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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... In article , Rod wrote: On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:23:17 +0100, Victoria Clare wrote: I'm intrigued now. Why is this one handed chainsaw so much more dangerous than an ordinary one? Dunno really, except if you're waving the thing about with one hand it's perhaps more likely that various bits of your anatomy could get in the way. Also with one hand you don't have the same degree of control if for example you catch something with the tip of the guide bar causing it to kick back. Quite. And the various bits don't just include minor and optional ones, but whole legs. How long is you have to reach the operating table after severing a femoral artery? 5 minutes or thereabouts, isn't it? Actually, there are other issues. Using any power tool single-handed is a LOT more tiring than using it double-handed, because you have to hold it harder (think leverage). And the vibration of a power tool held hard can cause you to weaken and lose your grip - often with little warning. I gave up using a hedge trimmer after that happened once too often. None of us here is trained to use them but from time to time we work with contractors who are using them. They only use them up trees, they are not supposed to use them on the ground. Quite apart from the competence angle, the physical demands are significant, you should see the muscles on the arms of these guys. Which reminds me of the FAQ: I am not strong enough to use a bowsaw any longer; what type of chainsaw should I buy? I have an electric reciprocating saw with a whole range of blades with varying tooth size. It is dead easy to use, and is little, if any, more dangerous than a handsaw. It handles branches up to 2" diameter quite comfortably. Franz |
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http://www.abbeygardensales.co.uk STIGA SPR 350
http://www.stihl.co.uk/html/default_...tegory=product STIHL MS 200 T Top handled chainsaws, will not be sold to anyone without proper training and evidence of such. That doesn't stop you from buying one at a dispersal sale.....he he Anthony "Nigel M" wrote in message ... Some men just came to trim a tree below an overhead power cable. They had what looked like an electric carving knife, a one handed chainsaw. Apparently these are not available to the general public. I have no desire to end up "one handed", but it looks much safer than trying to use a standard chainsaw for the same task. Does anyone know where they can be bought? -- Nigel Mercier |
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On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 13:57:08 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
wrote: I used to have a small, light chain saw. The chain had a habit of coming off in use. When the damn thing came flying past my ear and nicked a piece off it, I decided that it was perhaps not a good thing to go on using it, so I threw it away. That isn't really an issue with modern saws. They all have chain catchers - and they work, no excitement any more when the chain comes off. It rarely happens anyway if the chain is correctly tensioned. Still worth keeping all parts of yourself clear of the back of the saw while using it. ================================================= Rod Weed my email address to reply. http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
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"Anthony" wrote in message ... http://www.abbeygardensales.co.uk STIGA SPR 350 http://www.stihl.co.uk/html/default_...tegory=product STIHL MS 200 T Top handled chainsaws, will not be sold to anyone without proper training and evidence of such. That doesn't stop you from buying one at a dispersal sale.....he he There is a lot of crap talked about not only chainsaws, but also other dangerous machinery. Training is desirable, but who trained the first person to use one? Who trains the first person to use a new model/type? Who trains the trainers? I hired a chainsaw a few years ago, and was asked "do you know how to use one?" and that was it. Suppliers will sell you anything, they may say " make sure you get some training" or they may say "is the person who's going to use it trained?" And of course you will reply "yes", and then he'll sell you the saw. After all, he's in the business of selling machinery, he's not going to turn you away. Just be careful, read the manual, use commonsense and the recommended protective clothing, and you'll be OK. And if the worst comes to the worst, remember, you've got to die of something. ;-)) Steve |
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"Nigel M" wrote in message
... Some men just came to trim a tree below an overhead power cable. They had what looked like an electric carving knife, a one handed chainsaw. Apparently these are not available to the general public. I have no desire to end up "one handed", but it looks much safer than trying to use a standard chainsaw for the same task. Does anyone know where they can be bought? These kind of things? http://www.abbeygardensales.co.uk/su...s-0000745.aspx Note the requirement for production of a certificate at the top of the page, though. This requirement doesn't appear on any other of their chainsaw pages..... -- Richard Sampson mail me at richard at olifant d-ot co do-t uk |
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:52:14 +0100, "shazzbat"
wrote: There is a lot of crap talked about not only chainsaws, but also other dangerous machinery. Training is desirable, but who trained the first person to use one? Who trains the first person to use a new model/type? Who trains the trainers? I hired a chainsaw a few years ago, and was asked "do you know how to use one?" and that was it. Suppliers will sell you anything, they may say " make sure you get some training" or they may say "is the person who's going to use it trained?" And of course you will reply "yes", and then he'll sell you the saw. After all, he's in the business of selling machinery, he's not going to turn you away. Just be careful, read the manual, use commonsense and the recommended protective clothing, and you'll be OK. I agree with a lot of that, you're obviously intelligent and fairly machine/risk savvy - you taught yourself. Same here, same for my mate Phil who works with me. Same for many others. *But* what do you do with the rest - they need to use these things but they aren't safe out without their mothers. You have to get 'em trained for your own and everbody elses safety as well as theirs. As for the dealers, you're probably at least partly right - our local dealers who know us very well don't ask for our NPTC certificates but I don't know what they'd do about a stranger walking into their showroom. Should be seeing their rep next week, I'll try and remember to ask him. 'Who trains the trainers?' Good question. Neither myself or Phil are qualified trainers or assessors but I don't know anyone who could teach or assess us adequately on say for example Compact Tractors, we'd have to train 'em ourselves first. ================================================= Rod Weed my email address to reply. http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html |
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In article ,
Rod wrote: *But* what do you do with the rest - they need to use these things but they aren't safe out without their mothers. You have to get 'em trained for your own and everbody elses safety as well as theirs. Where DID you get the idea that their mothers are any better? Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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