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Old 21-11-2004, 07:47 PM
Mike Lyle
 
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Brian X wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:50:12 -0000, "Brian X"
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Am I naive but what would happen to peelings should you zap them

in
micro-wave for 20 secs or so ?


They would get warm.

--
Martin


Ho, ho Martin you are a wag.

Apart from getting warm in the microwave would it detract from

being
compost material ?


No, it wouldn't. But if they're well enough buried there's no need to
use electricity on them. And if it's a slow cool heap and they do
grow, it doesn't matter.

Mike.


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Old 21-11-2004, 08:46 PM
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In article , June Hughes
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Ah! We had a discussion here around 7 years ago about just that! It was a very
long thread, including a discussion about ladies standing up to irrigate the
compost heap. I can't remember whether or not anyone said anything about the
smell that may or may not result after a few days.


A long time ago I used to live in a house with no indoor toilet. Since
the only electricity was a 2amp lighting circuit and the fireplaces were
tiny, it was not easy to keep warm, there was no way I was going to go
outside in the middle of the night.

So I used to tip the bucket into a hole not far from the back door,
along with tea leaves and veg peelings. Never had a problem with smell,
and after about a year I had rich crumbly black compost studded with
tiny new potatoes

So basically, no, there's no need to worry about any smell.
--
Kay
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Old 21-11-2004, 09:09 PM
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Thanks for your advice. I feel a bit happier now. Tonight I shall put my
peelings in a compost bin with a lighter heart.
Spider


Best not to put meat in a compost heap.

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Old 21-11-2004, 09:12 PM
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In message , Martin
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:16:18 +0000, June Hughes
wrote:

In message , bnd777
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"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In message , Cerumen
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"June Hughes" wrote in message
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In message , Cerumen
Your heap is not getting hot enough, a really well made heap will heat
up
enough to kill all spouting peel but that heat is not easy to get if
you
only add small amounts of material at a time.

Didn't there used to be some stuff called 'Garotta', which you mixed
with water and poured over the compost heap to assist rotting?

There did indeed but chicken, or other manure in straw added to the pile
works just as well, or of course the available to all for free golden
liquid that we normally just flush away.

Ah! We had a discussion here around 7 years ago about just that! It
was a very long thread, including a discussion about ladies standing up
to irrigate the compost heap. I can't remember whether or not anyone
said anything about the smell that may or may not result after a few
days.
--
June Hughes


Rubbish Jane ........theres no smell at all from a "night watered " compost
heap

I am not Jane, I am June. I didn't say a smell would ensue, I said' I
can't remember whether or not anyone said anything about the smell that
may or may not result after a few days'. That is not the same thing at
all.


bnd777 not Tarzan, if you not Jane.

G Merci
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June Hughes
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Old 21-11-2004, 09:13 PM
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In message , Kay
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In article , June Hughes
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Ah! We had a discussion here around 7 years ago about just that! It
was a very
long thread, including a discussion about ladies standing up to irrigate the
compost heap. I can't remember whether or not anyone said anything about the
smell that may or may not result after a few days.


A long time ago I used to live in a house with no indoor toilet. Since
the only electricity was a 2amp lighting circuit and the fireplaces were
tiny, it was not easy to keep warm, there was no way I was going to go
outside in the middle of the night.

So I used to tip the bucket into a hole not far from the back door,
along with tea leaves and veg peelings. Never had a problem with smell,
and after about a year I had rich crumbly black compost studded with
tiny new potatoes

So basically, no, there's no need to worry about any smell.

I take it we shall all be out in our gardens at around 11.30pm then? No
torches, please
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June Hughes


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Old 21-11-2004, 09:50 PM
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Maybe its because i pile in horse manure and bucket loads of night

water !!!

Can AIDS be transferred via urine?

Franz


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Old 21-11-2004, 11:25 PM
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"Mike Lyle" wrote in message
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Brian X wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:50:12 -0000, "Brian X"
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Am I naive but what would happen to peelings should you zap them

in
micro-wave for 20 secs or so ?

They would get warm.

--
Martin


Ho, ho Martin you are a wag.

Apart from getting warm in the microwave would it detract from

being
compost material ?


No, it wouldn't. But if they're well enough buried there's no need to
use electricity on them. And if it's a slow cool heap and they do
grow, it doesn't matter.

Mike.


If they were in my compost heap at present they would be roasting nicely !!!



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Old 22-11-2004, 09:01 AM
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June Hughes wrote in message ...

Didn't there used to be some stuff called 'Garotta', which you mixed
with water and poured over the compost heap to assist rotting?


There did indeed but chicken, or other manure in straw added to the pile
works just as well, or of course the available to all for free golden
liquid that we normally just flush away.

