanks
Mark

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

*blush*... I mean 11 feet.

That shows that you are human - on Usenet, only trolls never make
mistakes.

I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.

Yes. But I can't speak from any great experience, but signs are good
so far.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.

During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).

Grrk. 30 isn't a problem, 40 can cause trouble for some plants, and
50 is bad news for anything except dry terrain tropicals.

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)

Peaches wouldn't like that - they prefer winter chill. You should
concentrate on subtropicals - my experience is that the dry terrain
ones are usually fairly easy, but the humid area ones can be very
tricky.

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.

Go for plants that thrive in savanna-like climates, and they will
almost certainly do best. That is quite a choice.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.

I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?

Pretty easy. They get attacked by red spider mite and mealybug (what
doesn't), but spraying with soft soap or detergent/meths keeps that
under control. It might be a trifle hot for it in summer, but most
citrus are pretty heat-resistant if there is still some water at
their roots. I.e. you will need a decent-sized pot. And, like most
other citrus, their foliage is attractive.

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.

No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.

Good. See above about the pot. They can't stand waterlogging, either,
but don't like drying out in hot conditions. Plants that CAN take
that include Strelitzia (bird of paradise), but that is not edible.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

*blush*... I mean 11 feet.

That shows that you are human - on Usenet, only trolls never make
mistakes.

I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.

Yes. But I can't speak from any great experience, but signs are good
so far.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.

During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).

Grrk. 30 isn't a problem, 40 can cause trouble for some plants, and
50 is bad news for anything except dry terrain tropicals.

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)

Peaches wouldn't like that - they prefer winter chill. You should
concentrate on subtropicals - my experience is that the dry terrain
ones are usually fairly easy, but the humid area ones can be very
tricky.

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.

Go for plants that thrive in savanna-like climates, and they will
almost certainly do best. That is quite a choice.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.

I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?

Pretty easy. They get attacked by red spider mite and mealybug (what
doesn't), but spraying with soft soap or detergent/meths keeps that
under control. It might be a trifle hot for it in summer, but most
citrus are pretty heat-resistant if there is still some water at
their roots. I.e. you will need a decent-sized pot. And, like most
other citrus, their foliage is attractive.

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.

No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.

Good. See above about the pot. They can't stand waterlogging, either,
but don't like drying out in hot conditions. Plants that CAN take
that include Strelitzia (bird of paradise), but that is not edible.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 30 Jul 2004 20:16:24 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Blewett wrote:

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space. Apart from whether it would be a good
environment for peaches, anything grown is going to have direct
sunlight on one side only.. thinking about it probably not best for a
tree.. perhaps something less tree/bush like would be better.. a vine
perhaps, which could be trained around the window.. and still leave
space for the tomato's in the window sill.

Do you REALLY mean that the room is eleven inches high?

*blush*... I mean 11 feet.

If you mean feet, then you have a fair amount of space. I would NOT
recommend a peach, as they are tricky. My Feijoa has flowered for
the first time, and I am overjoyed to find that the (very decorative
and edible) flowers are SWEET! As it also has attractive leaves,
and is drought resistant, you might like to try it.

I must admit I've never heard of Feijoa. Doing a quick search
(http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/feijoa.html) seems kind of interesting.

But the real question is how hot you keep that room, how much
ventilation it gets and how much sun it gets.

During the summer its a very hot room.. I haven't tracked the temp..
but currently it 28c (21:50 Fri eve).. and thats with the sash windows
open most of today (normally they are fully open when I home, and
closed when I'm not).

During winter it's a more sensible temperature... but I've never
needed to turn the central heating on in the room.. it's normally 15c+
(maybe a bit less during the night)

Sunwise its facing almost exactly south.. there's some trees/bushes
outside to the west, so there's less direct sunlight in the eveing.

I have a kaffir lime
(again from seed, bought as a fruit in Leicester Square, and the
leaves are used in Thai cooking), and can strongly recommend it.

I've just started trying to cook Thai/Malay dishes.. how easy are they
to graw?

But citrus don't like overheated or dark conditions.

No chance of dark conditions!.. overheated possibly.

Thanks
Mark

"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large
south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad
leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food
and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a
part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good
choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a
peach tree
would be a bit big.

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.

It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))

Franz

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large
south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad
leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food
and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a
part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good
choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a
peach tree
would be a bit big.

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.

It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))

I'm feeling really embarrassed now ) .. the only excuse I can offer
is that as a software engineer I use " key rather more often than the
' key... so when the brain thinks quotes.. the fingers follow (and
sometimes not as the case maybe!)

Regards
Mark

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:29 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote:


"Mark Blewett" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 10:31:12 +0100, bigboard
wrote:

Mark Blewett wrote:

I'm a relatively newcomer to gardening.. and looking for some
ideas/thoughts for someone who has no garden.. just 2 very large
south
facing windows.

Over the last couple of years, I've grown in pots: various herbs,
tomato's, chillies and even had a go at some salad
leaves/radishes
with mix success. As you may well already guessed.. I like food
and
cooking and hence prefer to grow something that is edible!

Onto the question... in uk.food+drink.misc there was a
part-thread
about peaches (and patio variaties).. which got me thinking (ok
hoping).. could these grow indoors? If not what would be a good
choice
fruit for growing indoors in a pot?

Thanks for any ideas and thoughts would really be appreciated.

Regards
Mark
(An enthusiastic newbee!)


I don't know how big your growing area is, but I'd have thought a
peach tree
would be a bit big.

What sort of size are the smaller (dwarf/patio) varities? BTW the
windows about 8" square and the room is approx 11" high... a
reasonable sized space.

It sounds slightly larger than Queen Mary's doll's house. ( Or was it
Queen Victoria's?) {:-))

I'm feeling really embarrassed now ) .. the only excuse I can offer
is that as a software engineer I use " key rather more often than the
' key... so when the brain thinks quotes.. the fingers follow (and
sometimes not as the case maybe!)

Regards
Mark

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?

Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?

Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)

How long should I forget about them?

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?

Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)

How long should I forget about them?

That depends on whether they grow or not! If they don't grow, you may
safely forget them for years, decades even.

Even if they do grow. it's perfectly OK to forget completely where
they've come from and treat them as a totally unexpected new plant in
need of care ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

In message , Kay
writes
How long should I forget about them?

Until just after you can't remember them

--
regards andyw

In message , Kay
writes
How long should I forget about them?

Until just after you can't remember them

--
regards andyw

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:30:29 +0100, Kay
wrote:

In article , Mark Blewett
writes
I did try to germinate a few seeds last year (from a shop bought
lemon), without success.. any tips?

Just drop pips into any pots you have around and forget about them -
sooner or later one of them will germinate. Watched pips never grow ;-)

How long should I forget about them?

That depends on whether they grow or not! If they don't grow, you may
safely forget them for years, decades even.

Even if they do grow. it's perfectly OK to forget completely where
they've come from and treat them as a totally unexpected new plant in
need of care ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"