Ah! We had a discussion here around 7 years ago about just that! It
was a very long thread, including a discussion about ladies standing up
to irrigate the compost heap. I can't remember whether or not anyone
said anything about the smell that may or may not result after a few
days.


There was an article by Monty Don in Sunday's Observer newspaper about
composting . He made the point that there must be a balance between
high nitrogen additions such as grass clippings and high carbon
content additions such as straw/woody stems and paper/cardboard.
I wonder what will be the effect of regular addition of urine. This
supplies nitrogen in abundance and if the compost heap has a
preponderance of grass clippings and leaves as does mine then it might
have a bad effect. Anyone have any advice on frequency of "night
watering"?
Regards
Seb
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Franz Heymann wrote:

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Maybe its because i pile in horse manure and bucket loads of night

water !!!

Can AIDS be transferred via urine?


No, or certainly not via compost. It can be transferred only by
direct transfer of certain bodily fluids (NOT usually including
urine) into the body or only mucous membranes.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 22-11-2004, 10:23 AM
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.. Anyone have any advice on frequency of "night
watering"?


Rather than waste the good stuff on the compost heap, I collect mine
for *day watering* in a watering can in the garege. I apply it
liberally, diluted about 5 times, directly to the garden.

If everybody engaged in this (organically approved?) practice, would
there be a serious unbalanced over-fertilising of the soil, with a
consequent run-off of nitrates exactly as if inorganic nitrate
fertilser had been used?

Comments from the organic lobby would be welcomed.
Statements like " you are only returning to the soil what you took
from it" will go straight to the waste bin, because my food and drink
comes from all over the world and the resulting urine is deposited on
a very small garden.

Franz




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Franz Heymann wrote:
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. Anyone have any advice on frequency of "night
watering"?


Rather than waste the good stuff on the compost heap, I collect

mine
for *day watering* in a watering can in the garege. I apply it
liberally, diluted about 5 times, directly to the garden.

If everybody engaged in this (organically approved?) practice,

would
there be a serious unbalanced over-fertilising of the soil, with a
consequent run-off of nitrates exactly as if inorganic nitrate
fertilser had been used?

Comments from the organic lobby would be welcomed.
Statements like " you are only returning to the soil what you took
from it" will go straight to the waste bin, because my food and

drink
comes from all over the world and the resulting urine is deposited

on
a very small garden.

Partial (in both senses) lobby organist speaks: if you overdo it,
you'll kill plants, as you know. It's hardly a balanced liquid feed!
5:1 dilution sounds about right, I suppose, though I don't really
know; I'm sure you stop if any plant shows signs of damage. But I'd
save it for the compost myself.

Mike.


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Old 22-11-2004, 11:57 AM
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"Martin" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:23:41 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann"
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"Seb Flyte" wrote in message
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. Anyone have any advice on frequency of "night
watering"?


Rather than waste the good stuff on the compost heap, I collect

mine
for *day watering* in a watering can in the garege. I apply it
liberally, diluted about 5 times, directly to the garden.


It's more fun to dilute it by drinking five pints of Blacksheep each
day.


If everybody engaged in this (organically approved?) practice,

would
there be a serious unbalanced over-fertilising of the soil, with a
consequent run-off of nitrates exactly as if inorganic nitrate
fertilser had been used?

Comments from the organic lobby would be welcomed.
Statements like " you are only returning to the soil what you took
from it" will go straight to the waste bin, because my food and

drink
comes from all over the world and the resulting urine is deposited

on
a very small garden.


Some may think that you are taking the P, again.


Sorry if I worded my question infelicitly. I actually do wonder if
watering the garden with urine might lead to an overapplication of
nitrogen.

Franz


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Old 28-11-2004, 07:08 AM
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On 11/20/04 10:02 AM, in article ,
"Spider" wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Although I have read composting advice which advocates using 'any material
that was once organic', I always have problems when composting potato
peelings. When I subsequently check on my heap or bins, the potato peel has
sprouted. Breaking off these sprouts does not seem to help - more just take
their place!
I don't have any other problems when composting, and usually produce 'good
stuff' from my various bins. A neighbour of mine, when she heard, said she
would *never* put potato peelings on her heap, so I also stopped.

Nevertheless, this seems an awful waste to me. I want to try and compost
them. Am I doing something wrong? I would really be grateful for any
advice or, indeed, anecdotal tales of others' experiences.

Thanks in anticipation.
Spider


Yes, peeling is a waste. So why peel? After peeling look at the bulk
that you (we) are throwing away. Weigh the peels...already paid for. In
addition most of the nutrients are...are you ready?...in the peel.
I like mashed potatoes also...but I don't peel...anymore!
Bill

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